Why do we want another album, anyway?

[Rovim]

Axl could sample that Steven quote on BTM, "we were bad boys" w-w-we were bad boyz!

Oh mmm-mmm-my god!

[wasted]

Izzy felt d-d-dictated to and q-quit.

Izzy felt d-d-dictated to and q-quit.

[Val22]

I would be curious how a new cd would sound? What would Axl write about? Would the music be more pop or heavy rock?

We've seen how much GNR have changed their sound with each new cd, so it would be very interesting to see how Axl's emotions would sound now that he's older. What matters most to him now?

When he was younger, Axl did a lot of ranting about people or things that bothered him. Would he still feel that way about some people or things now?

I think we would see a more calmer Axl and his writing would show that, but at the same time, I think he could still write amazing rock songs.

[wasted]

I so wonder what Axl would write about as he gets older because its generally about his personal experiences. But quite a few songs were Izzy lyrics.

That's why I feel good about CD II being older material. You know he was in the zone.

I guess he could go through his themes of out Ta get me, love songs, political lyrics, social issues.

I mean Azzof, Dr Pepper, the Activision lawsuit, rent a cops everywhere are all potential inspirations.

We know Oklahoma/Berlin is about Erin's lawyers trying destroy him etch.

Atlas Shrugged about the weight on his shoulders.

But moving on from all those frustrations of the CD era Im not sure, I feel like Axl will always have the fire and ice.

One minute singing of his love for Volkova, the next calling Azzoff names.

Animal rights could inspire a Janies Got a Gun type song.

[darknightfan]

To have something to fucking talk about.

[wasted]

Rollercoaster of Destruction will be worth the wait.

[Smokin' Cigarettes]

Even the Dj classic guns songs are 5 years old now?

I can't believe nobody else jumped on this yet.

Pretty fucking funny I thought.

[username]

Rollercoaster of Destruction will be worth the wait.

I assume you mean Lollercoaster of Destruction?

Lollercoaster of Destruction: You Must Be Less Bloated To Ride

Yeah, that'll make a great first post-mortem GnR album.

[Intercourse]

I would be curious how a new cd would sound? What would Axl write about? Would the music be more pop or heavy rock?

CD 2 will have the same thematic framework as the last one i.e. "poor fucking me"..."they are all plotting against me..STILL"...and finally "I loved you so much but you were a whore"

We've seen how much GNR have changed their sound with each new cd, so it would be very interesting to see how Axl's emotions would sound now that he's older. What matters most to him now?

CD was no greater leap in imagination for Axl than Contraband was for Slash.

Most of CD is just long UYI style piano tunes with a whole load of bling droped onto them to tart them up for the modern age.

Sure "Shacklers" is a step away from the norm but no more so than "My World" almost two decades before.

In terms of themes, Axl will probably release songs that are over 10 years old so see my point about about Axl's emotions.

There is always a chance he will release some great rock songs but they'll smothered under such a gigantic duvet of guitars, orchestras, effects and lyrics crammed with self pity that for many of us, it'll be hard going.

Edited December 4, 2014 by Intercourse

[wasted]

Rollercoaster of Destruction will be worth the wait.

I assume you mean Lollercoaster of Destruction?

Lollercoaster of Destruction: You Must Be Less Bloated To Ride

Yeah, that'll make a great first post-mortem GnR album.

Back to mystery city.

Rollercoaster of Destruction is a album title based loosely on Appetite for Democracy.

Of course some people won't like it, but that's their problem.

[DieselDaisy]

GN'R have never been relevant since the 1980s. If relevancy is what you require, you need to delve into the field of rap/RnB.

Horseshit. Unless you're a herd-mentality goatsniffing retard, music is an objective medium and relevance (not relevancy, doucheinski) much like quality, enjoyability, and whether or not it's good to fuck to is all in the eye of the beholder (or the ear of the listener).

If you want to equate relevance to 'having an impact on the world' (which you shouldn't cause a Hank Williams song can be relevant to one person, an Enya song can be relevant to one person who's fingerblasting themself in the bath), pretty much music in general is irrelevancy at this point.

Even by your own narrow, whadderdakoolkidsinto standard I'd say having the #1 and #2 album in the US in 1991 as well as some huge songs, chief among them that little ditty about Octembuary Precipitation, made them oh just a wee bit relavinski.

