Rumored Album Release Dates

[slääsh]

close that thread, close that forum and shut your mouth ! :xmasssanta: this whole cd thing is insane ....

[ssiscool]

unless it's from axl i wont belive it

[ADPT]

unless it's from axl i wont belive it

Unless it's from Universal, I won't believe it.

[posing Rose]

But why would Axl be adamant about 2008? It's just really strange. Usually you don't know exactly when an album is coming out. You work on it and see how it goes and when it's ready you release it. But somehow Axl knows in 2006 that the album will be handed over in 2008? If that's the case then there must be something special about that year. I'd love to hear theories. Unfortunately, I doubt any of this is accurate. Though it appears, as I re-read that thread, that others have vouched for the fact that the interview did happen.

Okay then. Let's play along. Does anyone have one fucking clue about what could be the significance of a 2008 release? Why would Axl plan to do that at least one and a half years before?

Yes, i have an idea indeed. The upcoming 2008 olympics in china!! I saw a special about it on german television and the chinese communist party (as of course) are using the olympics as a big propaganda machine (not unlike the nazis did in 1938). They (the chinese communist party) want to make it look like their country (including the opressive, human rights denying government) is something kina like a chinese democracy.

For the people of china the olympics do not mean a change for the good. Lots of people got kicked out of their homes (nice traditional chinese houses) , the places where torn down by bulldozers and the people where replaced in "communist style" flat-like appartments.

I also think this is what Axl meant by saying "the timing couldn´t be better". He gives us a teaser through Baz Album, and then in 2008 we got the olympics in china. This will shed light again on the opressive government and the fucked up human rights situation there. The whole chinese issue will be back on the map.

What do you guys think!? I´m really serious on this one!!

[slääsh]

unless it's from axl i wont belive it

Unless it's from Universal, I won't believe it.

until its not leaked on the internet dont believe it....i mean look at bach's single with axl....

[ADPT]

unless it's from axl i wont belive it

Unless it's from Universal, I won't believe it.

until its not leaked on the internet dont believe it....i mean look at bach's single with axl....

True that.

[Subtle Signs]

It is the same day as Bach's album or bust! Annoucing a late November release in the beginning of October is still a possiblity ( hey, a guy can dream can't he?

[BBA]

It is the same day as Bach's album or bust!

BUST !

bba

[posing Rose]

Since I'm in a good mood today, I'll ignore the last dickhead comment in your post and tell you that the interview you are looking for is at htgth.

Go to Ex- gunners and start digging through the Bucket threads. Can't remember which one and don't care enough to go and look, but I remember reading it there earlier in the year before J-man gave me the boot.

Just as a heads up, if you're putting stock in it, Bucket also said in that interview that, "Axl will not release the album until he finds the right guitar player."

Just don't want all you Finck and BBF die hards getting too upset.

bba

In that "discussion" you had with Mike Oxlong you mentioned you had another acount at Jarmo´s.

No pun intended, i never even managed to open one (/jarmo never sent me the link to open my acount, while i was beeing "promoted" as his "latest member" on top of his board).

Since i never had an acount at /jarmo ´s site, there´s no way i could have done something wrong there. My guess is that you´re better off opening various acounts using different IP´s (and different usernames)- using public computers. Otherwise there´s no way to search for the posts of beta01 and those are funny as shit. Any suggestions bba!?

[Sweden_Loves_GnR]

f*ck rumors...

[BBA]

In that "discussion" you had with Mike Oxlong you mentioned you had another acount at Jarmo´s.

No pun intended, i never even managed to open one (/jarmo never sent me the link to open my acount, while i was beeing "promoted" as his "latest member" on top of his board).

Since i never had an acount at /jarmo ´s site, there´s no way i could have done something wrong there. My guess is that you´re better off opening various acounts using different IP´s (and different usernames)- using public computers. Otherwise there´s no way to search for the posts of beta01 and those are funny as shit. Any suggestions bba!?

My "suggestion" to you is to just stay here and don't waste your time with that kind of nonsense.

It's kind of like living in America or Europe and saying you'd like to go and live in Iraq instead.

Ya know ?

bba

[posing Rose]

In that "discussion" you had with Mike Oxlong you mentioned you had another acount at Jarmo´s.

No pun intended, i never even managed to open one (/jarmo never sent me the link to open my acount, while i was beeing "promoted" as his "latest member" on top of his board).

Since i never had an acount at /jarmo ´s site, there´s no way i could have done something wrong there. My guess is that you´re better off opening various acounts using different IP´s (and different usernames)- using public computers. Otherwise there´s no way to search for the posts of beta01 and those are funny as shit. Any suggestions bba!?

My "suggestion" to you is to just stay here and don't waste your time with that kind of nonsense.

It's kind of like living in America or Europe and saying you'd like to go and live in Iraq instead.

