Randy Lahey Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Are Keith Moon and John Bonham the only drummers that really matter? There's a few other drummers I like, but there is nobody else like those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUnderScott Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 What about Dave Lombardo - his speed, power & precision is impressive ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) No, if only because there were certain styles that those two didn't or couldn't, whichever the case may be, play. To my mind Moonie is the beginning and the end of drumming but he played in a very...singular way that would be difficult to apply to EVERY kind of music, i'm sure he could pull it off, it was just a matter of him interpreting the songs and playing accordingly but the fact is he weren't put to the test with a lot of styles that he just never played or died before they even existed so it's like...a difficult thing to judge. Moon, to me, always played in a Moon style so it'd be interesting to see what he did to something like, say, a disco song that requires precise timing and continuity and also, the drumming is key to like, it being a disco song so if he was to just disregard that he'd just like...y'know, take some disco song and just Who-ize it, it'd probably even be easier for him theoretically to play it straight but certain people you feel are sort of led by the music and i think it'd be very complicated for him. I mean, his drumming style sort of came out of his boredom with the simple style of 12 bar blues and just speeding it up and playing double and triple time and using the space it provided to add little flourishes that followed the vocal melody and then slipped back to the beat and back and forth like that all over the place...and somehow making it all work. Point being, it was an expression of himself and his...fuckin' mentalness and ...yeah, it's sort of like asking a hyper-active to sit still.But no, nobody is the only anything that matters in terms of music, each person has their own singular style that offers something different.Also, gimme Ginger Baker over Bonzo any day. Edited November 13, 2012 by sugaraylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 One word: Jazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 One word: JazzTo which the two words "Ginger Baker" fit pretty damn neatly, don't you think? Nah, Jazz drumming is fuckin' beautiful in the right hands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Important guys? IMO I'd think Bill Ward, Mitch Mitchell and Charlie Watts might disagree.What about Dave Lombardo - his speed, power & precision is impressive !I personally prefer Vinnie Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzygirl Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Tommy Lee is the best drummer ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Mitch was pretty much an answer to Moonie, Charlie Watts was, as great as he was, very much from the classical backbeat school of drumming, albeit a jazz musician at heart and Bill Ward, who the fucks that, Sabbath innit? Leave off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Drama Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Tommy Lee is the best drummer ever.GTFO immediately.Mitch was pretty much an answer to Moonie, Charlie Watts was, as great as he was, very much from the classical backbeat school of drumming, albeit a jazz musician at heart and Bill Ward, who the fucks that, Sabbath innit? Leave off STFU Bill Ward owned. Essentially the love child of Bonzo and Mitch Mitchell IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 "Drummers that matter" should factor in popularity and the ones where people went "I want to do that" and became drummers in their own right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Tommy Lee is the best drummer ever.GTFO immediately.Mitch was pretty much an answer to Moonie, Charlie Watts was, as great as he was, very much from the classical backbeat school of drumming, albeit a jazz musician at heart and Bill Ward, who the fucks that, Sabbath innit? Leave off STFU Bill Ward owned. Essentially the love child of Bonzo and Mitch Mitchell IMO.Sabbath were basically a bunch of pisshead Brummie slags that had they not lucked out with their naff unimaginative band would've ended up their days working in a fuckin' shoe factory (ignore me, i'm being willfully ignorant and provincially minded based on my awareness of the geography of where Sabbath came from ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Tommy Lee is the best drummer ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Joey Kramer! Tighter than a midget's fist! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Hell no, for their time they were legends and rightfully so but hardly "the only drummers that matter", even though their influence was massive. Theres still some great innovative drummers today like Gavin Harrison, Danny Carey, Thomas Pridgen, Ben Koller, Chris Pennie, and Jojo Mayer to name a few. I definitely think those guys matter, some of the shit they pull off is mindblowing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolio GNR Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Neil Peart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Just off the top of my head Carl Palmer, Bill Bruford, Cozy Powell, Billy Cobham, Brian Downey, Mike Portnoy, Tony Williams come to mind..And a couple of old time drummers who were big influences on some of the above are Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Tommy Lee is the best drummer ever.Good fit for Crue, but very overrated drummer. His drum solo on the latest tour where he just plays a backbeat along to some techno is laughable as far as technique goes. I remember people walking out of the concert talking about how amazing the drum solo was. It was great for the show, as is his spinning drum riser (fun to watch), but he's hardly a standout drummer by any means.It's hard for me to say anybody is truly the best, but Neil Peart comes pretty close. His total appreciation for all kinds of different styles, techniques, and approaches when constructing his solos and drum parts is outstanding. I don't even play drums and yet I find his DVDs fascinating because he looks at drumming as an art and aims to "compose" parts based on his vast array of influences. This appreciation for drumming added to the fact that he has mastered so many techniques is what makes me consider him the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Ian Paice is very underrated Rock drummer one all time greats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Ian Paice is very underrated Rock drummer one all time greatsGood call! was listening to the Deep Purple 1972 Live in Japan shows yesterday and Paice is certainly exceptional....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Nobody is better than Lars Ulrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) you'll find that there's a lot of awesome drummers that matter. Vinnie Coaliuta, Portnoy, Bissonette, Peart, Nicko McBrain... and that's just rock. Then there's guys like Tony Williams, in other genres... I think classicrawker's list has a good bunch of them. Edited November 13, 2012 by moreblack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Neil Peart, Cozy Powell, and Bill Ward invalidate this thread.Nobody is better than Lars Ulrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzygirl Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Tommy Lee is the best drummer ever.Do I have to hold up a sarcasm sign every time I open my mouth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Steven Adler is the best drummer ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Waiting for Len to post about some punk and reggae drummers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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