If you think the Illusion era was relevant to our cultural fabric, what the cool kids were listening to, then you are more deluded than I thought? Guns were relevant in the '80s, sure, by offering a blues driven sleazoid alternative to shred and cheese, and furthermore, in Appetite, they recorded one of the bona fide best rock records ever. By 1992 however they could not leave the house without a bunch of inflatables. Guns became a flabby middle aged stadium band and they were still in their 20s! The Stones had a whole decade as cultural relevant harbingers of revolution before becoming cocaine sniffing middle aged purveyors of corporate stadium rock. What happened with Guns was, Nirvana displaced them and made them look like an old farts band when they were still young. It did not help that Axl was redefining the term 'wanker' on a week-by-week basis at a symbol time.

[Rovim]

Rollercoaster of Destruction will be worth the wait.

I assume you mean Lollercoaster of Destruction?

Lollercoaster of Destruction: You Must Be Less Bloated To Ride

Yeah, that'll make a great first post-mortem GnR album.

Back to mystery city.

Rollercoaster of Destruction is a album title based loosely on Appetite for Democracy.

Of course some people won't like it, but that's their problem.

When the ride is taking place, the rails behind you are falling off with big explosions and there is a huge Buckethead mechanical face tunnel with green glowing eyes and you rush through it while weird bloody hands and headless chickens fall from the sky. Just a small excerpt of the full ride of doom.

Edited December 4, 2014 by Rovim

[SoulMonster]

Axl is a 52 year old man, soon to be 53. Let's say he was to write, record and release a brand spankin' new album in 2015...Why would we want it? What I mean is...Most 50something rockstars, when they put out new material, it isn't really anything as good or special as what they put out in their prime. I mean, if anyone here can name me an album by an artist over 50 that was on par with their more youthful material, let me know. I'm not saying an new album would be crap simply because Axl's older...But it ain't going to be anything special either. It's like what Axl himself said in the '80s when asked if he listened to new Elton John material; he said no, the new stuff was aimed at an older audience and lacked the fire of the original releases.

I mean when the Stones were in their 50s, they put out Steel Wheels and Voodoo Lounge. Good albums but...Nothing like the '60s and '70s. When Plant and Page were around the same age as Axl they put out Walking into Clarksdale...Which isn't even really remembered. I'm just saying...for those who want a new album, why do we want it?

I want a new album because I am confident I will enjoy some of the music on it

[wasted]

Rollercoaster of Destruction will be worth the wait.

I assume you mean Lollercoaster of Destruction?

Lollercoaster of Destruction: You Must Be Less Bloated To Ride

Yeah, that'll make a great first post-mortem GnR album.

Back to mystery city.

Rollercoaster of Destruction is a album title based loosely on Appetite for Democracy.

Of course some people won't like it, but that's their problem.

When the ride is taking place, the rails behind you are falling off with big explosions and there is a huge Buckethead mechanical face tunnel with green glowing eyes and you rush through it while weird bloody hands and headless chickens fall from the sky. Just a small excerpt of the full ride of doom.

Just when you thought it safe to go out motherfuckers!

Wild Mouse was nothing, the haunted Rollercoaster of Axl's pride is so horrorifying you have to sign your life away to listen to it.

Fuck Space Mountain have a heart attack for real!!!

[tomfriend]

GN'R have never been relevant since the 1980s. If relevancy is what you require, you need to delve into the field of rap/RnB.

Horseshit. Unless you're a herd-mentality goatsniffing retard, music is an objective medium and relevance (not relevancy, doucheinski) much like quality, enjoyability, and whether or not it's good to fuck to is all in the eye of the beholder (or the ear of the listener).If you want to equate relevance to 'having an impact on the world' (which you shouldn't cause a Hank Williams song can be relevant to one person, an Enya song can be relevant to one person who's fingerblasting themself in the bath), pretty much music in general is irrelevancy at this point.Even by your own narrow, whadderdakoolkidsinto standard I'd say having the #1 and #2 album in the US in 1991 as well as some huge songs, chief among them that little ditty about Octembuary Precipitation, made them oh just a wee bit relavinski.

If you think the Illusion era was relevant to our cultural fabric, what the cool kids were listening to, then you are more deluded than I thought? Guns were relevant in the '80s, sure, by offering a blues driven sleazoid alternative to shred and cheese, and furthermore, in Appetite, they recorded one of the bona fide best rock records ever. By 1992 however they could not leave the house without a bunch of inflatables. Guns became a flabby middle aged stadium band and they were still in their 20s! The Stones had a whole decade as cultural relevant harbingers of revolution before becoming cocaine sniffing middle aged purveyors of corporate stadium rock. What happened with Guns was, Nirvana displaced them and made them look like an old farts band when they were still young. It did not help that Axl was redefining the term 'wanker' on a week-by-week basis at a symbol time.

You lost me at 'cultural fabric'. It's rock n roll, it comes and goes in waves and you ride it or you don't.

