bacardimayne Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) So I'm watching this video of If the World live in 2010 that pi2loc posted and I was thinking, "damn, I sure wish they'd bring that song back". But then I realized, I don't. Because it'd be awful. I don't even want them to bring back/debut any of the songs I love because I know he'd do such a shit job singing them. As a "fan" of Guns N' Roses, this bothers me because it shows just how far they've fallen in just a few years. Two years ago I'd have been salivating at the idea of them bringing back Locomotive, but if the prospect of them playing it today was brought up, I'd shudder to think of how bad it'd be.tl;dr I don't even want them to bring back cool songs anymore because Axl would do a shit job on them. Edited June 5, 2013 by bacardimayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 You really think Axl's vocals today are THAT different from in 2010? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yes.So you loved ITW in 2010 but would hate it today? With the only difference being generally slightly weaker vocals from Axl which you don't even know would affect that particular song and this not being offset by the band having gelled more? Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 They're. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yes.So you loved ITW in 2010 but would hate it today? With the only difference being generally slightly weaker vocals from Axl which you don't even know would affect that particular song and this not being offset by the band having gelled more? Okay.Slightly? He sounds fucking ferocious in that Peru clip. He sounded fucking ferocious when I saw them in '10. Today he's all falsetto, sounds weak as hell. Like he's not trying. That's not slightly.As for the band having "gelled", I think a song like ITW actually benefits from a more loose jam-like performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yes.So you loved ITW in 2010 but would hate it today? With the only difference being generally slightly weaker vocals from Axl which you don't even know would affect that particular song and this not being offset by the band having gelled more? Okay.Slightly? He sounds fucking ferocious in that Peru clip. He sounded fucking ferocious when I saw them in '10. Today he's all falsetto, sounds weak as hell. Like he's not trying. That's not slightly.As for the band having "gelled", I think a song like ITW actually benefits from a more loose jam-like performance.I think you are over-exaggerating the difference in vocals from 2010 to the most recent gigs. He isn't "all falsetto" (besides, falsetto actually suits ITW)) and he doesn't sound "weak as hell" on many of the recent youtube videos that have surfaced. But oh well, we'll probably (and hopefully, I don't like the song) never get the answer to how he would have sung on ITW today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm just using ITW as an example. Really, any song works. ITW, Prostitute, Locomotive, Pretty Tied Up, you name it.Though to be fair, I'm watching some videos from the most recent show and he actually sounds decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estrangedtwat Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'd still wanna hear Loco Motive, no matter what. It's one song I think has a slightly more "modern" feel than some of the other dated stuff from the back catalog, and the current session players would do a hell of a job on it, and could even help with the vocal harmonies. Axl could even use effects and distort his voice and it would still be cool.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR 1991 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Now that I think about it, "Locomotive" wouldn't be too hard for Axl to pull off nowadays. For most of the verses, he could probably get away with using his Brownstone voice and it would sound ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm just using ITW as an example. Really, any song works. ITW, Prostitute, Locomotive, Pretty Tied Up, you name it.I don't think we will ever get to hear Locomotive live again, but for other reasons than his voice. Pretty Tied Up, on the other hand, could be played and I see no reason why that is more challenging to sing than, say, Welcome to The Jungle, or any of the other songs which he nails today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 This is the video Bacardi is talkin' about if anyone wants to watch it. Amazing performance. He sounds like he wants to destroy the microphone with his voice. This is the entire Lima, Peru concert:Listen Mr. Brownstone or Sorry for example. His voice is STRONG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 God I miss the 2010 Nightrains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBOSS Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm just using ITW as an example. Really, any song works. ITW, Prostitute, Locomotive, Pretty Tied Up, you name it.I don't think we will ever get to hear Locomotive live again, but for other reasons than his voice. Pretty Tied Up, on the other hand, could be played and I see no reason why that is more challenging to sing than, say, Welcome to The Jungle, or any of the other songs which he nails today.I'm just using ITW as an example. Really, any song works. ITW, Prostitute, Locomotive, Pretty Tied Up, you name it.I don't think we will ever get to hear Locomotive live again, but for other reasons than his voice. Pretty Tied Up, on the other hand, could be played and I see no reason why that is more challenging to sing than, say, Welcome to The Jungle, or any of the other songs which he nails todaywe need a locomotive campaign to get it on the setlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) It's sad that they're planning on releasing a 2012 gig on blu-ray when a 2010 gig would be more than fuckin' awesome. Edited June 5, 2013 by pi2loc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Jesus, that show is fuckin' insanely good. I wrote off most of the South America 2010 leg because he sounded awful at the Sao Paulo one, but god damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Jesus, that show is fuckin' insanely good. I wrote off most of the South America 2010 leg because he sounded awful at the Sao Paulo one, but god damn.Now you should understand my behavior the last 2 years. All things considered, and it's not because I was there, the show in Lima was stellar. Listen to Better, sweet performance. Even Live and Let Die - a cover I personally hate - sounded great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Jesus, that show is fuckin' insanely good. I wrote off most of the South America 2010 leg because he sounded awful at the Sao Paulo one, but god damn.Now you should understand my behavior the last 2 years. No, your behaviour can't be explained by something as ridiculously trivial as a rock singer not singing as good as he did two years earlier. Edited June 5, 2013 by SoulMonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 axls voice in 2010 was just amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Jesus, that show is fuckin' insanely good. I wrote off most of the South America 2010 leg because he sounded awful at the Sao Paulo one, but god damn.Now you should understand my behavior the last 2 years. All things considered, and it's not because I was there, the show in Lima was stellar. Listen to Better, sweet performance. Even Live and Let Die - a cover I personally hate - sounded great.Same boat. I personally don't like Scraped, but I was lucky enough to see it live and it blew me away how much better it was live in 2010 than on the album. Edited June 5, 2013 by bacardimayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Jesus, that show is fuckin' insanely good. I wrote off most of the South America 2010 leg because he sounded awful at the Sao Paulo one, but god damn.Now you should understand my behavior the last 2 years. No, your behaviour can't be explained by something as ridiculously trivial as a rock singer not singing as good as he did two years later.Yes, it can be.Jesus, that show is fuckin' insanely good. I wrote off most of the South America 2010 leg because he sounded awful at the Sao Paulo one, but god damn.Now you should understand my behavior the last 2 years. All things considered, and it's not because I was there, the show in Lima was stellar. Listen to Better, sweet performance. Even Live and Let Die - a cover I personally hate - sounded great.Same boat. I personally don't like Scraped, but I was lucky enough to see it live and it blew me away how much better it was live in 2010 than on the album. Surprisingly good. And he lost considerable weight from January to March. What happened to Axl Rose, FFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 So I'm watching this video of If the World live in 2010 that pi2loc posted and I was thinking, "damn, I sure wish they'd bring that song back". But then I realized, I don't. Because it'd be awful. I don't even want them to bring back/debut any of the songs I love because I know he'd do such a shit job singing them. As a "fan" of Guns N' Roses, this bothers me because it shows just how far they've fallen in just a few years. Two years ago I'd have been salivating at the idea of them bringing back Locomotive, but if the prospect of them playing it today was brought up, I'd shudder to think of how bad it'd be.tl;dr I don't even want them to bring back cool songs anymore because Axl would do a shit job on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 They should release Made in Taiwan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfierose Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I miss the sleeveless tops where you could see his arms and all his tattoos. Trivial I know but I can't remember a recent time he has worn something like that. He looked good in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Listening back on 2010 sound a bit screechy. If the world doesnt sound raspy on the album or at least not like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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