Axl and Kurt: More alike than they were different

[The Archer]

I don't go on Nirvana forums. They're kind of dead.

GN'R and its forums are still alive and kicking.

[Rustycage]

I don't go on Nirvana forums. They're kind of dead.

GN'R and its forums are still alive and kicking.

Hmmmm. Wonder why

[shotgunblues1978]

I don't go on Nirvana forums. They're kind of dead.

So you come to GnR forums to talk about how amazing Kurt Cobain was and how much Axl Rose sucks? Makes sense.

[arnold layne]

I don't go on Nirvana forums. They're kind of dead.

So you come to GnR forums to talk about how amazing Kurt Cobain was and how much Axl Rose sucks? Makes sense.

If Kurt Cobain fronted Gn'R they would have been the greatest ever.

[Silent Jay]

Kurt was so talented on guitar..... his solo is so mind blowing....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikGco5URbNc

Edited June 19, 2012 by tranconneuse

[Nintari]

Kurt was so talented on guitar..... his solo is so mind blowing....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikGco5URbNc

Art is subjective. Art has no "rules". It's only goal is to create an emotion. I'd say in in this case, it succeeded mightily because here you are, posting some of Kurt's work on a forum.

Edited June 19, 2012 by Nintari

[GnR Chris]

Cobain was a pretentious little phony.

Back then, Kurt tried to make a name for himself on the backs of Gn'R, who were the biggest rock act at the time. He basically walked over and punched the toughest guy in jail, in that sense, to try to earn respect.

Oh, he didn't want the spotlight? Then why did he appear on MTV at Awards Shows? He didn't like pop music? Then why did he make a pop record after releasing a couple punk rock records? Kurt was the real sellout. Then he went on and pretended he hated Nevermind after it made him famous. Yeah, right. I'm sure he loved the shit out of "Smells Like Teen Spirit." Gn'R ... Axl ... they always stayed true to their interests and sound, from record one.

Yeah, you can dislike Axl for a lot of things. But to call Gn'R "corporate rock" or "establishment rock"? Oh, please. That's so ignorant. If anything, Axl and company had BALLS to change their shit after AfD and come out with some of the stuff on Illusions, whether people liked it or not. They didn't just settle in. They wanted to do more. Maybe Cobain never had the guts. The feud he created was entirely petty.

Listen to this, particularly from 2:05 on. The fan is right. "I'm not sticking up for Axl or anything. I'm not gonna stick up for Kurt, man. I think you guys should just let music be music. Let everyone express what they want."

Dave Grohl is a hypocrite too. He talked so much shit about '80s music and nowadays he records with Ratt? Or maybe he just grew the fuck up. So I'll cut him some slack.

[Nintari]

The real reason why most of you hate on Nirvana is a simple one. It's jealousy. Nirvana changed MTV by knocking Guns and the other 80's bands out of pop culture. Between 1991 and 1994, American youth had totally changed. Everyone was playing a fender guitar, wearing chuck Taylors, baggy jeans etc. Guns N Roses were "yesterday's news". TSI bombed. MTV was now dominated by Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, RHCP,STP,NIN etc. Alternative music festivals were born. And ALL of this, every single bit of it, started with a little video called Smells Like Teen Spirit. I know, I remember it. When that video dropped, it was a sea change. I was into both bands and I remember getting shit for wearing GNR shirts in 1994. You were a loser and out of touch if you were still into them at that point.

So it's painfully obvious where this comes from. Kurt is considered a legend. His music is as hip amongst 20 year old rock kids of today as it was 20 year old rock kids in 1993. He is an icon, and has achieved Lennon like status. Axl? A laughing stock. A caricature of everything that is wrong with fame and fortune. A public disgrace. Kurt's music marks the beginning of a pop culture revolution. Axl's represents the end of a musical styling that started 20 years before he arrived and died at his hand.

I don't have a stake in the matter. I liked them both. But reading this non sense, it's so obvious, juvenile and comedic. Kurt is considered everything that Axl isn't. That pisses certain people off and they just can't take it. It drive them nuts with hatred and so they get behind their little PCs, and they type and type and type their non sense in an attempt to somehow change reality. In their mind, they're rewriting what is and projecting their insecurities by doing so.

Kurt won. Axl lost. Get over it and listen to some fucking music. This isn't life or death people.

