cooker Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 This Album was overlooked. But it was an interesting time for the relationship of the classic line up. How did Axl not hold up this release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 It's just funny that he felt compelled to record new vocals when they had hundreds of shows to choose from. Did they have Pro Tools at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted August 14, 2013 Author Share Posted August 14, 2013 It's just funny that he felt compelled to record new vocals when they had hundreds of shows to choose from. Did they have Pro Tools at the time?I'm actually surprised this actually came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Obviously anything old Guns the label jumps at, greases the wheels. Maybe it was just for Axl to buy some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I think I read somewhere that it was because Axl owed them a release by that year, so that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerman Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 He resisted if I remember right and then insisted that some of the vocals be redone... not a total live album. Just as he resisted the release of Greatist Hits as well. Many thought that Axl believed it drew attention and promotion to the old band. Naturally there would be income derived from it that at the time was being litigated by members of the old unit. I think this was a contractual album and a last resort to clear the decks of old GNR. I added it to my collection but I also have tons of bootlegs that I feel are more authentic and representative of the band as it used to be. It was a shit job again on the liner notes with no indication where each song was played. Curious swipe at Matt who wasnt listed as a member of GNR but as "other muscian" of something to that effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphus Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Live Era '87 - '93 was Axl saying goodbye to the old era. Unfortunately the new era never really took off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 It has the best version if jungle I've ever heard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Geffen wanted a record by the end of 1999 and presumably Axl approved Live Era to appease the pressure and buy more time for Chinese Democracy (as well as getting Finck's SCOM on an official GNR release).It was the same situation with Greatest Hits in 2004, only Axl in that instance actually behaved in a way you would expect, by opposing the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Live Era could have been a LOT better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainman_1985 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) I liked the idea\concept of it but the execution was slightly lacking. wasn't just a live album but a bookend to the old band, presenting them at their best. I wonder if part of the reason he wanted to re-record the vocals was because they didn't have in ear monitors in those days making it difficult to hit the right note at times (especially the high ones). I actually wouldn't have minded if he replaced Izzy's vocals and he should have have re-recorded the Coma vocals. Some song choices I didn't agree with eg I think there should have been a version of Double Talkin' Jive on there as it was a totally different (and superior) song live, plus Guns didn't really a signature 'instrumental' and that was the closest they got. I would of also liked "The Garden" on there too as it was the only really 'spooky' song they'd done. The new WTTJ video was pretty cool and it served as way to 'update' the image of the band. Come to think of it that wasn't the only video done for the album was it? The wiki page doesn't say.Definite Inclusions:The GardenDouble Talkin' JiveOther songs that could have been on therePerfect Crime (Most Punk song they ever did) Would have been perfect to open the 2nd disk.14 Years (Similar feel to Dust N Bones but it's so good I think it should be there)You Aint the First (Most bluesy thing they'd done and a quality song)Locomotive (it's lacking a definitive live version plus it showed both the 'Guns' and 'Roses' aspects of GNR)Live and Let Die (Only if Axl re-recorded the screams similar to how he performs it with the new band)I would have removedMove to the City (Never cared for it and no-one else seems to think of it as a significant GNR song)It's Alright (Same thing)I don't really care for Pretty Tied Up but I understand it has it's fans. Edited August 14, 2013 by rainman_1985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Locomotive and The Garden I'm not sure we're even played live. If they were only once or twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnybebad Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 When "Live Era" came out, all signs pointed to the new GNR album being just around the corner. The official website existed, and had a very strong message board, so there were always little tidbits of news. Plus Oh My God was released at exactly the same time, so there was lots of talk about Axl's big return. I saw Live Era as a way of stirring up interest in a band that was finished, but also starting over.The amount of mystery and excitement surrounding Axl and his new band at the time of Live Era was incredible.But... It would be 9 years before that new GNR album was actually released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2x4 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) Locomotive and The Garden I'm not sure we're even played live. If they were only once or twiceBoth played live a few times. I am not sure when/where though. Here's the Garden 1993 Edited August 14, 2013 by 2x4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dariablue Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 New WTTJ video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadedNightraiN Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) I listened to Estranged from Tokyo '92 (Source of Live Era version) for the first time in YEARS the other day. This after listening to the Live Era version 1000's of times. Makes me wonder if Axl isnt a fan of "Rasp", why elese would he have re-recorded the entire damn thing?WTTJ was the best version ever, suspiciously the only song on the entire album without a sourceThe other video made was It's So Easy, live footage merged with footage from the original banned versionWhen this fist came out, I just remember people saying the entire band had a hand in what was going to be on the album, not just Axl... For whatever reason this album would be made and he could do nothing about it. As others have said, the label wanted an album, and this is what they could agree onGeffen wanted a record by the end of 1999 and presumably Axl approved Live Era to appease the pressure and buy more time for Chinese Democracy (as well as getting Finck's SCOM on an official GNR release).Could you explain this? Edited August 14, 2013 by LoadedNightraiN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopcornAdler Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Show me a live locomotive minus rehearsal with beck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoadedNightraiN Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Show me a live locomotive minus rehearsal with beck Locomotive 6 Tokyo Dome, Tokyo, Japan on February 20, 1992 Madison Square Garden, New York, NY, USA on December 13, 1991 Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA, USA on August 3, 1991 Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA, USA on July 30, 1991 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA, USA on July 19, 1991 Mates Rehearsal, North Hollywood, CA, USA on December 6, 1989 setlist.fm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2x4 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Show me a live locomotive minus rehearsal with beck Locomotive 6 Tokyo Dome, Tokyo, Japan on February 20, 1992Madison Square Garden, New York, NY, USA on December 13, 1991Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA, USA on August 3, 1991Great Western Forum, Inglewood, CA, USA on July 30, 1991Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA, USA on July 19, 1991Mates Rehearsal, North Hollywood, CA, USA on December 6, 1989setlist.fmMSG 1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Live Era '87 - '93 was Axl saying goodbye to the old era. Unfortunately the new era never really took off.Correct! Axl said in his 1999 interview that Live Era was intended to be a way of "saying goodbye" to the classic band so that the new millenium could be focused entirely on the new band. Unfortunately for him that didn't really turn out to be the case...New WTTJ video? there was also this new Easy video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONEZY Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Its a shame its wasn't really 'live', but all artists do this when they put out a live album. They go back in the studio and spruce it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ak1nney Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Its a shame its wasn't really 'live', but all artists do this when they put out a live album. They go back in the studio and spruce it up. Not all artists... but some do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopcornAdler Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Well played, coolAnd what about- Don't damn me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsfanoldie Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Well played, coolAnd what about- Don't damn me?Don't think there's much interest in the one instrumental time it was ever played live. Although if Axl is rerecording vocals we wouldn't have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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