Wacky World of The Ominous Ninja Izzy Stradlin and NO! Gang

[Zoot]

1 minute ago, Słash said:

God knows whats wrong with some people, just have a normal conversation

But No there are some wierdos who attack for no reason

Dont worry Kristina, we are here for you

I'd just ignore them. I'm not upset or anything. But thank you anyway!

[int8]

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Izzy is so mysterious, yet loved by so many for his songwriting and sense of “cool.” Tell us something about his personality. Is he funny? Any interesting hobbies? Strange eating habits? Anything?
I haven’t seen him or spoken with him in almost 20 years. Yes, he is a very funny, funny man. He was always just one of those guys, even before he was in GN’R. You know, they come along every once in a while. They have an innate sort of charisma, whether they want it or not.

OK, going back to the funny …. share a funny Izzy story
On gig day somewhere in Australia we were being escorted across a parking lot by local security when this fan, who’d magically been every place we’d been throughout the trip, starts screaming for the thousandth time “IZZY!! IZZY!! PUNCH ME IN THE FACE!!!” Izzy finally turns to the nearest security dude and goes “Could you please punch that kid in the face he’s been asking for it all week.” 

Did he do it?
Nah, we were all laughing too hard.

I once read somewhere that you were a little bitter about the breakup of the Ju Ju Hounds.
For me, the years after realizing that the band was over were the hardest of my life. But the only person responsible for that is me by having allowed addiction to take me over completely. It was his band and he had every right to do or not do whatever he wanted with it. I just wish that whatever it was could’ve been worked out by talking to his friends and band members about it, and I wish that, if nothing else, we could’ve remained great friends.

So what ultimately caused the break-up?
There was a ton of pressure on the guy at the time, and even though the crowds in Europe, Japan, Mexico, Australia really seemed to appreciate what we were doing, the crowds and press in the US couldn’t seem to shake the G N’ R comparisons. I felt that must’ve weared on him quite a bit, ya know? The little bit we toured here was pretty brutal and attendance was never enough to be breaking even, let alone for it to be lucrative. He was spending a ton of his own money to make it happen. That gets expensive, and when it starts to feel under appreciated or appreciated for the wrong reasons, it starts to not make a whole lotta sense. Im glad to see that he still enjoys making and recording new music -just without all the drama and hustle-bustle of the whole deal … and right now, boy can I can relate! Anyway, the JuJu Hounds ended because Izzy didn’t wanna do it anymore. I’ll never know what he was feeling that would’ve led him to that decision because i’m not him. Any regrettable behavior on my part happened as a result of the end of that band, not while I was in it.
It was my favorite band and still is, and I was crushed that it was over. It took a long time to for me to even come to terms with it being finished. As a result, I made a series of terrible decisions regarding drugs/crowd in the years that followed that culminated in me being sent to prison.
 

That's the part about Izzy from different interview with Jimmy. Seems like Jimmy's addiction happened as a result of the breakup, but who knows? If so, damn, that's even worse. I agree with you @Kris_1989 and @Tori72, we need to know what Izzy has to say about it 

 

Thank you @Kris_1989 for linking the interview, the whole story is new to me. 

Edited March 9, 2017 by int8

[Zoot]

8 minutes ago, int8 said:

That's the part about Izzy from interview with Jimmy. Seems like Jimmy's addiction happened as a result of the breakup, but who knows? If so, damn, that's even worse. I agree with you @Kris_1989 and @Tori72, we need to know what Izzy has to say about it 

 

Thank you @Kris_1989 for linking the interview, the whole story is new to me. 

That's what I'm confused about. I know in a earlier interview Jimmy said that he started using when he was having trouble relating to Izzy. He thought that by using heroin it would bring them closer. As stupid as that sounds. Which is why I always thought Izzy left the JuJu hounds because of the drugs. I figured he didn't want to go down that road again and took off before it got too bad. But in this interview it sounds like all that happened later and Izzy left without any warning? The whole situation is a bit weird? (The other interview was posted earlier in this thread but I cant remember which page, sorry!)

New Steven interview is out. He comes in at 1:11:23. I didn't want to post this in the main section because you all know what will happen.  

So now he's saying he's retired. I was really hoping he would join up with a band or start one of his own again. C'mon Steven you can't let that Argentina BS be your last show!  

 

[Jane M.]