Edited June 19, 2012 by Nintari

[arnold layne]

So it's painfully obvious where this comes from. Kurt is considered a legend. His music is as hip amongst 20 year old rock kids as much as it was 20 year old rock kids in 1993. He is an icon, and has achieved Lennon like status. Axl? A laughing stock. A caricature of everything that is wrong with fame and fortune. A public disgrace. Kurt's music marks the beginning of a pop culture revolution. Axl's represents the end of a musical styling that started 20 years before he arrived and died at his hand.

Kurt won. Axl lost. Get over it and listen to some fucking music. This isn't life or death people.

Absolutely phenomenal post there mate.

[WhazUp]

The real reason why most of you hate on Nirvana is a simple one. It's jealousy. Nirvana changed MTV by knocking Guns and the other 80's bands out of pop culture. Between 1991 and 1994, American youth had totally changed. Everyone was playing a fender guitar, wearing chuck Taylors, baggy jeans etc. Guns N Roses were "yesterday's news". TSI bombed. MTV was now dominated by Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, RHCP,STP,NIN etc. Alternative music festivals were born. And ALL of this, every single bit of it, started with a little video called Smells Like Teen Spirit. I know, I remember it. When that video dropped, it was a sea change. I was into both bands and I remember getting shit for wearing GNR shirts in 1994. You were a loser and out of touch if you were still into them at that point.

So it's painfully obvious where this comes from. Kurt is considered a legend. His music is as hip amongst 20 year old rock kids of today as it was 20 year old rock kids in 1993. He is an icon, and has achieved Lennon like status. Axl? A laughing stock. A caricature of everything that is wrong with fame and fortune. A public disgrace. Kurt's music marks the beginning of a pop culture revolution. Axl's represents the end of a musical styling that started 20 years before he arrived and died at his hand.

I don't have a stake in the matter. I liked them both. But reading this non sense, it's so obvious, juvenile and comedic. Kurt is considered everything that Axl isn't. That pisses certain people off and they just can't take it. It drive them nuts with hatred and so they get behind their little PCs, and they type and type and type their non sense in an attempt to somehow change reality. In their mind, they're rewriting what is and projecting their insecurities by doing so.

Kurt won. Axl lost. Get over it and listen to some fucking music. This isn't life or death people.

[GnR Chris]

So it's painfully obvious where this comes from. Kurt is considered a legend. His music is as hip amongst 20 year old rock kids as much as it was 20 year old rock kids in 1993. He is an icon, and has achieved Lennon like status. Axl? A laughing stock. A caricature of everything that is wrong with fame and fortune. A public disgrace. Kurt's music marks the beginning of a pop culture revolution. Axl's represents the end of a musical styling that started 20 years before he arrived and died at his hand.

Kurt won. Axl lost. Get over it and listen to some fucking music. This isn't life or death people.

Absolutely phenomenal post there mate.

How exactly did Kurt win? He blew his brains out before his 30th birthday.

Some of what you said is true. But Nirvana was chosen as the poster child for a movement rooted in Seattle long before Nirvana ever exploded. They were a good rock act given far too much credit today. They revolutionized/changed nothing, really, except for record labels rushing to sign folks out of Seattle and slap the grunge/alt label on it.

By the middle-to-late '90s, alternative was a dying act and bands like Blink-182 and their copycats started ruling radio. Pop-punk or whatever you wanna call it. Then along came rap/rock. Had Cobain not killed himself, I highly doubt Nirvana would have been able to sustain the legend they currently have. Trends are always changing in "mainstream" music.

Kurt was like the original hipster. He's worshipped as some idol now for making some good music with nonsense lyrics. He was as big of an attention whore as any frontman in rock.

[Chris 55]

The real reason why most of you hate on Nirvana is a simple one. It's jealousy.

Nah, they don't like Nirvana because Axl didn't like Kurt and Kurt talked crap.

[MB.]

So everybody who's annoyed by Cobain, is only doing so cause of the GNR thing? That's just silly.

I do like Nirvana and the music, but indeed never really liked Cobain and I was there when they became huge. He always came across as pretentious and angry. Now you can say, Axl didn't came across angry? But I can inform you, Axl irritated me also a lot back than. I was a total Slashite back in the day. But I liked both their music and bands and both are/ were extremly talented and gifted.

The whole thing between these guys, I never followed. Remember back than no computers, no youtube, I wasn't really aware of that.

