UK politics thread

[Len Cnut]

'No Hot Ashes', what dozy fucker ever put hot ashes in a plastic bin?!? Where would you even make hot ashes in a suburban 3 bedder?

All I know is, I prefer the old tin bins. Not these big colour coded monstrosities. In the old days, you used to tip your bin man at Christmas with a four pack because it was a real hard job. Now the bin men are wankers, going through your recycling bin like the Gestapo.

A landlord of ours is going abroad and he's asked me to, on pick up day, go over to one of his properties and move the bins 6 feet to the right of where they are standing so they are beside the gate leading to the front door of the property or the bin men won't pick em up. Now what the fuck kind of shit is that?!?

Edited March 17, 2015 by Len B'stard

[GivenToFly]

Mindboggling how lucky the tories are to have had Ed Milliband at the head of the Labour party these past few years. With a decent leader Labour would be 15 points ahead.

[Dazey]

Mindboggling how lucky the tories are to have had Ed Milliband at the head of the Labour party these past few years. With a decent leader Labour would be 15 points ahead.

With a good leader and some policies.

[Len Cnut]

Serious question from someone who is near total ignorance regarding contemporary politics, why does everyone hate Ed Milliband so much? i mean aside from the usual 'he looks like a pussy' or 'he's a lightweight' comments, seriously, is it policies, is it something particular he said, is he too extreme in socialist ideals or...?

It just seems like a point of universal agreement that he ain't shit.

[DieselDaisy]

You are talking to the wrong person there as I hate all Labour leaders, about equally.

[streak]

Well its true, Len, he looks like a pussy.

[Use Your Delusion 1]

Serious question from someone who is near total ignorance regarding contemporary politics, why does everyone hate Ed Milliband so much? i mean aside from the usual 'he looks like a pussy' or 'he's a lightweight' comments, seriously, is it policies, is it something particular he said, is he too extreme in socialist ideals or...?

It just seems like a point of universal agreement that he ain't shit.

because he's a minor threat to the current political right wing concesus

he's not very inspiring

and the press is almost entirely right wing so can dicatate whatever narrative they want

voting Lib Dem here, but don't think Milliband is bad at all, Cameron being scared to debate him is just humilating for the condom head.

[Snake-Pit]

Vote for Snake-Pit

[Len Cnut]

Shit, it's Pitt the Very Younger Will you be legalising marry-khhhhwana?

[Snake-Pit]

Shit, it's Pitt the Very Younger Will you be legalising marry-khhhhwana?

Nah, let the dealers do their thang, I'd make the Police scared to touch it though.

Give them SO MUCH paper work and penalties that they'd just have to let that one slide.

erm...

Srlsy though;

I believe the people should eat, the people should have heat, and the well being of the vulnerable is moral duty.

I believe each of us, are in debt to those who live and work on the front line of our armed and emergency services.

The intelligence service, like it or not, is vital for Britain.

So if I ever get into power, I'd bare these keys things in mind.

[Len Cnut]

thats 'bear' dear boy, 'bear' in mind. As opposed to 'bare', which is what your arse is at 2am on Clapham Common with one from among your phalanx of good time girls from the 'eath

[Dazey]

I believe each of us, are in debt to those who live and work......

Stop you right there.

[Len Cnut]

belter!

[Gracii Guns]

So, I'm in the process of starting a company with two partners. For a Conservative government, I was disappointed at the lack of support on offer for those who wish to start their own business. In a time of government-enforced austerity, budgets have been tightened so much that anyone who wishes to take a risk and improve the economy, can't do so that easily.

Edited March 18, 2015 by Gracii Guns

[DieselDaisy]

Snakepit for PM. Shaggers Unite. ''Free black pussy for all''.

[DieselDaisy]

What would be on Snakepit's manifesto? A referendum on the big European question, i.e. 'European chicks'? Plans to continue trident, 'in my pants'? Migrants of course would be free to live here provided migrants satisfy strict quota guidlines; basically they have to be ''young, female, fit and black''.

