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So maybeee Tomorrow’s gig will be lazyyy And after all We won’t play Perhaps at all Soooo Beta can wait She knows it’s never too late As she rakes in new dough

Yeah, it does get tiring. Whatever you guys think, just please don't go start making lists again. Remember CubanSkiesDummy?

According to Htgth and setlist.fm, it was not played after all. Idk. Are there no Norwegian forum dwellers?

Guy is as hetero as he could be. Well, we've had lamer discussions.

I'm not talking about tictoc shit snippets, I'm talking about "proper" videos, i.e. landscape.

Exactly!

Crowdsurfers are the least of the problem. What I do mind is the smartphone maniacs. You can't see shit. In fact, standing in the mosh pit has lost all purpose now. I get taking a picture or two. And yes, I'm glad that someone's broadcasting for us here. But all these people... they're not gonna watch it anyway. The sound will be shitty. They often cut their recording in the song finale, i.e. in the best moment. They record in portrait mode. Etc. It's horrible these days, and no, I'm not a boomer.

Never used one, ever.

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Interesting that Mr. B. was the one chosen to be canned for this night (first time since 93, right?). It would have been much wiser to skip TIL. In one of these gigs, he even had to sing one line lower; I don’t know why he keeps doing this to himself. I mean, who cares if TIL goes? In any case, I’m glad they keep their word this time and still mess with the playlist, like in those early 2016 gigs. This is the way to keep things fresh and interesting. And hats off for Reckless Life, that must be a tough fucker to do.

Shocking! I mean, it's GNR, i.e. full pro-shot HQ stream was to be expected naturally, no?

I love the song (yeah, a minority), but it would sound like the Dustin Bones fella on YT these days...

The fact that he autistically repeated the same shit forever wasn't as bad as the fact he kept ruining every single thread he set foot in with it.

I wouldn't expect a new record before 2025. Even that sounds crazy.

Definitely not taking any sides here, but as far as I remember, what the Pele guy was saying is that all they’ll release are these Village songs that have lyrics, and that’s all. They surely have done that so far, and more songs in the same vein may come, but that doesn’t mean he "was right", because we don’t know what will come next, do we. And as soon as they release a different song that we either don’t know about or that didn’t have lyrics in the Village bunch, his theories are over. Plus he was acting like a sociopath... but then, he’s not the only one here, regardless of opinion "sides".

I'll put it here. https://blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n-roses-bassist-duff-mckagan-announces-third-solo-album-lighthouse

They started to play UYI songs in January and released the actual thing in September. However, they definitely should release a single first and only then do it live, not the other way round. The live version could kinda harm the initial impression.

I am not doing that. This is a place for chatting, and we’re chatting about his voice, making assumptions, conjectures, speculations, and voicing opinions, as usual. His voice-wise, what I suggested would be the best thing to do. As much as I love him, he's been ruining what's left in his tank by cash-grab touring. By your logic, we shouldn’t comment on anything. Were they playing the same setlist in the recent years? Let them live their life, they don’t play for people on the internet! Basically, we should turn into Htgth and just praise everything, no? Shit happens, people will comment on it, deal with it. That’s what this place is for, last time I checked. Perhaps. More of a mystery of the 2002 vs 2006 difference.

He did say that, but I can’t imagine anyone would choose singing that (often) horribly in places where normal rasp should have been (especially in the classic old songs - we're not talking solely about the CD material, are we), unless they had to. Plus the thinning out already from the late 90s... Nah, I think even though he did that deliberately on the album, I think he had to anyway. Especially considering that if he hadn’t do that, the difference between the studio and live versions would have been too huge. He knew he was gonna have to sing these songs live for a long time from then on. Anyway, my bet is on vocal surgery between 2003 and 2006.

Less bloated, cracking jokes

As long as they keep alternating and swapping it like this, it's pretty cool, because it's kinda exciting and you never know what they'll play (except for the staples, of course). They should have started doing this years ago. Edit: I know, Axl doesn't play a single note for some internet guys from Iowa, I know...

It’s still a mystery, and there have been numerous speculations. The shift between his 2010 level and 2011 level is really audible. The strong rasp didn’t disappear, but he shifted from the former level to just using it more sparsely. I ascribe it to the fact he can’t sustain such a strain for longer than a year. After all, he started to thin out even in 93 already (as opposed to the chainsaw the 1992 version was). I think 06/07 was a bit similar. And the same could be corroborated by 2016: the AC/DC thing was immense, but comparing his GNR performance of 2016 with 2017, he once again started to save his voice later. The remaining years are a result of the protracted (and unnecessary) touring. The real mystery is 2002 vs. 2006, with the former being a thinned out approach and the latter basically good old strong voice coming back. If it had been just the age thing, it would have happened contrariwise. People have suggested vocal cords surgery, an illness etc. So yes, sometimes the difference between just two years is really palpable, and simply ascribing it to the age factor doesn’t always make much sense, especially not in the 2002/2006 case. Which is why they always only should tour for a year or two, then take a break and probably work on something new...

Yeah, I hope it will be a few of each. I wouldn’t want an album made of just CD2 demos. On the other hand, we cannot expect brand new songs only, that’d be crazy. So what we can hope for is a mixture. Who wouldn’t want that.

Who's Rick Beato again?

I basically agree. Axl needs to get some songs off his chest, especially if they’re good, otherwise it would be a shame if we never got to hear them; on the other hand, new releases should feature their new music at some point, whether or not some of the origins may be a bit historic. They shouldn’t release just CD2 leftovers. We need to see them function as a band (not just a touring band) and a creative entity. Copy-pasting guitars to old tracks doesn’t quite do it (even though I’d love to hear all the drawer stuff, obviously), and I still think they can make better tunes than what we’ve heard from the demos so far. I hope we’ll get something from each of the sides.