SoulMonster Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Meh...so much for "something you haven't had before".Perhaps that was directed at the Russian audience who were in fact treated to songs they haven't heard before (in concert)?On a side-note: It is really fascinating to follow the GN'R fans, you are such a lovingly emotional lot. Being on a forum is like being tossed into a sea of relentless rolling waves of emotions. One day you are all giddy and almost euphoric when something great is happening, like vague hints of new music on the horizon, whereas the next day you are completely miserable when something disappointing takes place. You don't just wear your heart on your sleeves, you scream out your feelings from the top of your lungs. It's hard to be a realistic optimist here because I get sucked down under in all the unrealistic optimism from fans with exaggerated expectations, and when I've finally come back to surface and I hope for some calm weather, I enter a maelstrom of negativity when all these inflated expectations burst and the whole forum is drowned in a current of negativity and bitterness. It's impossible not to feel affectionate towards you all.Here's the deal: Yes, there will probably be new music released in a few years, but no, you can't expect to hear new music this year. Enjoy the tour and the shows! Perhaps. But one thing that defenders were adamant about the US tour and lack of new songs was that that was the first time they hit that market since Chidem came out, so it was excusable that no new material was presented. This is different. It is now the second time they are touring Europe post-Chidem and still the same old setlist. I'm flexible, it's only the first show and was to a limited amount of people, that's fine and Axl sounds good. However if things do not change in the next month or two, expect alot more whining around here.I always expect a lot of whining here, and it is, as I wrote about above, kinda cute. The only justification the band need for touring is that the audience is happy. Some fans here may be put off by no brand new songs being played, and might even decide to not attend a coming show because of this, but I don't think that matters much to the band as long as they can still draw crowds sufficient to make the touring financially viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackvresse Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Axl looks happy Still the same angels around him, allowing him to be open minded and very creative since years.is that Jarmo and Beta?Yesjarmo What's so funny? That he's sitting next to Axl and you're not?Funny is how he managed to sit there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblecool Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) Why they perform the slow dreary Sorry remains a mystery. If your going to do a 2hr show, atleast play the best songs.Still bitching? Most of the bands play only 90 mins. GN'R plays 3 hours / 2,5 hours. How can you bitch about that? Edited May 12, 2012 by bumblecool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Meh...so much for "something you haven't had before".Perhaps that was directed at the Russian audience who were in fact treated to songs they haven't heard before (in concert)?On a side-note: It is really fascinating to follow the GN'R fans, you are such a lovingly emotional lot. Being on a forum is like being tossed into a sea of relentless rolling waves of emotions. One day you are all giddy and almost euphoric when something great is happening, like vague hints of new music on the horizon, whereas the next day you are completely miserable when something disappointing takes place. You don't just wear your heart on your sleeves, you scream out your feelings from the top of your lungs. It's hard to be a realistic optimist here because I get sucked down under in all the unrealistic optimism from fans with exaggerated expectations, and when I've finally come back to surface and I hope for some calm weather, I enter a maelstrom of negativity when all these inflated expectations burst and the whole forum is drowned in a current of negativity and bitterness. It's impossible not to feel affectionate towards you all.Here's the deal: Yes, there will probably be new music released in a few years, but no, you can't expect to hear new music this year. Enjoy the tour and the shows! Perhaps. But one thing that defenders were adamant about the US tour and lack of new songs was that that was the first time they hit that market since Chidem came out, so it was excusable that no new material was presented. This is different. It is now the second time they are touring Europe post-Chidem and still the same old setlist. I'm flexible, it's only the first show and was to a limited amount of people, that's fine and Axl sounds good. However if things do not change in the next month or two, expect alot more whining around here.I always expect a lot of whining here, and it is, as I wrote about above, kinda cute. The only justification the band need for touring is that the audience is happy. Some fans here may be put off by no brand new songs being played, and might even decide to not attend a coming show because of this, but I don't think that matters much to the band as long as they can still draw crowds sufficient to make the touring financially viable.I think the disappointment from the lack of new songs comes from a sincere place though. You have said it before, which fan wouldn't want new music from a band they love? A band they have supported where almost everyone(media, old fans, other bands and talk show hosts) either left or continuously ridicule? If the band(mainly Axl really) do not care about that and only about the financial return that the tours provide, then that is sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 what is jarmo's job with the band ? and how did he get to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackvresse Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 what is jarmo's job with the band ? and how did he get to do it?He doesn't have a job, he's just always there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I think the disappointment from the lack of new songs comes from a sincere place though. You have said it before, which fan wouldn't want new music from a band they love? A band they have supported where almost everyone(media, old fans, other bands and talk show hosts) either left or continuously ridicule? If the band(mainly Axl really) do not care about that and only about the financial return that the tours provide, then that is sad.Yeah, the disappointment is real