[Graeme]

Not the biggest fan of the paper it's sourced from, but Owen Jones is pretty much spot on here (sorry about the format, I really don't know how to fix it):

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/18/uk-tories-labour-snp-scottish-independence

The right have no intention of losing power, and will preside over the breakup of the country to remain in office. Look at the bile being flung in Scotland. Last week the Sun, now more or less openly working as Conservative Central Office’s propaganda unit, published a mock-up of Nicola Sturgeon in a skimpy tartan skirt, riding Miley Cyrus-style on a wrecking ball labelled Tartan Barmy. For anyone who naively believed that sexism had been purged from Britain’s political discourse, it was instructive.

But this is part of a wider political crusade: to prevent Labour forming a government with support from the SNP. It is a crusade that will surely culminate in the final dissolution of the United Kingdom.

Election 2015: The Guardian poll projection

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Barring a seismic political upset, the SNP will sweep Scotland in a few weeks’ time. In the 1950s most Scots were voting for the Unionists, the Tories’ sister party, until the nation decisively plumped for Labour. The wheel has turned again, and this time the SNP are the beneficiaries.

Many Labour MPs, believing their voters would never abandon them, allowed the emergence of modern-day rotten boroughs, not listening to the concerns of their voters. Labour’s decision to form a strategic alliance with the Tories during last year’s referendum rather than have a separate campaign of its own has proved to be a mistake of historic proportions. The no campaign traded on a politics of fear – with interventions by major corporations, egged on by government – which has left a profound resentment.

It is difficult to overstate the fury of erstwhile Labour voters, who often label their old party “red Tories”, and who have no intention of returning. They have the zealousness of the convert and the bitterness of ex-lovers.

Because of the great Scottish collapse, a Labour majority is now almost unthinkable. And even with Liberal Democrat support, Labour will probably find they have too few MPs to form a stable coalition. So without an arrangement with the SNP, Ed Miliband is unlikely to find himself in office.

Both the SNP and Labour have ruled out a coalition, which was never going to happen. But the Tories and their media allies are running a campaign of fearabout a Labour government propped up by SNP votes. If Scotland votes en masse for the SNP, its electorate will be told that their decisive democratic choice is a political pariah that has no legitimate place in governing the country. Given that support for independence is driven in part by resentment at a seemingly contemptuous Westminster elite, what better way of driving Scotland even further away?

Labour will be savaged for allying itself with those who wish to dismantle the country. But the cause of Scottish independence will be best bolstered by a Tory government. For most Scots, Toryism is an alien and hostile political force. Scots vote time and time again to reject the Tories in great numbers, and yet get lumbered with Tory governments anyway. A vote for the Tories is a vote to dissolve Britain.

If I were an SNP strategist, I would be praying for another five years of David Cameron, George Osborne, Iain Duncan Smith and Michael Gove. Far riskier for the SNP to be potentially tainted by propping up a Labour government, or for inadvertently demonstrating that Scotland can maximise its influence within the UK.

If I were an SNP strategist, I would be praying for another five years of Cameron, Osborne, Duncan Smith and Gove

If Labour lose, the right within the party is preparing a narrative that an alleged lurch to the left was responsible. The idea that Labour could have prevented a collapse in Scotland by being more Blairite is, of course, risible: Labour are tarnished precisely because they are seen to have joined forces with the Tories, and for failing to present a viable or coherent alternative to them.

Under Sturgeon’s formidable leadership, the SNP are carving out the clear progressive message that really should belong to Labour: anti-austerity, anti-nuclear weapons, pro-welfare state: and they have abandoned their flirtation with Osbornomics by dropping their pledge to cut corporation tax.

The real scrutiny about post-election coalition deals should focus on the Tories. Do they want a stitch-up with the xenophobes of Ukip, who outflank the Tories in their desire to privatise, slash services and cut taxes on the rich? Or the sectarian fundamentalists of Ulster’s DUP, peddlers of homophobic bigotry who once ran the “Save Ulster from sodomy” campaign? Such a government would be the biggest boost to the cause of Scottish independence in history.