Ya know ?

bba

yeah, i understand. I live in europe (germany), but i also lived in the U.S. for a year or so. But did you ever check out betas posts!? There was that one post where she told a guy not to buy the CD because Axl doesn´t make music for people like him. And that it takes a certain time tp produce `n´ record it and so because it has to be done "RIGHT". (she did use capitol letters). I found that, along with a beer and a spliff, to be funny as shit. Thus, it´s not a waste of time i.e. nonsense.

If i was living in Iraq i´d try to have various appartments. Same goes for /jarmo´s board. Got it!?

[posing Rose]

Jarmo has obviously had contact with Beta I'm guessing?

Anyway, it's bullshit in terms of Axl saying this - Still, doesn't look promising for a 2007 release, imo.

like i said before, Axl saying "the timing couldn´t be any better" could be a reference to the 2008 olympics which are coming up on china, this will shine a light on the opressive communist country which gives a shit about human rights, the environment (spelling!?) and leads it´s economy in a hardcore capitalist way. The olympics make a lot of stuff worse for the people of china (read my previous post).

I bet my ass /jarmo PM ed beta like a bitch. Who knows if it led him to a great deal of knowledge!? However, he doesn´t even allow people to discuss the leaks on his board, so i guess there´s stuff going on between him and beta (Axl beeing in the "background"). Geez, he (Axl) managed to not even show up to his own recording sessions and told Bumble on his cellphone:

"PLAY ME SOME SHIT" Naybe they re-recorded "Knocking on Heavens Door" and added some shit, i.e.:

"shredding" So prolly he tells beta "write me some shit", or something along those lines...

[Randy Lahey]

I believe Jarmo about the fact that this supposed quote from Axl is BS. That being said, the shit clock is ticking, and Axl's got the next 5 days to make an announcement or we can kiss 2007 good bye.

[posing Rose]

That wasn´t my intention! I could just picture it happening that way. Instead of saying "PM ed like a bitch i prolly should´ve said "communicated a lot by using the PM system of their favourite message board".

on topic:

CD in 2008 `cause of olympics in china 2008! I can picture Universal liking that idea too; now that Axl is kinda back in the spotlight after all those tours. It just fits imho.

[posing Rose]

Jarmo has obviously had contact with Beta I'm guessing?

Anyway, it's bullshit in terms of Axl saying this - Still, doesn't look promising for a 2007 release, imo.

No pun intended, no bad blood towards HTGTH, no disrespect towards forum rules; but let me point out that

beta´s account has karma points of +11.

Now that may sound childish or unimportant, but a usual HTGTH karma ranks from -3 to +3 (at the most).

/jarmo has a karma of +1. Interestingly, all beta does over there is "massive bitching" (can´t think of another term that would fit), yet she´s got all those karma points.

[JEEP11]

I believe Jarmo about the fact that this supposed quote from Axl is BS. That being said, the shit clock is ticking, and Axl's got the next 5 days to make an announcement or we can kiss 2007 good bye.

I'm sure he is worried.

[muresan]

ok, please help me out.

What is the deal with the "supposed" Buckethead interview? Why has it disappeared, even if it's fake?

[KBear]

But why would Axl be adamant about 2008? It's just really strange.

Does anyone have one fucking clue about what could be the significance of a 2008 release?

Oh please ...

There absolutely nothing significant about 2008 besides the fact that it's the next best sounding thing to saying it's coming out in 2007.

Dude, like I said, I'm just playing along. I'm as cynical about this album as anyone, check my post history.

That being said, if BH did say 2008 was the intention (I still haven't seen the actual interview) that does merit some discussion, don't you think? It sure appears that 2007 is out, so 2008 will become the focus. That's how it works in the GN'R universe.

It certainly merits more discussion than your boy Adler stepping in and somehow helping Axl release the album.

Tell you what...

Since I'm in a good mood today, I'll ignore the last dickhead comment in your post and tell you that the interview you are looking for is at htgth.

Yeah sorry, it was a little dickhead. But I was just responding to your post which was a little condescending in itself. Thanks for the tip. I should be able to find it with a search.

Just as a heads up, if you're putting stock in it, Bucket also said in that interview that, "Axl will not release the album until he finds the right guitar player."

Yeah, the right guitar player. Not the right drummer. I've read posts where you bring up this quote, and you seem to think it includes Adler. I think what BH was likely referring to (without having read the interview) is the fact that Axl needed to replace him, and that he needed to find a guitarist that could play his parts. Slash is not that guy. And Adler certainly isn't, unless he can shred.

And I wouldn't say I'm putting stock in it. Just that, BH was on the inside for a time, and so anything he says is worthy of consideration. That's even more so now that the album actually has been delayed and we are approaching the year he specified. It just gives his comments a little more validity. Maybe there's something there.

