Popular Post sidman69 Posted February 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2018 My co-host Geoff and I got a chance to sit down with former GNR Producer Sean Beavan for almost 2 hours and discuss a lot of Guns N' Roses related items, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson and other stuff! Sean was awesome and super nice to do this for us. 21 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PublicEnemy Posted February 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2018 (edited) The most interesting piece of info from this interview is that the vocals that we hear on the album except for one song were all recorded in 1999. Edited February 20, 2018 by PublicEnemy 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Fantastic interview! As a music nerd, I was a little impatient during the 'what does a producer do portion?' but Im sure many people benefited from it. I bet Beaven was mistaken when he says that both Slash and Duff overlapped with Vrenna. But interesting as Slash was back and forth again (pun intended) a few times in the preceding years. Maybe this exposes another 'feel out period' ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidman69 Posted February 20, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2018 1 hour ago, soon said: Fantastic interview! As a music nerd, I was a little impatient during the 'what does a producer do portion?' but Im sure many people benefited from it. I bet Beaven was mistaken when he says that both Slash and Duff overlapped with Vrenna. But interesting as Slash was back and forth again (pun intended) a few times in the preceding years. Maybe this exposes another 'feel out period' ? I interviewed another big named guy who worked with Guns N Roses today. Cant say who it was, but hes got some interesting axl stories. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Great once again man. I'd have loved to have been a fly on the wall during those vocal recordings. In my opinion, it's some of the best vocals Axl has ever produced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleep Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Great interview. I'm a big fan of Sean's so it was cool to hear from him. Lots of good insights. I'd love a long interview with Robin about it all. Maybe Billy. Josh has spoken about it a bit and is always awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro GNR Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Wow, that was a great chat. Couldn’t hear the full thing yet...but may I ask you a fan favour??? Next time you get to interview someone like Sean, I think all of us would like to know more about Axl vocal chops. something like...could Axl sing the way he used to...or did he change his style due to limitations. Thanks a lot in name of all of us!!! @sidman69 Edited February 21, 2018 by Alejandro GNR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Why does Beavan say there was a GNR show that NIN opened in Germany that Axl never showed up for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 First show Nine Inch Nails opening for GNR and Axl doesnt show up because "AXL IS IN PARIS"! Sean Beavan: "we got out before the big riot started" Around 9m37s mark === searched on GNRONTOUR and its probably this one... 08.21.91 - Oslo Spektrum, Oslo, Norwayopening act: Skid Rownotes: This show was canceled due to Axl's vocal troubles. He flew to Paris to see a specialist during this time. http://gnrontour.com/setlistalm91.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Great question and great answer about the producer's job -- and specifically how Sean Beavan does the producer job -- at the 19m16s mark Its a fantastic answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) so its 35 songs with NO VOCALS, right? except for those who ended up on the album? Edited February 21, 2018 by ludurigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Why Chinese Democracy is indeed Axl Rose solo album At 57m46 Edited February 21, 2018 by ludurigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem16 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Thanks for cool insight of music industry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidman69 Posted February 21, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) glad you guys are enjoying it! We got some great some stuff coming up! Edited February 21, 2018 by sidman69 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 That was great.thank you guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kok Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Great stuff. Though I would love it if you would ask him some more question about songs that did not make it on the album. What were his favourite, what were Axl favourite, were they more rockers, more epic etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidman69 Posted February 21, 2018 Author Share Posted February 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, kok said: Great stuff. Though I would love it if you would ask him some more question about songs that did not make it on the album. What were his favourite, what were Axl favourite, were they more rockers, more epic etc we can always have him on again and ask him. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Order of Nine Posted February 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, ludurigan said: Why Chinese Democracy is indeed Axl Rose solo album At 57m46 The fact is that before this there was a power struggle for creative control. That will always be the downfall of any band. Just like Dave Mustaine is the leader of Megadeth and Angus is the leader of AC DC Axl is the leader of Guns. Anyone who complains about a band having a person/leader that has the last say has NO IDEA about how a band of this magnitude needs to operate. Instead of having four or five other people reaching for the steering wheel all the time. And if CD was a solo release WHY are there other musicians credited for writing??????????? People complaining about this love to over look all the facts. Edited February 21, 2018 by Order of Nine 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parisrocks Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I was fully impressed and grateful that Beavan did such a long discussion that was GN'R focused. So happy that I went and bought a few 8MM songs, and to my surprise, they're damn good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ludurigan Posted February 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2018 50 minutes ago, Order of Nine said: The fact is that before this there was a power struggle for creative control. That will always be the downfall of any band. Just like Dave Mustaine is the leader of Megadeth and Angus is the leader of AC DC Axl is the leader of Guns. Anyone who complains about a band having a person/leader that has the last say has NO IDEA about how a band of this magnitude needs to operate. Instead of having four or five other people reaching for the steering wheel all the time. And if CD was a solo release WHY are there other musicians credited for writing??????????? People complaining about this love to over look all the facts. you have the producer telling you that axl wanted HIS vision on the album and he wanted to avoid any creative tension or confrontation if you can NOT understand what that means then there is nothing i can do to help you! 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, ludurigan said: you have the producer telling you that axl wanted HIS vision on the album and he wanted to avoid any creative tension or confrontation if you can NOT understand what that means then there is nothing i can do to help you! No shit Sherlock.. it's largely always been his vision. But that is besides the point when you have multiple musicians contributing to the WRITING process. That's not a solo act equation. Your the one that needs help, you and the countless other people hear that cry about CD being a solo album of Axl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiguns Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, ludurigan said: you have the producer telling you that axl wanted HIS vision on the album and he wanted to avoid any creative tension or confrontation if you can NOT understand what that means then there is nothing i can do to help you! Here you go again. For once can you step away and think objectively?. You started of so well, then reverted back to the same closed mindedness. Sean Bevan is giving us an outside perspective on his involvement with Guns N Roses and as a fan its great to get someone's insight that was actually involved. If you notice all others people in this thread are taking the information provided by Mr Bevan and approaching it from a perspective of i did not know that, processing it, potentially looking at things differently then before. Sitting her reading others people discussing their thoughts on information provided by Mr Bevan has been great as its objective and creating good talking points. Please don't derail this as there are a number of threads you have stopped dead in there tracks, as you can not seem to stay objective on any matter in relation to the band. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 As much as I admire the fantasy of people calling NuGNR a "band" it really wasnt. It was Axl paying people to writte according to his "vision". People were there cause was their jobs, they wasnt there to create something and see how it goes and collect the loot as a group effort, they where there cause they was paid for it. Everything these people did with Axl was because he was paying them for it. This is not what a rock n roll band is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, default_ said: As much as I admire the fantasy of people calling NuGNR a "band" it really wasnt. It was Axl paying people to writte according to his "vision". People were there cause was their jobs, they wasnt there to create something and see how it goes and collect the loot as a group effort, they where there cause they was paid for it. Everything these people did with Axl was because he was paying them for it. This is not what a rock n roll band is. ^clueless and most likely has NEVER been in a band. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I'm in two bands and in one I write all the music cause I'm the only guitar player, and the other I do lead guitar. In the latter it's me and two other guys who are basically session live guys for the time being. We learn the songs that the main guy wrote and recorded. It's his vision and his alone that has any merit. We're there to do a job and that's rounding out the lineup so we can do live gigs. After we tour we will become full members and write as a band. See any similarities (other than the becoming full members/writing as a band part?) NuGNR was AXL'S SOLO PROJECT. His band members did exactly what I'm doing now: learning someone else's music. How anyone can call GNR 99-2015 an actual band and not laugh at the same time is either a moron, diluted, ignorant, or all of the above. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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