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I have a worthy addition to the list. The song 'Anger!' by Downset off of their self-titled debut album is awesome.

https://youtu.be/H6IQxhkVIEw

Their next album has an even better start with an MlK speech leading into EMPOWER!!!

I was lucky enough to open for them this past year at Blacthorn in Queens with my band SomeonElse. The place was on fire!!!

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I have a worthy addition to the list. The song 'Anger!' by Downset off of their self-titled debut album is awesome.

https://youtu.be/H6IQxhkVIEw

Their next album has an even better start with an MlK speech leading into EMPOWER!!!

I was lucky enough to open for them this past year at Blacthorn in Queens with my band SomeonElse. The place was on fire!!!

Dude! I was devastated to miss that show in Queens, but I had tickets to see Gennady Golovkin beat down Daniel Geale that same night (which he did in the 3rd round). Golovkin is my favorite boxer and MSG is a short train ride from me on the LES so the fight won. Blackthorn is so annoying to get to via mass transit.

Yes I agree the intro to Empower is epic. Love that song/album as well. Sadly I only saw Downset once back in 1997 when they toured with Earth Crisis and Vision of Disorder. Was an incredible show though.

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Am I the only one that noticed that Jungle breaks their rules?! They said no bands with pre-debut EPs. Live?!?! Like A Suicide disqualifies Jungle. Womp womp. Good work, RS. Way to maintain your ever-so-high standards...

And if we're going greatest 1st track of all time? It's Like A Rolling Stone, period. Didn't just announce the album, it announced the arrival of Bob Dylan the rock artist. I'd give Thunder Road a close second.

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I have a worthy addition to the list. The song 'Anger!' by Downset off of their self-titled debut album is awesome.

https://youtu.be/H6IQxhkVIEw

Their next album has an even better start with an MlK speech leading into EMPOWER!!!

I was lucky enough to open for them this past year at Blacthorn in Queens with my band SomeonElse. The place was on fire!!!

Dude! I was devastated to miss that show in Queens, but I had tickets to see Gennady Golovkin beat down Daniel Geale that same night (which he did in the 3rd round). Golovkin is my favorite boxer and MSG is a short train ride from me on the LES so the fight won. Blackthorn is so annoying to get to via mass transit.

Yes I agree the intro to Empower is epic. Love that song/album as well. Sadly I only saw Downset once back in 1997 when they toured with Earth Crisis and Vision of Disorder. Was an incredible show though.

At tramps? Or CBGBs? I've seen those 3 a few times together. IN-FUCKING-SANE Shows!!! We've prob punched or spin kicked each other at some point, lol Edited by afterthebath
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I have a worthy addition to the list. The song 'Anger!' by Downset off of their self-titled debut album is awesome.

Their next album has an even better start with an MlK speech leading into EMPOWER!!!

I was lucky enough to open for them this past year at Blacthorn in Queens with my band SomeonElse. The place was on fire!!!

Dude! I was devastated to miss that show in Queens, but I had tickets to see Gennady Golovkin beat down Daniel Geale that same night (which he did in the 3rd round). Golovkin is my favorite boxer and MSG is a short train ride from me on the LES so the fight won. Blackthorn is so annoying to get to via mass transit.

Yes I agree the intro to Empower is epic. Love that song/album as well. Sadly I only saw Downset once back in 1997 when they toured with Earth Crisis and Vision of Disorder. Was an incredible show though.

At tramps? Or CBGBs? I've seen those 3 a few times together. IN-FUCKING-SANE Shows!!! We've prob punched or spin kicked each other at some point, lol

Actually went to that show when the tour stopped at the Birch Hill Nite Club in NJ. I grew up near the Jersey shore area so I went to Birch Hill, Stone Pony, Casino Skate Park, Club Krome, The Melody Bar and Middlesex County College for shows frequently. If you came down for anything then yes it is likely we punched each other hahaha.

It always cracks me up but I am prominently featured throughout this video of VOD from Middlesex back in June 1998. I still remember that show like it was yesterday. I skipped to the part where you see me pretty clearly. I am the one with the shaved head in the black basketball jersey giving the mic back to Tim at the end of the set. And for those hardcore GNR fans this is the same Tim WIlliams who sang You're Crazy with Duff at the Soundwave Festival a few years back.

https://youtu.be/tHbbRESYNjA?t=7m

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The Doors - Break on Through (to the other side)

The Stooges - 1969

Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath

Stone Temple Pilots - Dead & Bloated

Eminem - My Name Is (might break the rules because of Infinite but whatever)

Warren G - Regulate ft. Nate Dogg RIP

Wu-Tang Clan - Bring Da Muthafuckin Ruckus

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A little while ago Gene Simmons mentioned in an interview that the Jungle intro is "almost symphonic".