I've taken a few shots at you lately (really about Adler re-joining the band, which I think has about a snowball's chance in hell), but overall our mindset regarding what really constitutes GN'R isn't all that different. I'm hardly a BBF or Finck diehard (though I like the parts Finck has written). Slash is, for me, the obvious choice, but I think it's just not realistic for the project Axl is working on. Any snide remarks of mine directed your way have to do with Adler, not Slash, and they are only snide because I think the thought of Axl needing or wanting him back is crazy. No offense.

But why would Axl be adamant about 2008? It's just really strange. Usually you don't know exactly when an album is coming out. You work on it and see how it goes and when it's ready you release it. But somehow Axl knows in 2006 that the album will be handed over in 2008? If that's the case then there must be something special about that year. I'd love to hear theories. Unfortunately, I doubt any of this is accurate. Though it appears, as I re-read that thread, that others have vouched for the fact that the interview did happen.

Okay then. Let's play along. Does anyone have one fucking clue about what could be the significance of a 2008 release? Why would Axl plan to do that at least one and a half years before?

Yes, i have an idea indeed. The upcoming 2008 olympics in china!! I saw a special about it on german television and the chinese communist party (as of course) are using the olympics as a big propaganda machine (not unlike the nazis did in 1938). They (the chinese communist party) want to make it look like their country (including the opressive, human rights denying government) is something kina like a chinese democracy.

For the people of china the olympics do not mean a change for the good. Lots of people got kicked out of their homes (nice traditional chinese houses) , the places where torn down by bulldozers and the people where replaced in "communist style" flat-like appartments.

I also think this is what Axl meant by saying "the timing couldn´t be better". He gives us a teaser through Baz Album, and then in 2008 we got the olympics in china. This will shed light again on the opressive government and the fucked up human rights situation there. The whole chinese issue will be back on the map.

What do you guys think!? I´m really serious on this one!!

That's actually pretty interesting. The world knew about this event early enough that Axl could indeed have had the forsight a few years in advance to plan for a release in 2008. It's a huge worldwide event. That means exposure.

I don't know. It's pretty far-fetched. But it actually makes some sense business-wise, and would definitely answer the question as to why Axl identified that year as the year, and knew it long beforehand.

It's also kind of risky. I mean, how do you use such a big event to draw attention to your album? Axl would almost need to make a huge political statement to actually get attention that ties the Olympics and China to his album. Because otherwise people would not even link the two in anything more than in an ironic coincidence sort of way. And if Axl does intend to make the kind of big statement he'd have to make, god knows he'll be criticized by a lot of people.

Edited September 10, 2007 by KBear

[Estranged Reality]

Can someone please briefly explain what has been said between Jarmo and Queen Beta and what the deal is right now? Reading through this thread is migraine-inducing.

[cadow]

its like that bach news album article saying that he heard it many times and that he took ideas from CD to his on album and that he cant wait for both to be out...lol soo hmm?

[Agattuso]

ive just been reading the paper and in the Hollywood column there's a little section which saysHave someone read it??But it's reasonable if the album come out in2008??Who know it will be the soundtrack of olympicRelease chinese democracy in china is really good idea

[Ace Nova]

Can someone please briefly explain what has been said between Jarmo and Queen Beta and what the deal is right now? Reading through this thread is migraine-inducing.

Nothing...they're talking about old shit.

[madison]

http://chinesedemocracy.com/index.php/topic,31244.0.html

Please do not post bogus rumors from other forums.

If you have a legitimate source to back it up, then please post a link to that source.

Another fan forum is not a credible source.

I've merged this with the existing thread on album release rumors.

[posing Rose]

I mean, how do you use such a big event to draw attention to your album? Axl would almost need to make a huge political statement to actually get attention that ties the Olympics and China to his album. Because otherwise people would not even link the two in anything more than in an ironic coincidence sort of way. And if Axl does intend to make the kind of big statement he'd have to make, god knows he'll be criticized by a lot of people.

Just remember Axls statement at the Las Vegas Show in 2001. He was talking about the Dailalama (spelling) who fled from Tibet in order to get exiled, since Tibet is occupied by China. Axl was referring to some kind of movie about him and he mentioned that he looked back on the people who helped him and that they where all dead. Anybody remember 1990 (or was it 89). Chinese Students where having a Demonstration at the "place of heavenly peace", demanding more civil liberties/freedom. They where shot down by the military, using tanks.

Unlike Fox News, the European Media will cover the human rights situation big time. They kinda already did. They also used to talk a lot about it in the past, but since there´s nothing you can do about it it was kinda getting old. Now the entire civil rights discussion is back in the spotlight again, at least in Europe - i´m unsure about the U.S.

I think it´s indeed the perfect time to release the damn thing, even if it´s released this year in /jarmos opinion. He doesn´t allow "negativity", so for him it´s coming out in 2007.