Wrestling Thread Vol. 3

[moreblack]

Although folks who aren't on internet boards, probably only watch Roman Reigns and John Cena. Maybe they stay tuned for the rest of WWE but probably not.

Edited September 28, 2017 by moreblack

[username]

I believe in equality, so I'm perfectly ok with man-on-woman (or, as I see it, human-on-human) violence in wrestling. 

[AtariLegend]

39 minutes ago, moreblack said:

Although folks who aren't on internet boards, probably only watch Roman Reigns and John Cena. Maybe they stay tuned for the rest of WWE but probably not.

WWE's ratings say they're not tunning in for Reigns. John Cena is the only one under contract that moves the ratings in a noticeable way. Reigns is interchangeable with almost everyone else, despite being pushed as the star for the last few years.

In other news, The Young Bucks allegedly finally got their wish of getting a cease and desist order from WWE. Apparently it's for "Too Sweet", but what WWE was really unhappy about was The Bucks/Cody video where fans at RAW mentioned not paying for the tickets.

Edited September 28, 2017 by AtariLegend

[axlslash]

4 hours ago, AtariLegend said:

WWE's ratings say they're not tunning in for Reigns. John Cena is the only one under contract that moves the ratings in a noticeable way. Reigns is interchangeable with almost everyone else, despite being pushed as the star for the last few years.

In other news, The Young Bucks allegedly finally got their wish of getting a cease and desist order from WWE. Apparently it's for "Too Sweet", but what WWE was really unhappy about was The Bucks/Cody video where fans at RAW mentioned not paying for the tickets.

It's not the first C&D they've gotten. They also got one for "Fuck the Revival" and one for "Suck It." This new one is clearly retaliation for the Raw "Invasion" video, which clearly tweaked the wrong people. What petty bullshit...

[moreblack]

That is quite petty. That's how they fuckin' are, as someone said on a podcast once.

[axlslash]

34 minutes ago, moreblack said:

That is quite petty. That's how they fuckin' are, as someone said on a podcast once.

It's mind-blowing that WWE can be this aggressive at trying to shut down any indy worker who gets over, even the least bit. My guess is the Hot Topic thing is scaring them shitless - all 3 C&Ds have come since Mania, when Hot Topic approached WWE and said "we see all of these Bullet Club shirts, we want to add them to our WWE shirt selection" and the E had to admit that the most popular shirt at Mania wasn't even theirs. The Revival getting in on the joke probably pushed them over the edge, and now the Bucks are getting pretty cheeky right back. It's insane.

At least they have BTE to keep the fans in on it and turn the whole thing into a big ol' harmful rib. The next episode will be fun.

[AtariLegend]

5 hours ago, axlslash said:

It's not the first C&D they've gotten. They also got one for "Fuck the Revival" and one for "Suck It."

That was them joking for their youtube show. This one supposedly actually happened;

WWE.COM: Do you guys associate it more with The nWo or The Kliq?

AJ STYLES: Everybody wants to take responsibility for it. Obviously, The nWo. If we want to go way back, who did The nWo get it from?

LUKE GALLOWS: Japan?

STYLES: Wrong. No, no, no, no, no. NC State. [The North Carolina State Wolfpack]

GALLOWS: [Scoffs] Who cares about that?

STYLES: That’s the Wolfpack. That’s a Wolf Kiss, bro.

GALLOWS: That’s stupid. We’re talking about sports-entertainment, brother.

STYLES: Hey, back off, man. Anyway, that’s where it came from, in my head. Therefore, I think it’s legal for everybody to use it and have a good time with it.

NASH: We were throwing the Turkish Wolf up, so it made sense that we were the “Wolfpack.” Since the Wolfpack was owned by NC State, we made it The Wolfpac, so we could register it

http://www.wwe.com/article/wwe-too-sweet-hand-gesture-meaning
 

There's no chance WWE would be able to stop them from doing the handle signal, since it'd be as silly as trademarking the bellamy salute. At worst WWE would stop them from saying "too sweet" and to be honest it's not like that line is a huge part of their stchik anyway. 

[axlslash]

2 hours ago, AtariLegend said:

That was them joking for their youtube show. This one supposedly actually happened;

 

 

I thought those were shoots, but I can easily see them just being ribs, too. This one pretty clearly seems to be the real deal.

 

[AtariLegend]

Good news for @axlslash

Bad news for the wrestlers!

According to dave, Lucha Underground have found a new source of funding for another season, but the budget will have to be cut. So a bunch people, get to stay under contract for even longer... even those that could be making more money else where. Fortunately Ricochet is finally out after the current season airs.

Edited October 5, 2017 by AtariLegend

[axlslash]

On 10/5/2017 at 3:38 AM, AtariLegend said:

Good news for @axlslash

Bad news for the wrestlers!

According to dave, Lucha Underground have found a new source of funding for another season, but the budget will have to be cut. So a bunch people, get to stay under contract for even longer... even those that could be making more money else where. Fortunately Ricochet is finally out after the current season airs.

Lucha needs to go quietly into that good night. Season 3 is great, but they've burned too many bridges. I also know how UL3 ends, and it's going to be completely impossible for them to explain away. They really should scrap it at this point. It's better to burn out than fade away. 

[ChineseDemocracy2004]

Smackdown should be interesting tonight.

[axlslash]

2 hours ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

Smackdown should be interesting tonight.

Can't be worse than Raw...  What a disaster. Rushed the SHIELD reunion, buried Braun, whatever the hell that Bray/Balor nonsense was... 

Edited October 10, 2017 by axlslash

[ChineseDemocracy2004]

3 hours ago, axlslash said:

Can't be worse than Raw...  What a disaster. Rushed the SHIELD reunion, buried Braun, whatever the hell that Bray/Balor nonsense was... 