but it was based on expectations they were not grounded in reality. Never expect GN'R to behave like a normal band. NEVER.This is of course not in disagreement with wanting to hear new music, we all do that and we all agree on this I completely agree with you that the band should take care of their loyal fan base, it is just the right and sensible thing to do. But that doesn't mean they have to début new songs only 3-4 years after the last record, or at the first show in a tour. Many people, myself among them, would say that touring the world and letting the fans indulge in 3 hour shows with music spanning the last 25 years, before working on a new record, IS a way of taking care of the fan base. I am not at all saying that GN'R is a fan friendly band, they aren't. There are many things they could do which would be nice to us, like Axl doing more interviews, releasing old unreleased music, playing more new music live, etcetera. Basically, adopting Bumbles fan philosophy. But sadly, that will probably never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Surprised at no Civil War. Hopefully they haven't dropped it. As amazing as the Up Close And Personal tour was, it's so good to see fresh pics of Axl back on the full-sized stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Guns N' RosesHow many shots do you count? http://bit.ly/J273AS Note: NO Russian were killed in the making of this video #LiveAndLetDie As much as people want this song off the setlist, the crowd still goes ape-shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGS Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Dj Ash doesn't even attempt to sound like Robin, and appears to have come up with his own solo.Maybe cause thats exactly what he is doing? he even explained it many times in several interviews I like the way he changed it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) Dj Ash doesn't even attempt to sound like Robin, and appears to have come up with his own solo.Maybe cause thats exactly what he is doing? he even explained it many times in several interviews I like the way he changed it...I didn't care for TIL until I heard it live in 2010. I love DJs version!Any fan reviews yet? Edited May 12, 2012 by Coma16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblecool Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 http://rutube.ru/tracks/5613548.htmlVideo review! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateChick Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 He sounds great!And to everyone who says that the audience always grows quiet when they play CD material, well this is proof that you're wrong. You can hear them singing along in this video Love this song! And he sounds greatThanks for posting Angeles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 what is jarmo's job with the band ? and how did he get to do it?His job title is Axls Bitch and it simply requires him to delete and ban, for this he gets access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droezle Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Still the same angels around him, allowing him to be open minded and very creative since years.Stated as truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianGNR Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Axl is completly on tune in SCOM. That's a great indication about his voice status and it was fucking great in estranged and SOD also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 what is jarmo's job with the band ? and how did he get to do it?His job title is Axls Bitch and it simply requires him to delete and ban, for this he gets access.Perhaps. But it's funny how Axl posted here but not there lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Archer Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 He sounds great!And to everyone who says that the audience always grows quiet when they play CD material, well this is proof that you're wrong. You can hear them singing along in this video Shhh , that's going to upset a lot of very sensitive people here. I have a lot of warm feelings for the Russian gunner fans right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeles_ Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 http://rutube.ru/tracks/5613548.htmlVideo review! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I completely agree with you that the band should take care of their loyal fan base, it is just the right and sensible thing to do. But that doesn't mean they have to début new songs only 3-4 years after the last record, or at the first show in a tour. Many people, myself among them, would say that touring the world and letting the fans indulge in 3 hour shows with music spanning the last 25 years, before working on a new record, IS a way of taking care of the fan base. I am not at all saying that GN'R is a fan friendly band, they aren't. There are many things they could do which would be nice to us, like Axl doing more interviews, releasing old unreleased music, playing more new music live, etcetera. Basically, adopting Bumbles fan philosophy. But sadly, that will probably never happen.Good post thereAxl sounds great, hopefully taking care of his voice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HB3 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Has anybody mentioned Axl's new jeans? I remember somebody once saying there was a correlation between Axl's jeans and his voice. He had ripped jeans in 2010 and now he's wearing ripped ones again. Hmmmm.... P.S. Hopefully nobody takes this post too seriously, as it seems that's what a lot of the naysayers of the current line-up do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman007 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) http://rutube.ru/tracks/5613548.htmlVideo review! Great review! I know a little Russian. It says......" The thousands of people that were here live loved it"! The news reporter and the fans on the video commented about little winers on mygnrforum.... It s sad , that they bitch about the setlist. We are here and have no complaints. I am coming here tomorrow night, and if they play the same setlist, so be it. I paid for my ticket, and you sit home...fuck off!!! Edited May 12, 2012 by batman007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeles_ Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 (edited) aaahhhh Edited May 12, 2012 by Angeles_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman007 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 sweet pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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