Nick85 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) Can we agree that if it were Slash, Duff, Bucket, Robin...or anyone that is no longer in the fold, Axl or TB should have no problem telling us that?Well, of course they SHOULD have no problem doing that. However, to accomplish that they would have to lift their heads to stop pompously filating themselves. I'm not sure that, say, Fernando could qualify.By choosing to say nothing, can you really get too pissed if people speculate that you were, in fact, the problem?Speculation is just that, speculation, correct? And is it credible to get pissed about people incorrectly speculating its you as you sit on stone cold proof you are innocent here? If you choose not to correct the record, you can't get too pissed at misinformation, no?Agreed and Agreed. However, this is the same camp who, while saying absolutely nothing, has a well known aversion to false information and speculation about what's going on behind the scenes. I expect this situation to be no different than the Better video, Alternate Covers, Next album, etc. etc. ect. Swept under the carpet, and we're all assholes here for harping on it. Awesome. Edited March 11, 2014 by sofine11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Someone needs to clear out his inbox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-GenerationX Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 More complaints, complaints, complaints, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Can we agree that if it were Slash, Duff, Bucket, Robin...or anyone that is no longer in the fold, Axl or TB should have no problem telling us that?Well, of course they SHOULD have no problem doing that. However, to accomplish that they would have to lift their heads to stop pompously filating themselves. I'm not sure that, say, Fernando could qualify.Said this on HTGH, but I can see very clearly why there could be a problem doing that:If there is still an opportunity to resolve the disagreement on licensing and get the DVD/Blu-ray release out, what benefit would there be to going public about any disagreements/issues?Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Can we agree that if it were Slash, Duff, Bucket, Robin...or anyone that is no longer in the fold, Axl or TB should have no problem telling us that?Well, of course they SHOULD have no problem doing that. However, to accomplish that they would have to lift their heads to stop pompously filating themselves. I'm not sure that, say, Fernando could qualify.Said this on HTGH, but I can see very clearly why there could be a problem doing that:If there is still an opportunity to resolve the disagreement on licensing and get the DVD/Blu-ray release out, what benefit would there be to going public about any disagreements/issues?AliAgreements should have been made long time ago about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-GenerationX Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 If there is still an opportunity to resolve the disagreement on licensing and get the DVD/Blu-ray release out, what benefit would there be to going public about any disagreements/issues? This is true. But its going to come down to Axl and TB having some thick skin. Not a trait they have shown in the past. If you know you aren't to blame but don't say anything, you can't get too pissed about people saying it was all you. You need to ignore that. That tends to not be their M.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NachoLZ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 This is a damn joke, they cant even release a concert film, forget about an album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Can we agree that if it were Slash, Duff, Bucket, Robin...or anyone that is no longer in the fold, Axl or TB should have no problem telling us that?Well, of course they SHOULD have no problem doing that. However, to accomplish that they would have to lift their heads to stop pompously filating themselves. I'm not sure that, say, Fernando could qualify.Said this on HTGH, but I can see very clearly why there could be a problem doing that:If there is still an opportunity to resolve the disagreement on licensing and get the DVD/Blu-ray release out, what benefit would there be to going public about any disagreements/issues?AliAgreements should have been made long time ago about this.I'm not disputing that at all. But, whatever happened, or didn't happen as it should have, in the past is in the past. Whatever the situation is now is where things are now. If there is an opportunity to move forward and salvage the Blu-ray release, I personally don't see any benefit in terms of reaching that resolution to publicly airing the issues at play here.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-GenerationX Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 This is a damn joke, they cant even release a concert film, forget about an album Fairly certain most of us have long given up on any new album. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeBaZ Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Axl Rose could have avoided all of these headaches, if he came up with a new name for his new band. Unfortunately, he doesn't have an ounce of creativity left. A new name doesnt solves anything. The problem are the songs.But, we don't know who is the problematic "band member" . Maybe was Pitman because her synths are low in the final mixMaybe Fortus by the same reasonMaybe Ashba, because he was recorded committing mistakes in every solo.Maybe Timmy because that day he had a bad haircut Maybe, maybe, maybe.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Can we agree that if it were Slash, Duff, Bucket, Robin...or anyone that is no longer in the fold, Axl or TB should have no problem telling us that?Well, of course they SHOULD have no problem doing that. However, to accomplish that they would have to lift their heads to stop pompously filating themselves. I'm not sure that, say, Fernando could qualify.Said this on HTGH, but I can see very clearly why there could be a problem doing that:If there is still an opportunity to resolve the disagreement on licensing and get the DVD/Blu-ray release out, what benefit would there be to going public about any disagreements/issues?AliAgreements should have been made long time ago about this.I dunno. This situation feels very familiar. There were negotiations for a video, alternate covers, remix albums, a second album....All of which fell through the fingers of the same clowns involved in this current nonsense. I doubt that email would have gone out, along with the laundry list of cancellations if this thing was destined to go the distance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 If there is still an opportunity to resolve the disagreement on licensing and get the DVD/Blu-ray release out, what benefit would there be to going public about any disagreements/issues?This is true.But its going to come down to Axl and TB having some thick skin. Not a trait they have shown in the past.If you know you aren't to blame but don't say anything, you can't get too pissed about people saying it was all you. You need to ignore that.That tends to not be their M.O.I don't disagree at all. I'll just say "cross that bridge when you get to it".Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Can we agree that if it were Slash, Duff, Bucket, Robin...or anyone that is no longer in the fold, Axl or TB should have no problem telling us that?Well, of course they SHOULD have no problem doing that. However, to accomplish that they would have to lift their heads to stop pompously filating themselves. I'm not sure that, say, Fernando could qualify.Said this on HTGH, but I can see very clearly why there could be a problem doing that:If there is still an opportunity to resolve the disagreement on licensing and get the DVD/Blu-ray release out, what benefit would there be to going public about any disagreements/issues?AliAgreements should have been made long time ago about this.I'm not disputing that at all. But, whatever happened, or didn't happen as it should have, in the past is in the past. Whatever the situation is now is where things are now. If there is an opportunity to move forward and salvage the Blu-ray release, I personally don't see any benefit in terms of reaching that resolution to publicly airing the issues at play here.AliAnd that will be their excuse for not explaining anything. Legal issues, not at liberty to discuss, trying to salvage the blu ray release... And in a few months, this will be only one more thing that just didn't happen for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Can we agree that if it were Slash, Duff, Bucket, Robin...or anyone that is no longer in the fold, Axl or TB should have no problem telling us that?Well, of course they SHOULD have no problem doing that. However, to accomplish that they would have to lift their heads to stop pompously filating themselves. I'm not sure that, say, Fernando could qualify.Said this on HTGH, but I can see very clearly why there could be a problem doing that:If there is still an opportunity to resolve the disagreement on licensing and get the DVD/Blu-ray release out, what benefit would there be to going public about any disagreements/issues?AliAgreements should have been made long time ago about this.I'm not disputing that at all. But, whatever happened, or didn't happen as it should have, in the past is in the past. Whatever the situation is now is where things are now. If there is an opportunity to move forward and salvage the Blu-ray release, I personally don't see any benefit in terms of reaching that resolution to publicly airing the issues at play here.AliAnd that will be their excuse for not explaining anything. Legal issues, not at liberty to discuss, trying to salvage the blu ray release... And in a few months, this will be only one more thing that just didn't happen for some reason.Maybe. Maybe it's what's really going on. We have no way of knowing for sure what's going on behind the scenes. Maybe Rock Fuel can offer some insight on the situation.Ali 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 And that will be their excuse for not explaining anything. Legal issues, not at liberty to discuss, trying to salvage the blu ray release... And in a few months, this will be only one more thing that just didn't happen for some reason.Maybe. Maybe it's what's really going on. We have no way of knowing for sure what's going on behind the scenes. Maybe Rock Fuel can offer some insight on the situation.AliIf this is again something that is out of control for GNR/TB/Axl, then maybe Axl should just drop the name and go solo or something, because GNR seems truly cursed. Apparently Rockfuel can't or won't offer some insight. They were reading this thread while NGOG asked them for some explanation, but they posted nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-GenerationX Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 I dunno. This situation feels very familiar. There were negotiations for a video, alternate covers, remix albums, a second album....All of which fell through the fingers of the same clowns involved in this current nonsense. I doubt that email would have gone out, along with the laundry list of cancellations if this thing was destined to go the distance.... Agreed all around. Having it go by the wayside and simply never addressed again is not the play. This organization already has too many Chuck Cunninghams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huge fan Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) A guy on twitter said he got off the phone with a few people, not cancelled apparently! Edited March 11, 2014 by Huge fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Was my on-topic post deleted (with no follow-up PM might I add) because I mentioned WFA or because i mentioned "the site that shall not be mention" (even though I didn't call it by name)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Why was the reply to huge deleted? Boooo SAS/delta modding strike teams are deployed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashofvr Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Was my on-topic post deleted (with no follow-up PM might I add) because I mentioned WFA or because i mentioned "the site that shall not be mention" (even though I didn't call it by name)?I don't think you sent enough naked pics to forum members in that post to make it valid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfuel Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) we cannot comment, except the matter is being resolved with reps of original members.. more to come. Edited March 11, 2014 by rockfuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 (edited) we cannot comment, except the matter is being resolved with original Classic members.. more to come.Fixed. And thanks for the update. And double-thanks for not using "soon" Edited March 11, 2014 by Coma16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 we cannot comment, except the matter is being resolved with original members.. more to come.Thanks.Just like Axl announced a few days vefore HOF that he wasnt attending, slash gets his own back now.Mean while we are getting our asses fucked by Axl and Slash. Abused and thrown around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 we cannot comment, except the matter is being resolved with reps of original members.. more to come.Thanks for the update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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