Randy Lahey Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Dexter, Weeds, Californication and True Blood all turned to shit after Season 2.Never seen CalifornicationTrue Blood, Dexter, and Weeds "best season" is after the 2nd...according to most critics and fans....C'mon Randy..That's simply not true. You just have extremely poor taste.Meh..maybe.You like Chinese Democracy..*shrugs*Guess it all equals out..I may like Chinese Democracy, but I still wouldn't try and tell somebody that it is more well regarded amongst fans and critics than any of the previous original GNR studio albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Don't let Sunny bother you. He is an admitted cupcake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Dexter, Weeds, Californication and True Blood all turned to shit after Season 2.Never seen CalifornicationTrue Blood, Dexter, and Weeds "best season" is after the 2nd...according to most critics and fans....C'mon Randy..That's simply not true. You just have extremely poor taste.Meh..maybe.You like Chinese Democracy..*shrugs*Guess it all equals out..I may like Chinese Democracy, but I still wouldn't try and tell somebody that it is more well regarded amongst fans and critics than any of the previous original GNR studio albums.You do it on a daily basis buddy...Anyway the shows you mentioned, their most acclaim season/got press/attention was well after the second season.Quick search on IMDB or Amazon reviews will confirm that.Don't let Sunny bother you. He is an admitted cupcake.No I'm not.I'm a admitted, I don't give a damn if you think I'm a cupcake...Just like 99% of everyone else who posts here.....you idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) Simpsons: Seasons 2 through seven or eight were iconic, but it's been fairly inconsistent since then. Seinfeld: This is my favourite sitcom of all time, but after Larry David left the show it became a shadow of itself. Still better than anything else on television at the time (for its genre), but characters stopped becoming funny because of what they said and more because of who they were. Which brings me to...Friends: Great first couple of seasons, then most jokes were based on the characters. By this I mean, people would laugh because "that's so Joe" rather than whatever Joe said being actually funny. And it stopped being a show about friends when everyone started fucking each other.True Blood: Fantastic first season, great follow up season, and almost unwatchable ever since (with exception of season five, which improved slightly). Lately it just feels like they've been making it up ("Sookie, because you're only half fairy you can't use this super weapon I'm about to teach you unless you want to stop being a fairy" - wtf). Season 4 was utter garbage. The show has way too many characters who have little to do with each other.It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: First three, maybe four seasons were solid, but they seem to be running out of ideas since then. The episode where they tried to figure out who pooped the bed made me think the tank was beginning to dry up.Lost: I loved the whole series and really liked where they took things later on, but I'll admit that seasons 1 and 2 were way better than what followed. I'm one of the few that defends the ending of the show (to a certain degree), but shows that are based on mystery rarely satisfy imposed expectations.Sopranos: didn't even bother watching the final season. The first three season were great, but the show really dragged. The plot moved so slowly at times I wondered if they couldn't figure out what to do with the show. I would say Dexter, but I never really liked the beginning. Gave it a chance by watching the first two seasons, but the show was so paper thin and lacking in depth that I just couldn't get into it. One of the most overrated shows in my opinion. Edited August 21, 2013 by downzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I think there is some confusion here between 'dropped in quality' and 'turned to shit'. Someone mentioned Seinfeld! Seinfeld??? Shit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) Frazier, Seinfeld, Friends, ugh, somebody fuckin' shoot me please..awful shows, full stop. Edited August 21, 2013 by sugaraylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The two that most recently spring to mind have been Dexter and True Blood. Used to love both those shows but couldn't get through one episode of the latest season of either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinaski Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Agree with a lot of downzy's post. Even if it's a bit of a stretch to say some of those shows turned to shit.Simpsons is really the obvious choice. Friends descended into 'Joey said something stupid!' 'Phoebe did something weird!' 'Ross pulled a funny face!'. I've not watched Always Sunny in years. Once you understand the dynamics etc nothing really changes.I couldn't even watch Community season 4. It was pretty appalling. Fingers crossed Dan Harmon might save it.I watched the last season of Californication when I was pretty ill and basically stuck with it because Steve Jones turned up every now and then. I liked the first season but I think pretty much since then I've just been waiting for it to be about something again. I think I like that show a lot more in theory than I do in reality. I never watched Prison Break but how did a show about people breaking out of prison ever get past one season? I've always heard the first season was alright and then it just went awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I agree with whomever said Always Sunny. Season seven was pretty good, but all else after season four hasn't been that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzygirl Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Prison Break and ER come to my mind. Whoever says House, Simpsons or friends have no idea what they are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The Simpsons is the best thing that ever happened to post 80s television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnold layne Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It definitely may be one of the most revolutionary shows ever made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haters Gonna Hate Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Has Dexter really gotten worse since season seven? I haven't really gotten around to watching it.Yeah it doesn't seem like they are building up