chevelle Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I have the same general complaints as a lot of people here. The set list is so similar from night to night, with so little variation.A similar set from night to night, with little variation, is what occurs on the vast majority of music tours. Why do you care if the set from one show is similar to the next, especially when you weren't even there?For those of you who are tired of Chinese, which is certainly very reasonable as it's been out for 3 1/2 years and many of us heard leaks years before that, why don't you find something else to do with your life while the band finishes up the touring for Chinese?Let those that are still interested enjoy, and those that are not interested, find something you do enjoy. The world is vast. There are other things to do besides reading about concerts you didn't go to from a tour you think is boring.Unless you guys just hate yourselves?Assuming that we hate ourselves because we take a few minutes a day to check what the band is doing and reply to a post is silly, man. I'd say more, but I don't care to get banned over you. I care about the shows because I want new fucking music from this band. I want to come home from work and find a live video from the night before of a new song. I want a band I like to do more than tour the same songs year after year and become more and more of a joke. Do you really think it takes that long to skim through the last page of a show thread and glance at the setlist? It's not a gargantuan input of time that's preventing me from getting to other things I want to do. Writing this post has taken longer than that usually does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I guess I'm one of the only people who thinks that the people who complain the most about the band are the ones who care the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Btw, weren't you the one who tried extorting the band you now defend ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlsalinger Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 I guess I'm one of the only people who thinks that the people who complain the most about the band are the ones who care the most.You're far from being the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RhetoricI like to see that assumptions are now claimed as facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I have the same general complaints as a lot of people here. The set list is so similar from night to night, with so little variation.A similar set from night to night, with little variation, is what occurs on the vast majority of music tours. Why do you care if the set from one show is similar to the next, especially when you weren't even there?For those of you who are tired of Chinese, which is certainly very reasonable as it's been out for 3 1/2 years and many of us heard leaks years before that, why don't you find something else to do with your life while the band finishes up the touring for Chinese?Let those that are still interested enjoy, and those that are not interested, find something you do enjoy. The world is vast. There are other things to do besides reading about concerts you didn't go to from a tour you think is boring.Unless you guys just hate yourselves?Assuming that we hate ourselves because we take a few minutes a day to check what the band is doing and reply to a post is silly, man. I'd say more, but I don't care to get banned over you. I care about the shows because I want new fucking music from this band. I want to come home from work and find a live video from the night before of a new song. I want a band I like to do more than tour the same songs year after year and become more and more of a joke. Do you really think it takes that long to skim through the last page of a show thread and glance at the setlist? It's not a gargantuan input of time that's preventing me from getting to other things I want to do. Writing this post has taken longer than that usually does.i want new music from guns n roses too. we have chinese democracy. let's get the next chinese democracy album! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nambis Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Nope. I revealed tentative plans after a deadline passed that indicated the plans had been cancelled / never approved. For some reason, a few uneducated people considered this extortion and it was repeated often enough that it became accepted fact, even though I never did anything of the sort.Really? I think your words were something like "if Guns N' Roses doesn't announce it, I'm going to do it for them." Sounds like blackmail to me. Edited May 28, 2012 by nambis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Really?Blackmail:In common usage, blackmail is a crime involving threats to reveal substantially true or false information about a person to the public, a family member, or associates unless a demand is met.Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackmailSo you're saying that announcing X even though its supposedly private documents never intended to be public in first place isnt blackmailing just because you didnt ask for money? Edited May 28, 2012 by Voodoochild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanhart408 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Really?Blackmail:In common usage, blackmail is a crime involving threats to reveal substantially true or false information about a person to the public, a family member, or associates unless a demand is met.Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackmailSo you're saying that announcing X even though its supposedly private documents never intended to be public in first place isnt blackmailing just because you didnt ask for money?He didn't say 'GNR, reveal a tour or ill do it for you!' What he said was 'If your plans do not happen for some unknown reason, I will tell people what they were SUPPOSE to be' Clearly GNR is not going to feel threatened or feel like they are being blackmailed if they do not reveal POTENTIAL plans Edited May 28, 2012 by hitmanhart408 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Really?Blackmail:In common usage, blackmail is a crime involving threats to reveal substantially true or false information about a person to the public, a family member, or associates unless a demand is met.Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackmailSo you're saying that announcing X even though its supposedly private documents never intended to be public in first place isnt blackmailing just because you didnt ask for money?He didn't say 'GNR, reveal a tour or ill do it for you!' What he said was 'If your plans do not happen for some unknown reason, I will tell people what they were SUPPOSE to be' Clearly GNR is not going to feel threatened or feel like they are being blackmailed if they do not reveal POTENTIAL plansQ me in. what was Suppose 2 b? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigori Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_secretThe importance of that illegality to trade secret law is as follows: if a trade secret is acquired by improper means (a somewhat wider concept than "illegal means" but inclusive of such means), the secret is generally deemed to have been misappropriated. Thus if a trade secret has been acquired via industrial espionage, its acquirer will probably be subject to legal liability for acquiring it improperly. (The holder of the trade secret is nevertheless obliged to protect against such espionage to some degree in order to safeguard the secret. As noted above, under most trade secret regimes, a trade secret is not deemed to exist unless its purported holder takes reasonable steps to maintain its secrecy.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I guess I'm one of the only people who thinks that the people who complain the most about the band are the ones who care the most.You're far from being the only one.Most die-hard fans feel the same way.There are just a few people in here who like to dictate to others what they can and cannot say in regards to Axl and company. And instead if discussing the topic, they always resort to saying u must hate your life, u are an e-expert, you're full if entitlement, u are a cupcake, a hater, etc.I think the htgth style of worship is seeping into some of our posters.Does calling complete strangers on the internet "retards" some sort of ego stroke? Well I'm sure he's on the verge of some form of stroke. MSl used to be a really good poster - very intelligent and thoughtful. But the last six months or so he's turned into a complete douchebag. He can't just disagree or debate somebody, now he always has to insult anybody who doesn't agree with him, and insults anybody who isn't worshipping Axl and company. His attitude has really changed on here, which is a shame. Because like I said, he used to be a pretty good poster. Now he is more interested in insulting people rather than debating the topic.The guy's a tool, end of! Dude, don't say that. Lots of people challenge complete strangers on the internet to $10,000 50-yard dashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I guess I'm one of the only people who thinks that the people who complain the most about the band are the ones who care the most.You're far from being the only one.Most die-hard fans feel the same way.There are just a few people in here who like to dictate to others what they can and cannot say in regards to Axl and company. And instead if discussing the topic, they always resort to saying u must hate your life, u are an e-expert, you're full if entitlement, u are a cupcake, a hater, etc.I think the htgth style of worship is seeping into some of our posters.i don't hate my life. i'm not entitled. i work a part time job. i work hard 4 money. i enjoy it. i would enjoy new songs played on the current tour too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I guess I'm one of the only people who thinks that the people who complain the most about the band are the ones who care the most.You're far from being the only one.Most die-hard fans feel the same way.There are just a few people in here who like to dictate to others what they can and cannot say in regards to Axl and company. And instead if discussing the topic, they always resort to saying u must hate your life, u are an e-expert, you're full if entitlement, u are a cupcake, a hater, etc.I think the htgth style of worship is seeping into some of our posters.i don't hate my life. i'm not entitled. i work a part time job. i work hard 4 money. i enjoy it. i would enjoy new songs played on the current tour tooExactly.You represent the common fan. I love my job, love my life, my son's high school baseball team just shocked the number one ranked team and knocked them out of the state tournament. And one got a baby due in Aug 4. I'm as happy as a clam. But to some people in here I'm a hater and a coward, because I wish my favorite band would put out new music! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nambis Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Really?Blackmail:In common usage, blackmail is a crime involving threats to reveal substantially true or false information about a person to the public, a family member, or associates unless a demand is met.Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackmailSo you're saying that announcing X even though its supposedly private documents never intended to be public in first place isnt blackmailing just because you didnt ask for money?He didn't say 'GNR, reveal a tour or ill do it for you!' What he said was 'If your plans do not happen for some unknown reason, I will tell people what they were SUPPOSE to be' Clearly GNR is not going to feel threatened or feel like they are being blackmailed if they do not reveal POTENTIAL plansThat is NOT what he said. My first quote was correct. MSL said "[if GNR doesn't announce the news by whatever date], I'm going to do it for them." I can't find the video right now but i'm sure someone can give a link to it. Edited May 28, 2012 by nambis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I guess I'm one of the only people who thinks that the people who complain the most about the band are the ones who care the most.You're far from being the only one.Most die-hard fans feel the same way.There are just a few people in here who like to dictate to others what they can and cannot say in regards to Axl and company. And instead if discussing the topic, they always resort to saying u must hate your life, u are an e-expert, you're full if entitlement, u are a cupcake, a hater, etc.I think the htgth style of worship is seeping into some of our posters.i don't hate my life. i'm not entitled. i work a part time job. i work hard 4 money. i enjoy it. i would enjoy new songs played on the current tour tooExactly.You represent the common fan. I love my job, love my life, my son's high school baseball team just shocked the number one ranked team and knocked them out of the state tournament. And one got a baby due in Aug 4. I'm as happy as a clam. But to some people in here I'm a hater and a coward, because I wish my favorite band would put out new music!i'm a comman fan who wishes axl plays new music on tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 MSL said "[if GNR doesn't announce the news by whatever date], I'm going to do it for them." I can't find the video right now but i'm sure someone can give a link to it.I can't find a link to it, either, but I will upload it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 MSL said "[if GNR doesn't announce the news by whatever date], I'm going to do it for them." I can't find the video right now but i'm sure someone can give a link to it.I can't find a link to it, either, but I will upload it.Hahaha! I posted the link to it in the "Beginning of NuGnR" thread and it seems somebody has had it removed from youtube for copyright violation. Not that he has anything to hide in any way shape or form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 MSL said "[if GNR doesn't announce the news by whatever date], I'm going to do it for them." I can't find the video right now but i'm sure someone can give a link to it.I can't find a link to it, either, but I will upload it.Hahaha! I posted the link to it in the "Beginning of NuGnR" thread and it seems somebody has had it removed from youtube for copyright violation. Not that he has anything to hide in any way shape or form! does he say anything which violates copyright? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 MSL said "[if GNR doesn't announce the news by whatever date], I'm going to do it for them." I can't find the video right now but i'm sure someone can give a link to it.I can't find a link to it, either, but I will upload it.Hahaha! I posted the link to it in the "Beginning of NuGnR" thread and it seems somebody has had it removed from youtube for copyright violation. Not that he has anything to hide in any way shape or form! does he say anything which violates copyright?Only that he's planning to violate GnR copyright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Z9-JZy4lk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) MSL said "[if GNR doesn't announce the news by whatever date], I'm going to do it for them." I can't find the video right now but i'm sure someone can give a link to it.I can't find a link to it, either, but I will upload it.Hahaha! I posted the link to it in the "Beginning of NuGnR" thread and it seems somebody has had it removed from youtube for copyright violation. Not that he has anything to hide in any way shape or form! does he say anything which violates copyright?Only that he's planning to violate GnR copyright.did he violate copyright? youtube has policies. sometimes they restrict free speech in video formhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Z9-JZy4lkholyshit! eveything msl's been saying lately is the complete opposite of what he says in this shocking video. it's shocking. a letter from axl to robin finck on leaks. axl doesn't think much of leaks. calls them soft. dis-guarded mixes. axl doesn't claim theft of intellectual property in the robin email. song titles. msl lists a bunch. sounds like he has these songs. holyshit! holyshit! there his protection and security. msl seems supportive of leaks in the video 2. very supportive. he did say if nothing happened in feb 2011....he would announce everything the next day. the shocking proof! holyshit! holyshit! Edited May 28, 2012 by finck6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 I'm not the only one thinking pedobear am I ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finck6 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) I'm not the only one thinking pedobear am I ?the youtube video of msl talking about the email from axl to robin finck about leaks. his support of leaks. axl's surprise support of calling leaks soft. the list of "unheard" songs titles we assume will be the next chinese record. msl says he will use them for protection and security. msl saying he would reveal all the next day if nothing happened on it from the gnr camp. is shocking. meanwhile, the youtube video doesn't jive with the posts msl has been making lately on multiple topics. two different msl personas. one on the 2011 youtube vid and the other in recent forum posts Edited May 28, 2012 by finck6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 I'm not the only one thinking pedobear am I ?the youtube video of msl talking about the email from axl to robin finck about leaks. his support of leaks. axl's surprise support of calling leaks soft. the list of "unheard" songs titles we assume will be the next chinese record. msl says he will use them for protection and security. msl saying he would reveal all the next day if nothing happened on it from the gnr camp. is shocking. meanwhile, the youtube video doesn't jive with the posts msl has been making lately on multiple topics. two different msl personas. one on the 2011 youtube vid and the other in recent forum postsI know all that, I meant the appearance of the video, maybe it's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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