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/gene-simmons-says-guns-n-roses-appetite-for-destruction-had-an-honesty-that-rock-and-roll-had-been-missing/

A little while ago, Marc Canter wrote on the CANTER BANTER section (about watching GNR writing songs) that...

They were a great team, they just knew how to make it work for the best. Whatever one of the guys added seemed to fit the song well.

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?/topic/212054-marc-have-you-ever-witnessed-gnr-writing-songs/

These two statements seem like a very accurate description of what goes on GNR songs in general, on Appetite songs in particular, on Welcome to the Jungle specially, and, even more specifically, on the intro of Welcome to the Jungle

It all lasts less than a minute

Slash plays the opening riff (what a fucking riff) and everybody adds something (like Canter described). Remove that "something" and you still have a terrific riff (Slash has a handful of those on his solo albums). Add that "somethings" and you have a terrific intro to a terrific song.

Izzy adds licks and chords that I can not even begin to describe what they do "musically" to the song. But they do something. They seem to give purpose and direction to the main Slash riff. The stuff that Izzy plays actually works as the melody to the intro of the song. It is almost like a "guitar solo", in the sense that it is a melody over a musical pattern (the riff), except that this musical pattern is not a chord sequence (it is a riff) and what Izzy plays he doesnt play it like a traditional guitar solo. Please show me any other rhythm guitar player that does this kind of thing because I dont know (m)any.

And then there is Axl. He adds another something. Axl begins with the spoken "Oh My God" which seems like a warning. Its like he can see something that we dont/cant see yet and he knows that it is no good. And then he howls. I dont know any other singer in the popular music business that does this type of thing that Axl does here (and in a few other GNR songs, like Anything Goes). He howls -- awwwwwwwwww awwwwwwwwww owwwwww owwwwwwwwwww -- but his howling is musical, it has a purpose, it actually works as a musical instrument that adds drama and momentum to the song. Sometimes his howling in Jungle sounds like he is riding the music, as if he is above it. Other times it sounds like some kind of response to the music, it is as if Axl was making these aaaaawwwwwwww... aaaaaaaaawwwwwwww... noises because he is sensing the music passing through him. Any way, once Axl starts doing this ooooooooowwwwwwwwwww aaaaaaawwwww, that thing is so musical and it is so much into the song that it seems to grab you and take you through that part of the song. Please show me any other singer that does that because I dont know any.

And then there is Duff and Steven, certainly adding fuel to the fire. I wont say that they are brilliant here but I probably should because the (somewhat simple and very organic) beat that they play here is the perfect fit to the Slash riff, it is at once a strong and swinging embrace that takes the riff to another level, that gives (even more) rhythm and groove to it. And, being the pros they were at their early 20s (I am kidding here, sometimes I wonder how much the producer of Appetite helped with these things), they use the classic rock/pop tumtumtumtumtumtum "drumming thing" (sorry I dont know the name of that particular type/piece of drumming) at the very end of the intro.

all these little bits and pieces, all this something, as Canter described, they turn a tremendous Slash riff into a maniacal crescendo, a sort of a symphony, like Simmons described.

And when this intro comes to an end, it actually gets even better, because it all explodes into another monstrous Slash riff, the main riff of the song, the one that Axl sings over.

To the best of my knowledge this is crazy rock n roll with a tremendous musical quality.

And you add the anger and the hunger to all that. Remember the Seattle trip story that Duff mentioned in his book? The one trip that according to Duff brought the band together? Its no wonder Tracii Guns and (I cant remember his name) the other guy left this band in 1985 because they didnt want to leave LA to go to all the way to fuckin Seattle and play for 10 people. Tracii wanted to be in a band, he wanted to be a rock star, he wanted to write music but... did he really want it? did he really need it?

You dont have to ask those questions about Axl, Izzy, Slash, Duff and Steven. Today we know that they are very different people, but back then they had that in common -- the anger and, most of all, the hunger. By all accounts, they were out to fucking make it -- no matter what.

All this shows in the music. All this shows in Appetite. This is the type of stuff that you can not tell anyone to do. You either have it in you or you dont.

This is music that comes from the guts and it has a tremendous musical quality. You rarely see a band that combines these 2 qualities.

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