DieselDaisy Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 1 hour ago, PappyTron said: I'm embarrassed that Daisy, a cricket fan, has singularly failed to name his All-Time Test 11. Shameful. Hutton Hobbes Root Compton Breareley (c) Botham Flintoff Alan Knott (w) Willis Truman Jim Laker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 26 minutes ago, Len B'stard said: Your relentless Oxfordian powers of reason were too much for him clearly! These bloody northerners are all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 16 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Hutton Hobbes Root Compton Breareley (c) Botham Flintoff Alan Knott (w) Willis Truman Jim Laker Well, I did ask for a World Eleven, if you recall, but if this is your England eleven... Root over Barrington or Sutcliffe? Mike Brearley? No Sydney Barnes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 World eleven. Eat it. Brearley for his man-management and for getting the best out of Both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 17 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: World eleven. Eat it. Brearley for his man-management and for getting the best out of Both. That is your all-time World Eleven? If you didn't want to do a list you should have just said so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 46 minutes ago, PappyTron said: That is your all-time World Eleven? If you didn't want to do a list you should have just said so. I'm taking the piss! Jesus! Considering we were having a lengthy discussion upon my alleged provincialism in regards to cricket, I thought it would be amusing to provide you with a list of stalwart Englishmen as a 'world eleven' including your favourite two all-rounders, Fred and Ian - humour lost in translation. I believe I already provided you with a tentative eleven, albeit one a bit Windies heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I saw a docu Dies' reccomended me and that program is my only reference point to these two names but i liked those convicts Thompson and Lillie, evil bastards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 27 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I'm taking the piss! Jesus! Considering we were having a lengthy discussion upon my alleged provincialism in regards to cricket, I thought it would be amusing to provide you with a list of stalwart Englishmen as a 'world eleven' including your favourite two all-rounders, Fred and Ian - humour lost in translation. I believe I already provided you with a tentative eleven, albeit one a bit Windies heavy. I'm aware that you are taking the piss, hence me saying that if you didn't want to provide a serious one then you should have said so (you said that you were going to revisit your list at a later date after giving it more thought, but you never did, instead deciding to leave me cock in hand). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 38 minutes ago, PappyTron said: I'm aware that you are taking the piss, hence me saying that if you didn't want to provide a serious one then you should have said so (you said that you were going to revisit your list at a later date after giving it more thought, but you never did, instead deciding to leave me cock in hand). As I said, I gave you a tentative one - you want my twelfth man also? I've wasted a lot of time explaining to you the merits of Fred Flintoff and Botham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: As I said, I gave you a tentative one - you want my twelfth man also? I've wasted a lot of time explaining to you the merits of Fred Flintoff and Botham. Do I need to waste my time to explain to you what the word "tentative" means and why it doesn't really help very much when I'm seeking your final opinion on something. If you either don't want to give your opinion on what your All-Time Eleven would be, or are not knowledgeable enough to proffer an insightful opinion, then simply say so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 If I am selecting a world eleven it has to be perfect. It should have a left and right hand opening, and a mix between a fast scorer and a stubborn run accumulator. It has to have 'English' swing and 'Aussie' pace, but enough spin to be able to handle Asian conditions. There are further considerations such as, whether or not to go for a traditional part-timer wicketkeeper, or a modern specialist bating wicketkeeper. This is not an easy undertaking. You should feel blessed that I did not go the lazy option and had Sir Viv opening up with the Don and chucked Warne and Botham in there up the order in some inconsequential sequencing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 You make lists slower than Boycott made runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 what in the actual fridge magnet is wrong with England??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 South Africa are smashing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 What are they doing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Thank feck for that I thought they were gonna balls that up in the end, they were trying their hardest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) I've watched the majority of this tournament including the women, which I'm watching now as I speak (WI V NZ). Jason Roy!! England delivered, Morgan's golden duck aside, something rare in sport: a flawless performance. Really improved as the competition has developed, Stokes and Jordan at the death; Willey the anchor of the team (I feel); runs throughout in Roy, Butler Root, Stokes, Ali. I'm hoping the Windies knock India out and we have a rerun of England v WI. (I'm quite anti-India because of the BCCI. On 16/03/2016 at 1:10 AM, PappyTron said: You make lists slower than Boycott made runs. Hayden Gavaskar Bradman G. Chappell Clive Lloyd (c) Sobers Gilchrist (w) Warne Lillee/Laker Holding Akram 12th man: Keith Miller Coach: Frank Worrell Lillee on a quick, Laker on a spinning wicket. Hayden can attack while Sunny holds down the innings; I feel this would have been a devastating opening partnership. Greg Chappell (as did Gavaskar) took on the greatest quartet of fast bowling so he nudges out Lara and Tendulkar in that middle order. I simply have to have Lloyd as captain over Waugh and Ponting (who possess better win ratios), big avuncular figure, the hat and gigantic bat - love his style. I went for Akram as the greatest exponent of Pakistani swing (although it was tempting to play another all-rounder and opt for Khan) and Holding for West Indies' pace. Holding and Lillee would have been devastating. Warne, Sobers, Gilchrist and Bradman are self-explanatory. The biggest omission is Sir Viv (If this was an OD side, I would definitely switch the Don with Richards). If there are any injuries to the top five or you decide to reduce the bowling, Viv gets in. I just could not sacrifice Bradman because of 99,94 and I wanted Chappell and Lloyd in there. Viv could of course open but his preferred position was at 3 or 4. Also wish I got Hutton in the opening partnership but I opted for the lefty. Edited March 31, 2016 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Game over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Job done: got Gayle cheaply. India's quicks are on top form, Bumrah and Nehra. Excellent tactics from Dhoni having slips and attacking. PS Windies comeback. Crowd sick as chips. Edited March 31, 2016 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 Simmons broke the heart of the whole of India. What a comeback. WI V England? Two superb teams. I cannot predict that one; should be a great game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) So, we have: PAPPY'S TEAM: Jack Hobbs Len Hutton Don Bradman Wally Hammond Garry Sobers Kumar Sangakkara Wasim Akram Imram Khan Malcolm Marshall Sydney Barnes Murali VS DAISY'S TEAM: Hayden Gavaskar Bradman G. Chappell Clive Lloyd (c) Sobers Gilchrist (w) Warne Lillee/Laker Holding Akram Edited March 31, 2016 by PappyTron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) It is nice to see Kumar on your list. He played in about two county matches for Durham about two seasons ago to tune up for an England test. He didn't get any good knocks but it was certainly an experience seeing him walk out there. 0:40 onward for some comical attempts at stumping, https://youtu.be/01XFViQD0qM?t=40 Edited March 31, 2016 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 12 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: It is nice to see Kumar on your list. He played in about two county matches for Durham about two seasons ago to tune up for an England test. He didn't get any good knocks but it was certainly an experience seeing him walk out there. 0:40 onward for some comical attempts at stumping, https://youtu.be/01XFViQD0qM?t=40 I was torn whether to go for a pure keeper such as Knott or Boucher, or whether to go for a batting keeper such as Gilchrist or Flower. In the end I went the whole hog and went with a batsman would could keep rather than a keeper who could bat. Kumar's batting was just too good to turn down, and with my team batting down to 9 we can spare a missed stumping here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 There were a few voices appearing against the Gilchrist wicketkeeper-batsman role when Bairstow fluffed some chances v. South Africa last winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 9 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: There were a few voices appearing against the Gilchrist wicketkeeper-batsman role when Bairstow fluffed some chances v. South Africa last winter. Well, if Bairstow could bat like Gilchrist we'd all be very happy, but as he can't he needs to be much better with the gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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