But his death made me angry for various reasons (leaving little kid, talent wasted). He was a lot more in the news after that and only untill than I was aware of the whole GNR/ Nirvana thing. But like I said, Cobain already annoyed me before that, but never disliked the music or the band. There is a difference. Guess, both of them are really strong personalities, you don't like them or you do.

Edited June 19, 2012 by MBRose

[MEXzilla]

I wouldn't say Kurt won I mean Axl could easily go n do interviews but that's not his style he left everything behind. Everything that is said about nirvana should be said about guns but people believe what the media says which is Nirvana killed 80s music when really that was guns doing n they paved the way for the 90s bands. The only reason the media talks shit about guns(Axl) is because he dosent give them what they wanted, after 92 93 he stopped giving interviews or just gave a hand full. I still remember all those articles that made Axl look like a fucking unicorn lol so please stop making Nirvana look like some revolution cause it's not. Their fame was fading n then BAM he kills himself. Axl relevance by now is fading but how many albums has he made since 95....yeah just one album n that album is legendary. As I recall Axl could easily just release more music or he could just do more interviews n suck up to the media like Kurt did before he sadly took his life. It's just the truth, the span of Axls greatness was far greater than Kurt Cobain, simply Cobains success was fading n Axls persona was becoming a mystery thus becoming rock legend.

[GnR Chris]

People who subscribe to the theory that Nirvana was some sort of revolution are flat wrong.

They were just chosen as the poster children for a grunge movement that was already in affect.

They were marketed as counter-culture and anti-corporate. A former punk band that changed their sound to be more pop.

I and a bunch of other young kids thought we related to it and ate it up like it was a big bowl of Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

"Teenage angst has paid off well. Now I'm bored and old."

That line sums up how I feel about Nirvana. I used to love them. I had every record, every single, every import. I still like them, but rarely listen to them. I guess I got bored with it. But as I said, for a time, BOY did I relate to that angsty stuff. It was emo before emo.

[RichardNixon]

The real reason why most of you hate on Nirvana is a simple one. It's jealousy. Nirvana changed MTV by knocking Guns and the other 80's bands out of pop culture. Between 1991 and 1994, American youth had totally changed. Everyone was playing a fender guitar, wearing chuck Taylors, baggy jeans etc. Guns N Roses were "yesterday's news". TSI bombed. MTV was now dominated by Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, RHCP,STP,NIN etc. Alternative music festivals were born. And ALL of this, every single bit of it, started with a little video called Smells Like Teen Spirit. I know, I remember it. When that video dropped, it was a sea change. I was into both bands and I remember getting shit for wearing GNR shirts in 1994. You were a loser and out of touch if you were still into them at that point.

So it's painfully obvious where this comes from. Kurt is considered a legend. His music is as hip amongst 20 year old rock kids of today as it was 20 year old rock kids in 1993. He is an icon, and has achieved Lennon like status. Axl? A laughing stock. A caricature of everything that is wrong with fame and fortune. A public disgrace. Kurt's music marks the beginning of a pop culture revolution. Axl's represents the end of a musical styling that started 20 years before he arrived and died at his hand.

I don't have a stake in the matter. I liked them both. But reading this non sense, it's so obvious, juvenile and comedic. Kurt is considered everything that Axl isn't. That pisses certain people off and they just can't take it. It drive them nuts with hatred and so they get behind their little PCs, and they type and type and type their non sense in an attempt to somehow change reality. In their mind, they're rewriting what is and projecting their insecurities by doing so.

Kurt won. Axl lost. Get over it and listen to some fucking music. This isn't life or death people.

Oh please.

Axl Rose is still very much an icon. It's just that Kurt died at a young age and will always be 27. AFD is about as relevant and cool with youth culture today as Nevermind is. Your average 16 year-old is as familiar with WTTJ as they are with SLTS. For kids today, both Nirvana and GN'R are classic rock and any kind of rivalry is long sense forgotten. The only people hanging on to this 20 year-old feud are dorks on a message board.

TSI? did not bomb, btw. It was a covers album for fuck's sake. A proper follow-up to the UYI album released in the mid-90s would have sold a few million copies. GN'R would be in the same place that Van Halen was during the Balance album, sort of like in their own bubble.

