Rovim Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I'm just going to use this thread to figure out how I feel about CD since the whole thing is a spampost shit show. Might as well turn this into the General GNR Discussion Thread.Anyway, I was just listening to Sorry in the car. Enjoying the instruments, but my god Axl makes it tough with some of those lyrics. Like after the solo, for example. You have this gorgeous, emotionally intricate solo that develops and changes over time, and then you just kind of feel smacked over the head with stupid when Axl chimes in with, "You close your eyes, All well and good, I'll kick your ass, Like I said that I would." Really? That's where you go with the song at that point? Fuckin' terrible. Then there's this shit: "You don't know why, I won't give in, To Hell with the pressure, I'm not caving in." I'm dead serious when I say this, if one of my tenth graders turned in a sentence as redundant and flat as that I'd send them back for a rewrite. Fuck me. He had 14 years to edit this crap.You've got a good point there. The lyrics to Sorry are childish and kinda insane. Bucket's solo is a thing of beauty. So much emotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Holy shit Rovim spamming this thread is way worse than the childish discussion that made this thread get locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Holy shit Rovim spamming this thread is way worse than the childish discussion that made this thread get locked.It's funny how you're not even aware enough to realize you're the only one here that is spamming this thread. Grow up already. Let go of your child-like ways. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I was not impressed with Chinese Democracy's lyrics in general. 'IRS' contains a particularly cringe-worthy example of trying to rhythm together nouns,Gonna call the presidentGonna call a private eyeGonna get the IRSGonna need the FBII also always cringe at, ''sitting in a Chinese Stew''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Lyrics are one of the worst parts of Chinese Democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I was not impressed with Chinese Democracy's lyrics in general. 'IRS' contains a particularly cringe-worthy example of trying to rhythm together nouns,Gonna call the presidentGonna call a private eyeGonna get the IRSGonna need the FBI I also always cringe at, ''sitting in a Chinese Stew''.My problem with that? I always come to this.... If you're willing and able to call the president, the IRS, and the FBI, why the fuck would you have any need for a private eye? just comes off as more lazy and uninspired writing on Axl's part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) I just read the last pages, Jesus Christ, what a spam shitposting show. Edited December 19, 2014 by Nosaj Thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) I was not impressed with Chinese Democracy's lyrics in general. 'IRS' contains a particularly cringe-worthy example of trying to rhythm together nouns,Gonna call the presidentGonna call a private eyeGonna get the IRSGonna need the FBI I also always cringe at, ''sitting in a Chinese Stew''.My problem with that? I always come to this.... If you're willing and able to call the president, the IRS, and the FBI, why the fuck would you have any need for a private eye? just comes off as more lazy and uninspired writing on Axl's part.The lyrics on some of the verses in I.R.S are good though. The way Axl sings the "it's such a crime" part is cool. Edited December 19, 2014 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I was not impressed with Chinese Democracy's lyrics in general. 'IRS' contains a particularly cringe-worthy example of trying to rhythm together nouns,Gonna call the presidentGonna call a private eyeGonna get the IRSGonna need the FBI I also always cringe at, ''sitting in a Chinese Stew''.My problem with that? I always come to this.... If you're willing and able to call the president, the IRS, and the FBI, why the fuck would you have any need for a private eye? just comes off as more lazy and uninspired writing on Axl's part. The lyrics on some of the verses in I.R.S are good though. The way Axl sings the "it's such a crime part" is cool.Some of the better lyrics on the album are on IRS actually. That chorus just boggles my mind. No one told him it was shit? Not one person was like, "Axl, the rest of the song is pretty cool, but that chorus is fucking embarrassing"? How does no one say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Sorry is the Get in the Ring of CD. But I think in 20-30 years time when Axl is dead those rants and the craziness of Sorry or Get in the Ring will live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Wonder what CD 2 will be called? I hope we get it next year. Maybe Axl will give us a little update at Christmas time, just before he pours the gravy on his Turkey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Hopefully he drinks a bottle of JD on Christmas Eve and leaks the whole album under the title "Ron's Beard" IRS and Sorry lyrics are no worse than Don't Cry and Don't Damn Me. Sometimes Axl goes direct. It's not exactly poetry but it gets the message over pretty clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 IRS could have been "the" hit single off of the album, imo, if it had better lyrics. The chorus is mind-blowingly bad, I'm amazed that somebody in the camp didn't point this out.IRS is catchy as hell, got that amazing scream at the end. With better lyrics, this could have been the catchy-poppish-rock single that the band needed.BetterIRS (with better lyrics)Street of DreamsTwatBut I think CD was a horrible choice as a single. The most generic and boring rock song on the album. I had friends that listen to Chinese and said "bleh, no thanks." I had to force them to listen to more tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 IRS could have been "the" hit single off of the album, imo, if it had better lyrics. The chorus is mind-blowingly bad, I'm amazed that somebody in the camp didn't point this out.IRS is catchy as hell, got that amazing scream at the end. With better lyrics, this could have been the catchy-poppish-rock single that the band needed.BetterIRS (with better lyrics)Street of DreamsTwatBut I think CD was a horrible choice as a single. The most generic and boring rock song on the album. I had friends that listen to Chinese and said "bleh, no thanks." I had to force them to listen to more tracks.The 2001 version of CD with no stupid intro, more punkish and less bloated sound and shorter solo was much better IMO. Still just a generic song with crap lyrics of course but much more enjoyable, could have been a good single by early 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 IRS could have been "the" hit single off of the album, imo, if it had better lyrics. The chorus is mind-blowingly bad, I'm amazed that somebody in the camp didn't point this out.IRS is catchy as hell, got that amazing scream at the end. With better lyrics, this could have been the catchy-poppish-rock single that the band needed.BetterIRS (with better lyrics)Street of DreamsTwatBut I think CD was a horrible choice as a single. The most generic and boring rock song on the album. I had friends that listen to Chinese and said "bleh, no thanks." I had to force them to listen to more tracks.The 2001 version of CD with no stupid intro, more punkish and less bloated sound and shorter solo was much better IMO. Still just a generic song with crap lyrics of course but much more enjoyable, could have been a good single by early 2000s.No, f*ck you and your mother. You don't know sh*t about music. You have ears, but they clearly don't work. Why don't you go suck slash's d*ck.(Isn't that what we're supposed to say if we disagree about a song?).I've always chuckled at the fact that the three songs Axl seems to love the most (at least initially) are the three songs that I hated or find extremely boring and uninspired - CD, Sorry and Madagascar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 IRS could have been "the" hit single off of the album, imo, if it had better lyrics. The chorus is mind-blowingly bad, I'm amazed that somebody in the camp didn't point this out.IRS is catchy as hell, got that amazing scream at the end. With better lyrics, this could have been the catchy-poppish-rock single that the band needed.BetterIRS (with better lyrics)Street of DreamsTwatBut I think CD was a horrible choice as a single. The most generic and boring rock song on the album. I had friends that listen to Chinese and said "bleh, no thanks." I had to force them to listen to more tracks.The 2001 version of CD with no stupid intro, more punkish and less bloated sound and shorter solo was much better IMO. Still just a generic song with crap lyrics of course but much more enjoyable, could have been a good single by early 2000s.No, f*ck you and your mother. You don't know sh*t about music. You have ears, but they clearly don't work. Why don't you go suck slash's d*ck.(Isn't that what we're supposed to say if we disagree about a song?).I've always chuckled at the fact that the three songs Axl seems to love the most (at least initially) are the three songs that I hated or find extremely boring and uninspired - CD, Sorry and Madagascar.You forgot to mention how my life sucks and how I come here every day to bash a band I don't even like, but that's ok.Speaking of Sorry, Magisme's description of how its dramatic solo ends and then Axl starts singing "Ill kick your ass like I said that I would" made me laugh earlier. Horrible, horrible lyrics and song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Why the fuck can't I find Chinese Democracy in Dollar Tree? All they have is fucking KeKe Palmer, whoever the fuck that is.i wish i could find it in my dollar tree i do need a new copy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) IRS could have been "the" hit single off of the album, imo, if it had better lyrics. The chorus is mind-blowingly bad, I'm amazed that somebody in the camp didn't point this out.IRS is catchy as hell, got that amazing scream at the end. With better lyrics, this could have been the catchy-poppish-rock single that the band needed.BetterIRS (with better lyrics)Street of DreamsTwatBut I think CD was a horrible choice as a single. The most generic and boring rock song on the album. I had friends that listen to Chinese and said "bleh, no thanks." I had to force them to listen to more tracks.The 2001 version of CD with no stupid intro, more punkish and less bloated sound and shorter solo was much better IMO. Still just a generic song with crap lyrics of course but much more enjoyable, could have been a good single by early 2000s.I've always chuckled at the fact that the three songs Axl seems to love the most (at least initially) are the three songs that I hated or find extremely boring and uninspired - CD, Sorry and Madagascar.No, he said his 3 favorites from Chinese are Better, Street Of Dreams, and There Was A Time.I was not impressed with Chinese Democracy's lyrics in general. 