I am so NOT ready for more Steven bashing. 

[SerenityScorp]

Doubt  He will retired 

 

Someone please tell Me what happened with His Band? 

[Darkenchantress]

I'm so done with the main section... but i always come back, i love me a good argument. To annoy die hard fans of the holy trinity is too funny. 

Saw this on tumblr and i thought you would like it as much as i do. 

[SerenityScorp]

9 minutes ago, Darkenchantress said:

I'm so done with the main section... but i always come back, i love me a good argument. To annoy die hard fans of the holy trinity is too funny. 

Saw this on tumblr and i thought you would like it as much as i do. 

Well Im a die hard Fans of the holy Trinity

[Darkenchantress]

6 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said:

Well Im a die hard Fans of the holy Trinity

I wouldn't annoy you or you'd haunt me with your avatar like you did to @Archtop  

[SerenityScorp]

10 minutes ago, Darkenchantress said:

I wouldn't annoy you or you'd haunt me with your avatar like you did to @Archtop  

 

[Darkenchantress]

Ah I really want to comment about that interview but Im late to work. Tonight I will. It's sad that the Juju's ended, i loved the vibes around them a lot. 

[dgnr]

4 hours ago, Darkenchantress said:

I'm so done with the main section... but i always come back, i love me a good argument. To annoy die hard fans of the holy trinity is too funny. 

 

You know what is funny? It's that these people 'die hard fans of the holy trinity' were the same that 2 years ago were badmouthing Slash and calling him the devil, just because of his shit with Axl. They didn't want the reunion, they worshiped the hired guns, telling that Slash was nothing near them. Now that Axl is good with Slash again, they act like they loved Slash all that time. These people are brainwashed and  only live to worship their prince Axl. Whatever he does it's well done. And now they decided to hate Izzy, because he had the balls to refuse to take part on something that it was unfair to him. As prince Axl doesn't seem to care about Izzy, they hate him now too. Seriously, I don't bother arguing with that kind of fans, because the shit they say really gets on my nervs 
 

4 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:

Well Im a die hard Fans of the holy Trinity

But we love you! You're our girl, you created this beautiful place and the 'no gang', and you're our fav witch and artist 

And you're a fellow sister of the Slaxl!!

Edited March 9, 2017 by dgnr

[KURT19]

Dear Main Section:

 

[Słash]

6 hours ago, Jane M. said:

I am so NOT ready for more Steven bashing. 

I still have a headache cause of some people on there

[Kmartin9928]

On 3/7/2017 at 9:18 PM, Kris_1989 said:

Izzy has no stage presence.. I have watched him with Aerosmith quite a few times and I disagree with it.. that video should be sent to the member of guns.. I only read this forum.. I can't stand reading most things posted on here because they agree with the big 3.. they need to be checked out and face reality that the big 3 will say anything for them to look good.. I will not invest my money in any of those clowns concerts..

[BorderlineCrazy]

10 hours ago, Kris_1989 said:

Also, thank you to @BorderlineCrazy & @Słash for what you said in the other thread. I was getting major troll vibes so that's why I bowed out. It's always the same argument in the main section anyway... I can't be bothered to keep posting the same thing over and over again.

I wanted to stay out of that thread for good and not argue about Steven's situation anymore to the point that I ignored that dude who seems to be GNR's CEO or something when he quoted me with some incredibly stupid answer but I couldn't take it any longer when I saw he was giving you shit for not loving the same things he loves and there I was once again arguing the same old shit at 4 in the morning instead of sleeping. Can't fn' help it! 

7 hours ago, Kris_1989 said:

New Steven interview is out. He comes in at 1:11:23. I didn't want to post this in the main section because you all know what will happen.  

So now he's saying he's retired. I was really hoping he would join up with a band or start one of his own again. C'mon Steven you can't let that Argentina BS be your last show!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Don't do that, Steven!! This world makes no sense without your groove 

5 hours ago, SerenityScorp said:

Well Im a die hard Fans of the holy Trinity

I don't think loving those three is a problem at all. I would be hated over here otherwise, I love Slash more than life 

The thing is when some people talk about them as if they were Gods who can do no wrong and put everyone else down to defend them. That's what sucks.

