Iron MikeyJ Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, soon said: I made no generalizations. You did. I have native friends and that apparently blows your mind to the point that my having mentioned it has prompted you to call me a liar and a racist. What you have said here, based on only your imagination and nothing that I said, are such poorly formed thoughts. Even for the internet. Do you call them my "native friends" or just your friends? I have quite a FEW that are my friends that HAPPEN to be Native American. One of which, his dad's first name IS Muskrat (not nickname, that's his actual name). Maybe I should ask him about these claims??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Iron MikeyJ said: Do you call them my "native friends" or just your friends? I have quite a FEW that are my friends that HAPPEN to be Native American. One of which, his dad's first name IS Muskrat (not nickname, that's his actual name). Maybe I should ask him about these claims??? Cool. Youre going to ask Muskrat who my friends are then? Edited December 13, 2018 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, soon said: Thats racist. Even IF the mud you claim to have prepared EXISTS (if its true then its True). But the suggestion that we would wear bikinis is SO 1980 and DOES NOT represent man on man mud wrestling in 2018. I should know, my cabin is surrounded by them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, soon said: Cool. Youre going to ask Muskrat who my friends are then? Well you made the claim that "Indigenous people take gifts of tobacco for rituals and healing." Then I said "ok let's see what an actual Native American has to say about this." Now you are saying YOUR friends do this. See the difference? I didn't make this claim that it's something "Indenginous people" do, you did. That's a generalization my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Iron MikeyJ said: Well you made the claim that "Indigenous people take gifts of tobacco for rituals and healing." Then I said "ok let's see what an actual Native American has to say about this." Now you are saying YOUR friends do this. See the difference? I didn't make this claim that it's something "Indenginous people" do, you did. That's a generalization my friend. You're going full SJW against your own imagination! Edited December 13, 2018 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, soon said: You're being really dumb. So you have resorted to name calling then? Prove it Soon. I can back up the things I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Iron MikeyJ said: So you have resorted to name calling then? Prove it Soon. I can back up the things I say. You've called me a liar and a racist just for mentioning some friendships. Do you not see how dumb that is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, Iron MikeyJ said: Well you made the claim that "Indigenous people take gifts of tobacco for rituals and healing." Then I said "ok let's see what an actual Native American has to say about this." Now you are saying YOUR friends do this. See the difference? I didn't make this claim that it's something "Indenginous people" do, you did. That's a generalization my friend. Well if his friends are natives and they do it then natives do do it, you can't account for an entire fuckin' race wholesale down to the last person with any comment, its like saying people in America listen to rock music, thats not an incorrect statement, now does EVERY last bastard there listen to rock music? Of course not. Come on man, are you having one of those days or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, soon said: You've called me a liar and a racist just for mentioning some friendships. Do you not see how dumb that is? I DIDNT call you either. I said ALL along that it might be true, my first post started with "If it's TRUE, then its true." I just so happen to have a personal experience with MANY Native Americans, and I've NEVER heard anything remotely like what you are saying. That doesnt mean I dont believe you, but you should be able to see why I'm a bit skeptical. As for racists comment. I said making these sorts of generalizations are at very least insensitive and at their most racist. That isnt saying "You are a racist." Its saying that these types of generalizations are a slippery slope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Iron MikeyJ said: I DIDNT call you either. I said ALL along that it might be true, my first post started with "If it's TRUE, then its true." I just so happen to have a personal experience with MANY Native Americans, and I've NEVER heard anything remotely like what you are saying. That doesnt mean I dont believe you, but you should be able to see why I'm a bit skeptical. As for racists comment. I said making these sorts of generalizations are at very least insensitive and at their most racist. That isnt saying "You are a racist." Its saying that these types of generalizations are a slippery slope. I did not make any generalizations. You imagined all the things that have upset you based, only in the loosest of terms, on my brief reference to some friendships. Please stop mucking up the thread? Edited December 13, 2018 by soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Well if his friends are natives and they do it then natives do do it, you can't account for an entire fuckin' race wholesale down to the last person with any comment, its like saying people in America listen to rock music, thats not an incorrect statement, now does EVERY last bastard there listen to rock music? Of course not. Come on man, are you having one of those days or something? Dont act like you weren't just as shocked by his statement as I was, lol. Even though I'm not Native American myself, I kinda got offended by that generalization. But it's really not something that bothers me all that much. 1 minute ago, soon said: I did not make any generalizations. You imagined all the things that have upset you based, only in the loosest of terms, on my brief reference to some friendships. Please stop mucking up the thread? Ok, have a nice day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Quote Dont act like you weren't just as shocked by his statement as I was I really wasn't? To the point where I'm not sure which statement was supposed to be shocking. Anyway, you've settled it now so alls well in Gotham again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 I smoke fine, hand rolled, premium cigars. I don't inhale them. They are smoked for taste, to accompany a beverage and for relaxation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 18 hours ago, Kasanova King said: I smoke fine, hand rolled, premium cigars. I don't inhale them. They are smoked for taste, to accompany a beverage and for relaxation. As engineered by your friendly local communist junta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 How. Me Sitting Wolf. You Jane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Smoked cigarettes like they were going out of style for a long, long time. Switched over to vapor about 5 years ago. Not because I think it's healthier or anything, just because it tends to bother others less. All my things don't reek of smoke either, which is nice. Having said that, I just use a flavor close to tobacco. Not interested in all the flavor varieties, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/15/2018 at 8:00 AM, Len Cnut said: As engineered by your friendly local communist junta I wish. Cuban cigars are still hard to come by in the U.S. and when they do, are very expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Kasanova King said: I wish. Cuban cigars are still hard to come by in the U.S. and when they do, are very expensive. Really? I woulda thought in Florida it was like, Cuban central. Weren't cigars made somewhere in Florida too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted December 19, 2018 Author Share Posted December 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Kasanova King said: I wish. Cuban cigars are still hard to come by in the U.S. and when they do, are very expensive. That's one of the benefits when you live in Europe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 I don’t need to smoke i got street pollution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 16 hours ago, Len Cnut said: Really? I woulda thought in Florida it was like, Cuban central. Weren't cigars made somewhere in Florida too? Yep. Ybor City in Tampa, Florida used to have a large Cuban population with several cigar factories. I think only one of the factories remains but there is still a huge premium cigar community in that area. I've been there a few times, fun area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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