The fanning of English resentment against Scotland. The contempt for the will of the Scottish electorate. The prospect of a Tory-led hard-right coalition that will repulse the Scottish people. Yes, the breakup of the United Kingdom beckons. And it will be the right who are responsible.

Edited March 18, 2015 by Graeme

[DieselDaisy]

I did see a cartoon in Tuesday's Mail, featuring a lilliputian Miliband nestled between Nicola Sturgeon's breasts. Quentin Letts, who is my favourite Mail writer, also joked at lengh about her odd hairstyle.

Edited March 18, 2015 by DieselDaisy

[Graeme]

Aye, let's talk about her tits and her hair, keep those women in their place... .

[Len Cnut]

*rubs his hands together* if you insist Graeme!

What about that Tory bird Mensch, shes worth a tumble eh? Peepers look a bit dodgy, probably all the sniff shes been doing Bet shes a right mucky mare in the sack tho.

[DieselDaisy]

For cynics like me, that is about as interesting as politics get.

[Johnny Drama]

When i found out she was married to Peter Mensch, manager of Metallica, i couldn't help but think that she looks like Lars Ulrich.

[Lio]

When i found out she was married to Peter Mensch, manager of Metallica, i couldn't help but think that she looks like Lars Ulrich.

I had never seen her before, but just googled her and you're right

[Snake-Pit]

What would be on Snakepit's manifesto? A referendum on the big European question, i.e. 'European chicks'? Plans to continue trident, 'in my pants'? Migrants of course would be free to live here provided migrants satisfy strict quota guidlines; basically they have to be ''young, female, fit and black''.

At least I'd be honest about it!

http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/769938.lunar_house_sex_scandal_escalates/

[Snake-Pit]

Every headline in the news hot on this campaign trail seems to be one parties pledge of the day, or the dispute of a pledge by another party, with interviews of candidates across the country for various different parties on various different issues and this whole election seems geared up for a hung parliament in Westminster anyway and everybody's saying how the traditionally smaller parties are having a stronger say in this election or whatever.

UKIP is offering protectionism for the UK against the EU for the UK to become a powerhouse in the region...

That's all well and good, except for their fascism.

I don't want it to be like V for Vendetta (2005) or whatever.

But I find it hard to believe The Conservative Party, 'The Tories'... The ones in power pretty much despite a Nick Clegg in his ear making some sort of annoying buzzing sound from time to time.

They say they'd increase spending on the NHS, I automatically don't believe it. - That's not good. To have that much faith in the powers that control stuff.

And then blah bah blah with Labour, the other people, like the same people as Tony Blair, but distance themselves from Tony Blair, just like Tony Blair did from Old Labour...

And something about SNP controlling Westminster with him!?

... right..

You've got 'The Greens' (The Green Party) still dressing green on their campaign...

Think somebody might take 'em more seriously if they dressed up like everyone else but... There you go.

The Nick Clegg, of the 'Lib Dems' Liberal Democrats... The first Lib Dem in power (sort of) since 1900, early back then, like a hundred years ago.

He's saying stuff like if you work and live at home with mom & dad, we will give you a loan to get a flat...

and stuff.

I'd see how this run up to the election unfolds.

Some want Trident, some don't, some want 3 subs, some want 4, I saw one in action on this news clip, could not believe it was an archive, or how old it looked, because it reminded me of Thunderbirds Are Go... It's like this submarine that shoots a nuke, and you see it just come out of the sea or ocean or whatever...

We actually have those, and they're nothing new. Looks kind of cool. If we had 50 of them, damn, take over the world with that fleet, if we're only caring about 3 or 4, think what 50 could do? - but yeah, that's the Trident issue.

^

and...

The EU... Some say no, some say yes, others say renegotiation of our membership while the main guy's giving the choice to us by promising or scheduling an in/out

referendum vote. It's slinging mud around with the issues of immigration and jobs and fishing.

Edited April 11, 2015 by Snake-Pit