1 hour ago, dgnr said:

You know what is funny? It's that these people 'die hard fans of the holy trinity' were the same that 2 years ago were badmouthing Slash and calling him the devil, just because of his shit with Axl. They didn't want the reunion, they worshiped the hired guns, telling that Slash was nothing near them. Now that Axl is good with Slash again, they act like they loved Slash all that time. These people are brainwashed and  only live to worship their prince Axl. Whatever he does it's well done. And now they decided to hate Izzy, because he had the balls to refuse to take part on something that it was unfair to him. As prince Axl doesn't seem to care about Izzy, they hate him now too. Seriously, I don't bother arguing with that kind of fans, because the shit they say really gets on my nervs 

I admire your ability to stay away from that shit. I try and try and keep failling 

Edited March 9, 2017 by BorderlineCrazy

[Archtop]

Wow just been in the main section, that guys definantly on a mission, he quoted me in the billboard thread then I see his basically trolled every poster who's opion didn't agree with his. Got to love it, I think somebody had too much time on his hands, well done @Kris_1989 @BorderlineCrazy @Słash loved your posts. 

The Jimmy Ashhurst interview is a good one, I like Jimmy and always wondered what went down in Tinidad, there's an interview were Jimmy says that he greatly regretts never having the oppertunity to settle things with Izzy. It really does seem that when Izzy decides he doesn't like something he washes his hands of it and moves on.

I haven't seen the latest Steven video, do we learn anything new? not sure if I have the energy to watch it.

[Zoot]

4 minutes ago, Archtop said:

Wow just been in the main section, that guys definantly on a mission, he quoted me in the billboard thread then I see his basically trolled every poster who's opion didn't agree with his. Got to love it, I think somebody had too much time on his hands, well done @Kris_1989 @BorderlineCrazy @Słash loved your posts. 

The Jimmy Ashhurst interview is a good one, I like Jimmy and always wondered what went down in Tinidad, there's an interview were Jimmy says that he greatly regretts never having the oppertunity to settle things with Izzy. It really does seem that when Izzy decides he doesn't like something he washes his hands of it and moves on.

I haven't seen the latest Steven video, do we learn anything new? not sure if I have the energy to watch it.

Nothing new other than him claiming that he's retired now.

I think our little witch @SerenityScorp may have been hacked on twitter. Getting revenge, @Archtop?

[Archtop]

11 minutes ago, Kris_1989 said:

Nothing new other than him claiming that he's retired now.

I think our little witch @SerenityScorp may have been hacked on twitter. Getting revenge, @Archtop?

Ooo no what's happened? Not hung out on Twitter today, I'll go see.

[Darkenchantress]

4 hours ago, dgnr said:

You know what is funny? It's that these people 'die hard fans of the holy trinity' were the same that 2 years ago were badmouthing Slash and calling him the devil, just because of his shit with Axl. They didn't want the reunion, they worshiped the hired guns, telling that Slash was nothing near them. Now that Axl is good with Slash again, they act like they loved Slash all that time. These people are brainwashed and  only live to worship their prince Axl. Whatever he does it's well done. And now they decided to hate Izzy, because he had the balls to refuse to take part on something that it was unfair to him. As prince Axl doesn't seem to care about Izzy, they hate him now too. Seriously, I don't bother arguing with that kind of fans, because the shit they say really gets on my nervs 
 

 

I'm out of likes but thank you! That's exactly what I mean. Come on, I've loved those 5 dysfunctional assholes since I was a kid. I don't hate Axl, Slash or Duff but if they are doing something I consider to be wrong I'm gonna say it. And if Izzy were involved and the situation with Steven was the same, I'd criticize him too no matter how much I love or admire him. As you said, first the cancer was Slash, now it's Izzy (they don't even take Steven seriously) just because he never put up with Axl's shit. Exhausting. And seriously, if I read the word "partnership" again... Ugh.

About the "Izzy has no stage presence" I won't even bother. The videos are there and he has it. He just got it. He doesn't need to move frantically like he needs an exorcist. He's got the fucking charisma and coolness around him and that's it, you got it or not. 

2 hours ago, Archtop said:

The Jimmy Ashhurst interview is a good one, I like Jimmy and always wondered what went down in Tinidad, there's an interview were Jimmy says that he greatly regretts never having the oppertunity to settle things with Izzy. It really does seem that when Izzy decides he doesn't like something he washes his hands of it and moves on.

I haven't seen the latest Steven video, do we learn anything new? not sure if I have the energy to watch it.