And if you're being dubbed a wanker for a different reason on a week-by-week basis by people by definition you are part of the 'cultural fabric' or no one would give enough of a shit about you to be discussing it. You can't be one of the most controversial figures of an era and irrelevant, make your mind up where this 'populist patchwork' of yours begins and ends you bitter old thing you.

[ChineseIRS]

They were still playing 70,000 seat stadiums, having #1 videos and selling millions of records in 1992. So id say they were relevant, despite grundge. U know there can be more than one relevant band or artist at a time right?

[magisme]

He's clearly a very prolific artist.

[Nosaj Thing]

Hello tremolo, welcome to the forum!

[magisme]

He's clearly a very prolific artist.

You know exactly what I meant, and I made it pretty clear in case someone would get confused.

The fact we haven't got to hear more than a handful of songs doesn't mean he hasn't created anything.

It doesn't mean he has created a bunch of stuff either.

[magisme]

He's clearly a very prolific artist.

You know exactly what I meant, and I made it pretty clear in case someone would get confused.

The fact we haven't got to hear more than a handful of songs doesn't mean he hasn't created anything.

It doesn't mean he has created a bunch of stuff either.

Based on what's being said by artists and people who have been around since the whole CD process started, there's a shitload of material in the vaults.

All hearsay, and even if it's true, how much of that is Axl's creation, and how much is all the shit his Nu employees had banged out over the years in hopes Axl would do something? We just don't know. To say he's "clearly prolific" in any sense is just wrong.

Edited December 4, 2014 by magisme

[Chuzeville]

You know how Axl doesn't how owe us anything? Well, I think he does. At least 2 albums out of the trilogy that was promised to us.

[wkuk04]

The media believes that Nirvana pushed aside Guns N' Roses back in 1991/1992. First of all Kurt had come out name calling other bands & musicians, trying to be as cool as possible in the process but maintaining he was like just being himself. He had the celebrity relationship with Love, which was all over the media. I believe he know he would never match Nevermind.

[wkuk04]

The media believes that Nirvana pushed aside Guns N' Roses back in 1991/1992. First of all Kurt had come out name calling other bands & musicians, trying to be as cool as possible in the process but maintaining he was like just being himself. He had the celebrity relationship with Love, which was all over the media. I believe he know he would never match Nevermind.

Are you talking about Axl knowing he would never match Nevermind?

It's not my favourite Nirvana album, but what an album nevertheless!

I think it's impossible and absurd to compare art. First we'd have to define what's "better."

Sure, he must have known he'd never release an album that would have the same cultural impact as Nevermind, but if we go beyond that and see the bigger picture, by 1992 it was all about alternative rock, that was a huge shift where Guns just didn't fit and there was no way they would have remained relevant through those years when the ones on top of the whole music industry were Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, Blind Melon, R.E.M., RHCP, NIN, etc.

I think that might have been a big reason for Axl not wanting to do another hard rock album and trying to venture into other stuff.

I'd still like to hear a colaboration between Axl and Trent Reznor.

I was talking about Kurt specifically to be honest. Although i do agree with you on what you said regarding axl not wanting to do another hard rock album because of the alternative rock scene. Who knows though!

[niceguy]

The media believes that Nirvana pushed aside Guns N' Roses back in 1991/1992. First of all Kurt had come out name calling other bands & musicians, trying to be as cool as possible in the process but maintaining he was like just being himself. He had the celebrity relationship with Love, which was all over the media. I believe he know he would never match Nevermind.

Kurt was a massively childish hypocrite, and I can say that as a huge fan of his music. It would have been interesting to see if he matured and regretted his past childish behavior, had he not died.

He was far worse than Axl when it came to playground-style name calling. Kurt said the most childish shit about Pearl Jam, GNR, and so many other great bands. Those guys also came up from the streets-- Kurt didn't have the copyright on being a nobody before becoming a rock star.

As a kid, what made me lose the most respect for Kurt as a person was his hatred of Pearl Jam. And yet, Pearl Jam walked away from music videos, all while Kurt would plan these elaborate videos for MTV, which is the very height of commercialism.

[My Name is Trinity]

it wouldn't be a good idea to release a new album with this line-up, it's doomed to failure

As a kid, what made me lose the most respect for Kurt as a person was his hatred of Pearl Jam. And yet, Pearl Jam walked away from music videos, all while Kurt would plan these elaborate videos for MTV, which is the very height of commercialism.

pearl jam was fuckin' boring that's why kurt hated them, there was nothing original in their music. Edited December 5, 2014 by My Name is Trinity