I like Nirvana and most 90s rock and don't have any insecurities with other people liking that music. What's irritating is people who create posts like this, posts that say nothing original, but just spout cliches and conventional wisdom about Nirvana/GN'R. As Kurt would say about Axl, it's just really boring.

Btw, no one gives a shit about Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, NIN, etc. in 2012 apart from their core fan-base. Does that mean that they also "lost?"

Edited June 19, 2012 by RichardNixon

[Eu4ic]

The real reason why most of you hate on Nirvana is a simple one. It's jealousy. Nirvana changed MTV by knocking Guns and the other 80's bands out of pop culture. Between 1991 and 1994, American youth had totally changed. Everyone was playing a fender guitar, wearing chuck Taylors, baggy jeans etc. Guns N Roses were "yesterday's news". TSI bombed. MTV was now dominated by Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, RHCP,STP,NIN etc. Alternative music festivals were born. And ALL of this, every single bit of it, started with a little video called Smells Like Teen Spirit. I know, I remember it. When that video dropped, it was a sea change. I was into both bands and I remember getting shit for wearing GNR shirts in 1994. You were a loser and out of touch if you were still into them at that point.

So it's painfully obvious where this comes from. Kurt is considered a legend. His music is as hip amongst 20 year old rock kids of today as it was 20 year old rock kids in 1993. He is an icon, and has achieved Lennon like status. Axl? A laughing stock. A caricature of everything that is wrong with fame and fortune. A public disgrace. Kurt's music marks the beginning of a pop culture revolution. Axl's represents the end of a musical styling that started 20 years before he arrived and died at his hand.

I don't have a stake in the matter. I liked them both. But reading this non sense, it's so obvious, juvenile and comedic. Kurt is considered everything that Axl isn't. That pisses certain people off and they just can't take it. It drive them nuts with hatred and so they get behind their little PCs, and they type and type and type their non sense in an attempt to somehow change reality. In their mind, they're rewriting what is and projecting their insecurities by doing so.

Kurt won. Axl lost. Get over it and listen to some fucking music. This isn't life or death people.

Sure Nintari there’s an element of jealousy, but there’s also a bit of confusion and anger – all of which I feel is justified. What Nirvana “represented” was IRONICALLY (to use the catch word of that era) the product of corporate America every bit as much as anything GNR did, yet because of Nirvana’s “image” they got a pass. They hit it big once they got on Geffen records (GNR’s label) and signed with a legit producer.

Nirvana was great and all, and yes there was a sea change, but they are the embodiment of the double standards of liberalism. Its rock acting like its not rock and consequently destroys rock. Isnt that precisely what happened? Yea Nirvana resonates with teenagers probably more than GNR but it’s because they appeal to a lower standard; they appeal to brattiness, entitlement, sarcasm, never working a job, being a dumb smart ass, etc.

They’re “for the little guy” yet they’re the posterboys of college culture, they’d probably shit themselves if they had to spend a night in the woods or would probably undergo their own psychological “sea change” if they had to farm and survive independent of the very corporate entities they supposedly abhor. I could go on and on. It’s no surprise that Nirvana generated more shitty wannabes than GNR ever did. Just because you appeal to young people more than another band, or hell, sell more records than another band, doesn’t mean shit. In fact, it may be an indictment.

The other frustrating issue regards MTV. The sea change of Nirvana was an early indicator for me that MTV wasn’t dedicated to anybody or any music, hell even music itself. They were just looking for the next high after the 80s cock rock scene. Enter Nirvana. They chewed them up and spit them out. Years later, they didn’t hardly even mention Shannon Hoon’s death or Layne Staley’s death even though they whored these guys around for years and made millions off them. Then, to be sure, they stopped playing MUSIC ALTOGETHER. THIS IS THE MACHINE OF LIBERALISM AT WORK. Today, former VeeJays work for liberal political interests like msnbc – which is government owned – and MTV’s shows are parasitic upon teenage pregnancy, violence, and racial stereotypes. There’s a straight line from Nirvana to Lady Gaga, and yes that is frustrating, Nintari.

Edited June 19, 2012 by Eu4ic

[RichardNixon]

^

As tired as I am of reading about how great Nirvana is compared to GN'R, (on a GN'R forum of all places) bringing liberalism into the conversation is unwarranted. I am a left-of-center progressive and still like GN'R (and Nirvana too). Saying Nirvana appeal mainly to bratty liberals is as bad as saying GN'R appeal mostly to homophobic meat-heads.