I liked the interview, there were some part I hadn't read before. I don't really have an opinion about Jimmy, I kinda found his affirmation of doing drugs to relate to Izzy lame, like, he lacks a personality or something but he seems genuinely upset about losing Izzy's friendship. I don't know, for other people's interviews it seems that he is a very good friend but I really think that he hates confrontation of any type and when the situation turns into something he doesn't like he just runs away no matter what or who he leaves behind. 

[BorderlineCrazy]

16 minutes ago, Darkenchantress said:

And seriously, if I read the word "partnership" again... Ugh.

COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!

I'm so sick of the fn' idiots who want us GNR fans to talk about the band as if it was McDonalds...

"Why would they risk such a huge tour", " There's too much money at stake", "He sold his share"... SUCK MY DICK! This was a dangerous rock n' roll band, not a Broadway company. Now, instead of being fans of a music band, we're supposed to check how they're doing on fn' Wall Street. INFUCKINSANE!!!

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On a nicer note, Steven will be playing a benefit show on march 25th. He said other people playing are Tony from No Doubt(?), Jeff Pilson, Nancy Wilson and Ritchie Kotzen.

But he considers himself retired!!! 

[Darkenchantress]

2 minutes ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!

I'm so sick of the fn' idiots who want us GNR fans to talk about the band as if it was McDonalds...

"Why would they risk such a huge tour", " There's too much money at stake", "He sold his share"... SUCK MY DICK! This was a dangerous rock n' roll band, not a Broadway company. Now, instead of being fans of a music band, we're supposed to check how they're doing on fn' Wall Street. INFUCKINSANE!!!

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On a nicer note, Steven will be playing a benefit show on march 25th. He said other people playing are Tony from No Doubt(?), Jeff Pilson, Nancy Wilson and Ritchie Kotzen.

But he considers himself retired!!! 

Yeah, I'm a nostalgic idiot who still thinks rock n' roll is alive when clearly it is not. I don't expect them to fuck groupies, cause riots and do smack but keeping it real, you know?

It's sad to hear that Steven is retired but if he is at peace with it that's good. I'd wish he did something with Izzy though.

And speaking about Izzy,  @RONIN  just opened a nice thread about his contributions to UYI's on the main section. Get your black robes and brooms, my fellow witches, it's gonna be a busy night. 

[Zoot]

9 minutes ago, Darkenchantress said:

And speaking about Izzy,  @RONIN  just opened a nice thread about his contributions to UYI's on the main section. Get your black robes and brooms, my fellow witches, it's gonna be a busy night.

Although, if they want an argument I think Ronin is more than capable of giving them a run for their money. Break out the popcorn! 

18 minutes ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

I'm so sick of the fn' idiots who want us GNR fans to talk about the band as if it was McDonalds...

100% this!!

It's just all so corporate now. It's like everyone has forgotten why they fell in love with Rock n' Roll & GNR in the first place. No wonder why the genre is on life support. 

Edited March 9, 2017 by Kris_1989

[BorderlineCrazy]

14 minutes ago, Darkenchantress said:

Yeah, I'm a nostalgic idiot who still thinks rock n' roll is alive when clearly it is not. I don't expect them to fuck groupies, cause riots and do smack but keeping it real, you know?

It's sad to hear that Steven is retired but if he is at peace with it that's good. I'd wish he did something with Izzy though.

And speaking about Izzy,  @RONIN  just opened a nice thread about his contributions to UYI's on the main section. Get your black robes and brooms, my fellow witches, it's gonna be a busy night. 

I don't know how Slash deals with the GNR world. He's a guy who loves writing and recording music, he's always working, gives many interviews, tries to put things together in advance (when he's recording new music, when it gets released). Everything about SMKC was crystal clear and things were pretty genuine, setlists would vary... I miss all that and I'm sure he does too. He must be enjoying the money and even more the fact that's he's getting to rock full stadiums all over the world but still it can't be easy to do things the way his nemesis Axl wants.

I gotta say Steven again mentioned the "unless there were an establish band..." thing. So it looks like he's sort of putting his music career in hiatus but there's still hope he might do something in the future and I bet if Izzy invited him to play a song with him, Steven would be there before Izzy got to hung the phone.

A new Izzy thread? WHY!? Heeeere we go again.