for a finale it feels like just another regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Frazier, Seinfeld, Friends, ugh, somebody fuckin' shoot me please..awful shows, full stop.I don't know about the other two, but Seinfeld is the greatest tv show of the twentieth century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 True Blood for sure. The original 90210 turned to shit after HS ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Scrubs turned to shit after Elliott & JD got married. Even though Donald Faison is one of my favorite actors, he alone couldn't save the show after most of the regulars left.Married With Children turned to shit once they added Seven. Don't all sitcoms turn to shit when they add a new kid to the cast?The Office turned to shit after Carell left, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) Seinfeld: This is my favourite sitcom of all time, but after Larry David left the show it became a shadow of itself. Still better than anything else on television at the time (for its genre), but characters stopped becoming funny because of what they said and more because of who they were.Glad to see sitcoms finally mentioned, but I disagree with Seinfeld. Take for instance the final season:The backwards episode, unique with a great storyline.Good naked and bad naked, the germophobe.Elaine's new boyfriend - is he black?Serenity Now.The Merv Kramer Show.Sleeping with the maid.I never stopped enjoying that show, even without David they could have gone on for another 5 years or more. Edited August 21, 2013 by The Linguini Occurrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturginho Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) Agree with a lot of downzy's post. Even if it's a bit of a stretch to say some of those shows turned to shit.Simpsons is really the obvious choice. Friends descended into 'Joey said something stupid!' 'Phoebe did something weird!' 'Ross pulled a funny face!'. I've not watched Always Sunny in years. Once you understand the dynamics etc nothing really changes.I couldn't even watch Community season 4. It was pretty appalling. Fingers crossed Dan Harmon might save it.I watched the last season of Californication when I was pretty ill and basically stuck with it because Steve Jones turned up every now and then. I liked the first season but I think pretty much since then I've just been waiting for it to be about something again. I think I like that show a lot more in theory than I do in reality. I never watched Prison Break but how did a show about people breaking out of prison ever get past one season? I've always heard the first season was alright and then it just went awful.The first season of Prison Break was genius, the second season is actually them out of prison and on the run, it wasnt as good as the first but was still very good, the third season was when it went to shit, I struggled my way through that hoping that the fourth would be better but instead of getting better it got even worse and i stopped watching and to this day dont know what happened in the end Edited August 21, 2013 by sturginho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Scrubs turned to shit after Elliott & JD got married. Even though Donald Faison is one of my favorite actors, he alone couldn't save the show after most of the regulars left.Married With Children turned to shit once they added Seven. Don't all sitcoms turn to shit when they add a new kid to the cast?The Office turned to shit after Carell left, obviously.The last season of Scrubs was a spin-off in all but name though, wasn't it? I didnt't watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Linguini Occurrence Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The last season of Scrubs was a spin-off in all but name though, wasn't it? I didnt't watch it.Basically, even the setting was changed to a school instead of a hospital. They just continued to use the same original show name as a way to squeeze viewers out of the old show's fans.Hmmmmm ... sounds familiar, dunnit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The Office turned to shit after Carell left, obviously.They had no idea what to do with that show once he left. I got through maybe half the season that followed his departure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The last season of Scrubs was a spin-off in all but name though, wasn't it? I didnt't watch it. Basically, even the setting was changed to a school instead of a hospital. They just continued to use the same original show name as a way to squeeze viewers out of the old show's fans.Hmmmmm ... sounds familiar, dunnit? There's an important distinction to be made: the decision to keep the name was made by the executives, not the show creators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Although technically a seperate show, Ashes to Ashes was not a patch on Life on Mars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 (edited) Seinfeld: This is my favourite sitcom of all time, but after Larry David left the show it became a shadow of itself. Still better than anything else on television at the time (for its genre), but characters stopped becoming funny because of what they said and more because of who they were.Glad to see sitcoms finally mentioned, but I disagree with Seinfeld. Take for instance the final season:The backwards episode, unique with a great storyline.Good naked and bad naked, the germophobe.Elaine's new boyfriend - is he black?Serenity Now.The Merv Kramer Show.Sleeping with the maid.I never stopped enjoying that show, even without David they could have gone on for another 5 years or more.Yeah, there were some memorable characters and storylines from season seven onward, but it just felt like a shadow of itself afterward. Characters became glorified versions of themselves. George seemed like a very real, very neurotic person in the first five seasons, after that he was just a cartoon. Those episodes you list were great (or had some great moments), but they weren't iconic like the contest, the parking lot, the chinese restaurant, the airport pick up, b.o., George pretending to a be a marine biologist. When you think of the truly great Seinfeld episodes, most would identify such episodes that belong to the first five seasons.Again, I loved the entire show, but the last two or three season just don't measure up to the first four or five. Edited August 21, 2013 by downzy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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