RAW had its moments.

I feel for the the Miztourage not being a part of the TLC match.

We're going to see Bray in war paint aren't we?

[AtariLegend]

Sad/worried some think that might of been the last of Ricochet in NJPW. The thought of the him on 205 Live in the future is ugh.

At least Ospreay finally got the Junior title yesterday after years of chasing;

Hopefully WWE never gets anywhere near them.

Also Naito/Okada is now official for the Jan 4th Tokyo Dome Main Event. A super over challenger who's selling tons merchandise/tickets against the super champion (best wrestler in the world) who's basically been champion for the last 2 1/2 years in the main event of your biggest show? Madness! Would never happen in WWE.

[ChineseDemocracy2004]

39 minutes ago, AtariLegend said:

Naito/Okada is now official for the Jan 4th Tokyo Dome Main Event. A super over challenger who's selling tons merchandise/tickets against the super champion (best wrestler in the world) who's basically been champion for the last 2 1/2 years in the main event of your biggest show? Madness! Would never happen in WWE.

Doesn't Naito have to defend his briefcase again before January?

[AtariLegend]

2 hours ago, ChineseDemocracy2004 said:

Doesn't Naito have to defend his briefcase again before January?

No. King of Pro Wrestling is last major show before Jan 4th.

The November show, is traditionally headlined by a secondary title match (i.e Ibushi/Tanahashi this year), it will eventually be to set up other matches for the Tokyo Dome (hopefully Ibushi/Omega). The December shows are the World Tag League Tournament shows.

Championship doesn't get defended on every show and the G-1 Winner normally only defends his title shot against someone they lost against in the G-1. 

Besides everyone knows it's Naito/Okada, not because of dirt sheets though. ...Because it's the most logical/biggest match they could actually do at the minute.

General tickets also about to go on sale about this time as well. While they might not have 60K people in there, the pre-sale tickets sold out the floor really fast. Should be a big crowd this year.

Edited October 10, 2017 by AtariLegend

[axlslash]

5 hours ago, AtariLegend said:

Sad/worried some think that might of been the last of Ricochet in NJPW. The thought of the him on 205 Live in the future is ugh.

At least Ospreay finally got the Junior title yesterday after years of chasing;

Hopefully WWE never gets anywhere near them.

Also Naito/Okada is now official for the Jan 4th Tokyo Dome Main Event. A super over challenger who's selling tons merchandise/tickets against the super champion (best wrestler in the world) who's basically been champion for the last 2 1/2 years in the main event of your biggest show? Madness! Would never happen in WWE.

He's made reference to "bigger and better things" at PWG shows this summer/fall. With Lucha out of the picture I think he shows up in NXT the first chance he gets when the Lucha NCA expires. Hopefully 205 will have died its shitty shitty death by then. 

[AtariLegend]

If rumors are true PAC walked out on WWE before RAW. Still not confirmed yet.

Would be glorious if WWE gains Ricochet and lost PAC on the same day. PAC would be having some great crazy matches in NJPW next year against Takashashi/Ospreay/Kushida ect.

Edited October 11, 2017 by AtariLegend

[axlslash]

9 hours ago, AtariLegend said:

If rumors are true PAC walked out on WWE before RAW. Still not confirmed yet.

Would be glorious if WWE gains Ricochet and lost PAC on the same day. PAC would be having some great crazy matches in NJPW next year against Takashashi/Ospreay/Kushida ect.

He was being relegated to jobbing out to Enzo day in and day out. Who wouldn't quit?

Im not sure that I buy the character motivations in kayfabe yet, and I'm curious to see where they go, but regardless, the KO/Sami segment last night was lovely. Two childhood friends who have clawed their way to the big leagues finally getting to enjoy it together in the WWE ring as friends. That was nice. 

[Gackt]

Neville deserves a lot better than the cruiserweight division he was trapped in; it seems to be a trend now with him and Austin Aries that entering 205 Live is a dead end for your WWE career.

Neville and Cena had a great match a while ago, it's too bad he never got any championship gold besides the NXT & Cruiserweight titles though:

 

[axlslash]

12 minutes ago, Gackt said:

Neville deserves a lot better than the cruiserweight division he was trapped in; it seems to be a trend now with him and Austin Aries that entering 205 Live is a dead end for your WWE career.

Neville and Cena had a great match a while ago, it's too bad he never got any championship gold besides the NXT & Cruiserweight titles though:

 

Neville and Aleistar Black had the best match of the U.K. specials. As a pure matter of technique, if you ask me. Just a gorgeous bit of work. I understand that WWE is the biggest by appealing most broadly, and that being a fan of wrestling as a sport rather than a TV show puts me in a niche market that will never be satisfied with the large-market product, but still, how could you not be disappointed in Neville's misuse?

[AtariLegend]

This was early on their careers, but you guys get the point;

Put PAC against either of these guys in NJPW;

 

[The Real McCoy]

Give me 80s and 90s WWF, AWA, and JCP/WCW over today’s crap any day of the week. I just cannot get interested in today’s product. At all.

[axlslash]

Rumor is Brock vs Jinder is on the table for Survivor Series. So we either job Brock out to Mahal and ruin the build for his Mania match, or we see Mahal lose like the non-credible champ he is accused of being. Talk about lose-lose. 

[Bono]

6 hours ago, axlslash said:

Rumor is Brock vs Jinder is on the table for Survivor Series. So we either job Brock out to Mahal and ruin the build for his Mania match, or we see Mahal lose like the non-credible champ he is accused of being. Talk about lose-lose. 

title vs title?