15 minutes ago, Kris_1989 said:

It's just all so corporate now. It's like everyone has forgotten why they fell in love with Rock n' Roll & GNR in the first place. No wonder why the genre is on life support. 

It's really fn' terrible!! I can understand the band becoming greedy (not that I like it or agree but I can get it) but the fans? Why do they care about the financial side of a rock band? It's beyond ridiculous! If you check the show threads, there's always someone asking "is this show sold out?" as if that was gonna make any difference. I love music, that's why I'm a Guns N' Roses fan and not an Apple or Burger King fan...

Gotta admit I have a weakness for Pepsi, though (?)

[dgnr]

3 hours ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

I admire your ability to stay away from that shit. I try and try and keep failling 

I just come to terms a while ago that I'm not fan of the same band as those guys. I'm fan of Guns N' Fuckin Roses, the 5 guys, all of them, I love them the same. I can't think of a reason to love Axl more than I love Steven. I think about these a lot of times: the main reason I love AFD so much is because of the drums. Seriously, the drums in that record, they are just perfect. You know there are moments of brilliance, genius in there. Rocket Queen and Nightrain are songs that I could happily only hear the drums and declare them masterpieces. The drums in the Jungle breakdown are a piece of art, the way it's building for Axl say 'You know were you are?' it's beautiful, man, it's just beautiful. It's the way the drums should sound with Axl's voice. It seems that Steven is 'pelotando' as a kid all the time, sometimes to my hears - this probably won't make any sense, but anyway -  it seems that he plays like he is in a samba school or something, there's so much joy in what he's playing. And then it comes Axl with all that anger and rawness. It just fIts. Everything in that record just fits together. Listening to AFD with headphones it's one of the most beautiful and rewarding experiences ever. And that's why I can't take a person that keeps saying that Steven was just the guy at the right place and the right time, that the talent was in the other 4, that he doesn't bring anything to the table. Those people to me are not fans of the same band as I am. They are Axl fans, they are NuGNR fans. The Guns N' Roses I love is not even close to the Guns N' Roses they love. They will never hear what I hear in that record, as much as I try to explain what I hear to them, that's why it's not worth it to argue with these people. Keep your perfect technician Buckethead, I'll take Steven's feel any day. 

Sorry for the long, non-sense post, I just feel like it  
 

5 minutes ago, BorderlineCrazy said:

On a nicer note, Steven will be playing a benefit show on march 25th. He said other people playing are Tony from No Doubt(?)

Tony from No Doubt is the bassist, the cute guy that dumped Gwen - he must has problems. I'm not a fan of their music - I like 'Don't Speak' very much though (Don't Speak is about Tony btw) - but Gwen is one of the most beautiful girls in this planet, you must be stupid if you dump her. He's really good friends with Steven, so maybe not as bad as I think haha 

[Jane M.]

2 minutes ago, dgnr said:

I just come to terms a while ago that I'm not fan of the same band as those guys. I'm fan of Guns N' Fuckin Roses, the 5 guys, all of them, I love them the same. I can't think of a reason to love Axl more than I love Steven. I think about these a lot of times: the main reason I love AFD so much is because of the drums. Seriously, the drums in that record, they are just perfect. You know there are moments of brilliance, genius in there. Rocket Queen and Nightrain are songs that I could happily only hear the drums and declare them masterpieces. The drums in the Jungle breakdown are a piece of art, the way it's building for Axl say 'You know were you are?' it's beautiful, man, it's just beautiful. It's the way the drums should sound with Axl's voice. It seems that Steven is 'pelotando' as a kid all the time, sometimes to my hears - this probably won't make any sense, but anyway -  it seems that he plays like he is in a samba school or something, there's so much joy in what he's playing. And then it comes Axl with all that anger and rawness. It just fIts. Everything in that record just fits together. Listening to AFD with headphones it's one of the most beautiful and rewarding experiences ever. And that's why I can't take a person that keeps saying that Steven was just the guy at the right place and the right time, that the talent was in the other 4, that he doesn't bring anything to the table. Those people to me are not fans of the same band as I am. They are Axl fans, they are NuGNR fans. The Guns N' Roses I love is not even close to the Guns N' Roses they love. They will never hear what I hear in that record, as much as I try to explain what I hear to them, that's why it's not worth it to argue with these people. Keep your perfect technician Buckethead, I'll take Steven's feel any day. 

Beautiful post. Thank you.