Edited June 19, 2012 by RichardNixon

[sweetness]

This comparison is pretty silly

Kurt was obsessed with being edgy and cool, Guns N' Roses was the biggest band in the world so naturally they were his target. I really love Nirvana's music, but when you watch interviews with Kurt Cobain he's ANYTHING but genuine, the guy had his head so far up his own ass but he was always trying to hide it, poorly imo.

Axl on the other hand wasn't putting on any show for the public, I really believe he is who he is. He was comfortable with who he was, what he loved, and didn't have to try to hide anything.

[volcano62]

Both GNR and Nirvana are great bands. Fact.

Edited June 19, 2012 by volcano62

[The Sandman]

Both GNR and Nirvana are great bands. Fact.

Subjective - on both counts.

[Rustycage]

The other frustrating issue regards MTV. The sea change of Nirvana was an early indicator for me that MTV wasn’t dedicated to anybody or any music, hell even music itself. They were just looking for the next high after the 80s cock rock scene. Enter Nirvana. They chewed them up and spit them out. Years later, they didn’t hardly even mention Shannon Hoon’s death or Layne Staley’s death even though they whored these guys around for years and made millions off them. Then, to be sure, they stopped playing MUSIC ALTOGETHER. THIS IS THE MACHINE OF LIBERALISM AT WORK. Today, former VeeJays work for liberal political interests like msnbc – which is government owned – and MTV’s shows are parasitic upon teenage pregnancy, violence, and racial stereotypes. There’s a straight line from Nirvana to Lady Gaga, and yes that is frustrating, Nintari.

Oh great. A nut job

[volcano62]

Both GNR and Nirvana are great bands. Fact.

Subjective - on both counts.

Well both bands have songs that the average joe can listen to..they appeal to a lot of people.

My aunt and other family members would listen to these bands but I dont see them rockin' to a band like Slayer

[shotgunblues1978]

The real reason why most of you hate on Nirvana is a simple one. It's jealousy. Nirvana changed MTV by knocking Guns and the other 80's bands out of pop culture. Between 1991 and 1994, American youth had totally changed. Everyone was playing a fender guitar, wearing chuck Taylors, baggy jeans etc. Guns N Roses were "yesterday's news". TSI bombed. MTV was now dominated by Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, RHCP,STP,NIN etc. Alternative music festivals were born. And ALL of this, every single bit of it, started with a little video called Smells Like Teen Spirit. I know, I remember it. When that video dropped, it was a sea change. I was into both bands and I remember getting shit for wearing GNR shirts in 1994. You were a loser and out of touch if you were still into them at that point.

So it's painfully obvious where this comes from. Kurt is considered a legend. His music is as hip amongst 20 year old rock kids of today as it was 20 year old rock kids in 1993. He is an icon, and has achieved Lennon like status. Axl? A laughing stock. A caricature of everything that is wrong with fame and fortune. A public disgrace. Kurt's music marks the beginning of a pop culture revolution. Axl's represents the end of a musical styling that started 20 years before he arrived and died at his hand.

I don't have a stake in the matter. I liked them both. But reading this non sense, it's so obvious, juvenile and comedic. Kurt is considered everything that Axl isn't. That pisses certain people off and they just can't take it. It drive them nuts with hatred and so they get behind their little PCs, and they type and type and type their non sense in an attempt to somehow change reality. In their mind, they're rewriting what is and projecting their insecurities by doing so.

Kurt won. Axl lost. Get over it and listen to some fucking music. This isn't life or death people.

It's hilarious to me that people still believe this crap. TSI bombed because it was an album full of covers of 10-20 year old songs with zero commercial appeal. GnR disintegrated because of internal strife, drug abuse, power struggles, etc, not because of Nirvana. The last tour of the old band was massively successful and ended in 1993 years after Nirvana came onto the scene.

I also find it amazing that people try to claim that Nirvana had some sort of positive impact on rock music. They had a big impact, but it was anything but positive. Grunge was popular for all of 5-6 years. Rock music was a fucking wasteland after the grunge and alternative era flamed out. It opened the door for hip hop to become the music of the youth in the United States, and it remains that way today. For 30+ years rock music was the voice of the youth in the US. Within 5 years after Nirvana debuted, rap music was the most popular genre amongst younger people, because it embodied the attitude of rebellion, recklessness, extravagance, etc that rock music used to. In the wake of the grunge/alternative movement was a bunch of shitty, generic post grunge, and a bunch of nu metal posers. Rock music quite honestly has never recovered; it's still shit today in a mainstream sense.

