classicrawker Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Thanks to John Bohnam I found this while reading a post on "the other forum".......It is a 15 part article which gives a year by year look at ChiDem from 1994-2008. I pasted the entire article into Word so I can save it and it is 27 pages long but is an interesting read....you can read each year at your leisure.......http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/top-posts/the-chinese-democracy-years-1994-2008/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Great read.Would love to hear the Duff-Izzy demo songs.So much material....so little released music. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Slash wrote in his autobiography, “and I think it’s pretty easy to tell which songs he wrote and which ones I wrote: all of my songs are directed at one person… though no one picked up on it at the time. I used the record as an opportunity to vent a lot of shit that I needed to get off my chest.” - SlashAccording to Slash the album took 26 days to record and mix – much to Axl’s surprise. As the guitarist remembered the following year, “All of a sudden, after the album was finished, [Axl] goes: ‘Remember those tapes I have? You know, I want to…’ He didn’t know we’d finished the record. And he goes: ‘[i like] this song, this song, this song, this song and this song’. And I went: ‘Dude – we finished it already. It’s gone’. And he goes: ‘You couldn’t have done an album in two weeks’. I said: ‘Oh yeah. I can’. You can do that. And it turned into a big fight.”So Axl did like some off the Snakepit stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omg1999 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 This was issued as a supliment/magazine back in 2008. It was bundled with the normal classic rock mag and the paper 'loop' used to hold the magazines together was designed to look like a bandana. Nice item and always makes an interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Matt Sorum, meanwhile, introduced Rose to former Nine Inch Nails guitarist Robin Finck. Sorum later told Spin: “I told Axl to see him and he said ‘That’s our guitar player,’” says Sorum. “I said, ‘Bring in Robin to play alongside Slash,’ but Axl said, ‘I want him to play lead.’”So Matt Sorum takes full credit for Robin Finck being hired by Axl Rose. Well I never knew that!..If Sorum hadkept his mouth shut, then who knows Edited October 9, 2011 by star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I wanna hear the album Duff and Izzy turned in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I wanna hear the album Duff and Izzy turned in.Me, too. Sounds interesting.Wow, didn't know CITR was scheduled as the lead single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I wanna hear the album Duff and Izzy turned in.Me, too. Sounds interesting.Wow, didn't know CITR was scheduled as the lead single.That article makes me think about all of the cool material that will never see the light of day... Zakk Wylde + GnR, Izzy + Duff, First nuGnR formation, so much cool stuff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Axl should just play Santa and release everything he's ever done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiedHands Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Me, too. Sounds interesting.Wow, didn't know CITR was scheduled as the lead single.That was really just rumor at the time. There was also a supposed image from the "video shoot" which was to be baseball themed, and the image showed a supposed Axl dancing with all of these Chinese girls with '02-era Robin haircuts. I'm thinking some of them may have had KFC buckets on their head, maybe I'm making that part up. Can't remember... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Me, too. Sounds interesting.Wow, didn't know CITR was scheduled as the lead single.That was really just rumor at the time. There was also a supposed image from the "video shoot" which was to be baseball themed, and the image showed a supposed Axl dancing with all of these Chinese girls with '02-era Robin haircuts. I'm thinking some of them may have had KFC buckets on their head, maybe I'm making that part up. Can't remember...do want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Use Your Delusion 1 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Me, too. Sounds interesting.Wow, didn't know CITR was scheduled as the lead single.That was really just rumor at the time. There was also a supposed image from the "video shoot" which was to be baseball themed, and the image showed a supposed Axl dancing with all of these Chinese girls with '02-era Robin haircuts. I'm thinking some of them may have had KFC buckets on their head, maybe I'm making that part up. Can't remember...didn't he go to China in the late 90s and film parts of CITR also, before he was banned by the Chinese government?the whole thing is a bit sad really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 whats the trick in getting rid of the ALice Cooper banner that appears over the text from time to time ?I can't see an X anywhere ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman007 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Matt Sorum, meanwhile, introduced Rose to former Nine Inch Nails guitarist Robin Finck. Sorum later told Spin: “I told Axl to see him and he said ‘That’s our guitar player,’” says Sorum. “I said, ‘Bring in Robin to play alongside Slash,’ but Axl said, ‘I want him to play lead.’”So Matt Sorum takes full credit for Robin Finck being hired by Axl Rose. Well I never knew that!..If Sorum hadkept his mouth shut, then who knows Wow! I never knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Thanks to John Bohnam I found this while reading a post on "the other forum".......It is a 15 part article which gives a year by year look at ChiDem from 1994-2008. I pasted the entire article into Word so I can save it and it is 27 pages long but is an interesting read....you can read each year at your leisure.......http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/top-posts/the-chinese-democracy-years-1994-2008/The original article/booklet that was bundled with the issue of "Classic Rock" Magazine, credits http://www.gnrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?id=5059*just saying*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 I've never seen this before, thanks. Excellent article, very detailed and neat. As unequivocal with the events as I've seen. I'd recommend it to anyone who wants to know the history.So many what ifs... Doesn't matter anymore, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madagascar88 Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 wow... I had almost forgotten all the history behind what Guns N' Roses is today.And though we are all Axl faithful here in support of the new band, my only thought reading this article was what tremendous mistakes Axl has made... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Sounds like a ton of music has been produced and then put on the shelf over the years. What a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosonen Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 thats interesting stuff, but also really sad....I dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 It's interesting. It kinda jumps around though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew07 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 thats interesting stuff, but also really sad....I dunnoi was gonna say the same thing, its kinda depressing, even though we did eventually get chinese democracy, will we ever hear the rest of the material? it seems axl keeps getting in this disputes with the record company over shit, the best thing we can hope for is one more album of chinese session stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Great read. It paints a very different picture to how and why GN'R fell apart, and the chaos, time passing by all the while trying to create a new album without any real direction or ideas at all. At times it appears Axl just wanted a new sound for the sake of new sound because he had lost interest in the original sound. Towards the end he became desparate and appear to go back to some original 'old' songs. That guy whole Axl got to listen too all the new material only for him to say, you've got 3 good tracks, thats it. At that work rate it would have taken 30 years for a new album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronartest2004 Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 This article confirms everything that every artist who has worked with Axl the past 15 years has said...lots of meledies, losts of instrumentals,ideas....But no lyrics/vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Yeah these articles are very interesting - and kind of sad to be perfectly honestSo much potential and wasted opportunities. Reading how much stuff was worked on as early as 1994 and so far all that has been released is one album that couldn't escape a handful of errors and didn't utilize the full potential the band has/had... well let's hope they make this next record and US tour countThe articles also shed some interesting light on the transition from the old lineup to the new lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Me, too. Sounds interesting.Wow, didn't know CITR was scheduled as the lead single.That was really just rumor at the time. There was also a supposed image from the "video shoot" which was to be baseball themed, and the image showed a supposed Axl dancing with all of these Chinese girls with '02-era Robin haircuts. I'm thinking some of them may have had KFC buckets on their head, maybe I'm making that part up. Can't remember...It was proved fake back then. And the whole concept was ridiculous anyways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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