'IRS' contains a particularly cringe-worthy example of trying to rhythm together nouns,Gonna call the presidentGonna call a private eyeGonna get the IRSGonna need the FBI I also always cringe at, ''sitting in a Chinese Stew''.My problem with that? I always come to this.... If you're willing and able to call the president, the IRS, and the FBI, why the fuck would you have any need for a private eye? just comes off as more lazy and uninspired writing on Axl's part. The lyrics on some of the verses in I.R.S are good though. The way Axl sings the "it's such a crime part" is cool.Some of the better lyrics on the album are on IRS actually. That chorus just boggles my mind. No one told him it was shit? Not one person was like, "Axl, the rest of the song is pretty cool, but that chorus is fucking embarrassing"? How does no one say that?All cautions made. Edited December 19, 2014 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I was not impressed with Chinese Democracy's lyrics in general. 'IRS' contains a particularly cringe-worthy example of trying to rhythm together nouns,Gonna call the presidentGonna call a private eyeGonna get the IRSGonna need the FBILike, what did this person do to him that he needs to involve all these Government branches at once to help him deal with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) I was not impressed with Chinese Democracy's lyrics in general. 'IRS' contains a particularly cringe-worthy example of trying to rhythm together nouns,Gonna call the presidentGonna call a private eyeGonna get the IRSGonna need the FBILike, what did this person do to him that he needs to involve all these Government branches at once to help him deal with it?He hit Axl's mother. Edited December 19, 2014 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Rovin - where/when did he say that? I'm not disputing it, I've just never heard that before.CD was the first new song they started playing live and was the initial single released, as well as still being played today, and as well as replacing Jungle (the best concert opener of all time, any band) as the song to open every concert with.......I'm guessing it's one of his favorites.And Madagascar is also one of the songs that Axl debuted years before the album came out.Sorry seemed to have pretty personal lyrics. They don't even play SOD and Twat that often anymore --- you'd think if those were two of his favorites then he'd play them live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Rovin - where/when did he say that? I'm not disputing it, I've just never heard that before.CD was the first new song they started playing live and was the initial single released, as well as still being played today, and as well as replacing Jungle (the best concert opener of all time, any band) as the song to open every concert with.......I'm guessing it's one of his favorites.And Madagascar is also one of the songs that Axl debuted years before the album came out.Sorry seemed to have pretty personal lyrics. They don't even play SOD and Twat that often anymore --- you'd think if those were two of his favorites then he'd play them live.It's also about being able to sing them. There Was A Time especially. And he 100% said that in some 2006 interview. Not sure exactly which. They used to play If The World which is pretty difficult to pull off vocally. There are songs on the set list you don't touch, you must play them at every show and then there are switchable songs that have kinda the same function as another batch of songs so you play that instead if that makes sense. Edited December 19, 2014 by Rovim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Sold more than 1 million copies in Europe alone within just 3 months of release.There were some people who claimed at the time of release, that they picked up 10 copies ?Then there were those that got the CD and the Vinyl. I wonder what the number is when it comes to, how many people own the record, weather it be 1 or 10 copies.On top of that, there's the Down-loaders / Free-loaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Axls favorite he said was TWAT. Supposedly the band wanted Shacklers as a single. Better also got a video and I remember Axl playing in public in 2006 saying the record is coming. ShacklersIf the WorldThere was a TimeCatcherChi DemBetterSODScraped SorryThis I LoveAll seem like singles. Edited December 20, 2014 by wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 IRS and Sorry lyrics are no worse than Don't Cry and Don't Damn Me.Wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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