Sure, shitty bands like Poison and Warrant went away, but at what cost?

And by the way, the comment that Nirvana is more popular with the youth today is completely baseless and strictly your subjective opinion. It's highly debateable, given the continued success of AFD and Greatest Hits.

The reality is that Kurt Cobain's long lasting public image exists because he killed himself at the height of his fame/popularity. He was gone before he had the chance to begin that slow, inevitable decline that everyone faces at some point in their career. It's staggeringly simple, and yet amazing that people fail to realize this.

[AXL_N_DIZZY]

The real reason why most of you hate on Nirvana is a simple one. It's jealousy. Nirvana changed MTV by knocking Guns and the other 80's bands out of pop culture. Between 1991 and 1994, American youth had totally changed. Everyone was playing a fender guitar, wearing chuck Taylors, baggy jeans etc. Guns N Roses were "yesterday's news". TSI bombed. MTV was now dominated by Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, RHCP,STP,NIN etc. Alternative music festivals were born. And ALL of this, every single bit of it, started with a little video called Smells Like Teen Spirit. I know, I remember it. When that video dropped, it was a sea change. I was into both bands and I remember getting shit for wearing GNR shirts in 1994. You were a loser and out of touch if you were still into them at that point.

So it's painfully obvious where this comes from. Kurt is considered a legend. His music is as hip amongst 20 year old rock kids of today as it was 20 year old rock kids in 1993. He is an icon, and has achieved Lennon like status. Axl? A laughing stock. A caricature of everything that is wrong with fame and fortune. A public disgrace. Kurt's music marks the beginning of a pop culture revolution. Axl's represents the end of a musical styling that started 20 years before he arrived and died at his hand.

I don't have a stake in the matter. I liked them both. But reading this non sense, it's so obvious, juvenile and comedic. Kurt is considered everything that Axl isn't. That pisses certain people off and they just can't take it. It drive them nuts with hatred and so they get behind their little PCs, and they type and type and type their non sense in an attempt to somehow change reality. In their mind, they're rewriting what is and projecting their insecurities by doing so.

Kurt won. Axl lost. Get over it and listen to some fucking music. This isn't life or death people.

Oh please.

Axl Rose is still very much an icon. It's just that Kurt died at a young age and will always be 27. AFD is about as relevant and cool with youth culture today as Nevermind is. Your average 16 year-old is as familiar with WTTJ as they are with SLTS. For kids today, both Nirvana and GN'R are classic rock and any kind of rivalry is long sense forgotten. The only people hanging on to this 20 year-old feud are dorks on a message board.

TSI? did not bomb, btw. It was a covers album for fuck's sake. A proper follow-up to the UYI album released in the mid-90s would have sold a few million copies. GN'R would be in the same place that Van Halen was during the Balance album, sort of like in their own bubble.

I like Nirvana and most 90s rock and don't have any insecurities with other people liking that music. What's irritating is people who create posts like this, posts that say nothing original, but just spout cliches and conventional wisdom about Nirvana/GN'R. As Kurt would say about Axl, it's just really boring.

Btw, no one gives a shit about Pearl Jam, Smashing Pumpkins, NIN, etc. in 2012 apart from their core fan-base. Does that mean that they also "lost?"

Excellent post. I really have nothing against Nirvana- and much of what Nintari wrote may be true- as it relates to say 1994-1998. However, by the time SPIN ran their "What The World Needs Now Is Axl Rose" feature story in 1999 and Rolling Stone started running their own feature stories on Axl Rose and Chinese Democracy in 2000- it was obvious that this idea that Nirvana had "erased" Guns N' Roses from history like a C- Sunset Strip cover band was complete and utter BULLSHIT.

Both great bands. Kurt, Axl and Slash are ALL legends and icons of rock (and sadly examples of "lost" years and wasted potential in their own way). Does Kurt's star burn brighter? Perhaps- but that's what happens when you cash in your chips at the peak of your powers. Whatever the case- the 94-98 "narrative" (i.e. Nirvana "destroyed" and "erased" GN'R) is an interesting fossil from the past- but nothing more these days.