gunsfanoldie Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I loved post-2006 GN'R. They're still the best band I've ever seen live, of all the hundreds I've seen... They're one of the few bands I would travel to other countries to see. I loved the build up around the release of the record, I would happily defend them all day against all the critics who had written them off because of who they were, rather than going to a show and experiencing the atmosphere they created. They were my Guns N' Roses.You were fine right up until there. And thats what I don't like. People make these great posts and then prove to show they are just as crazy and one sided as everyone else. You are welcome to your opinion about Guns, but your argument is completely negated, at least to me, by saying they are one of "the best bands you've ever seen live". There's just so much wrong with that statement, or just so blatantly one sided about it. I don't think its possible to say you're upset everyone doesn't take them seriously and then say they're the only band you'd travel for and defend the "build up" to Chinese (which wasn't build up, it was delays). Clearly you're just as jaded as those saying they don't like them.Why its not possible to be levelheaded about GNR stuff and say you like some and don't like others I'll never know. Everyone has to blindly praise one side or the another. Its so annoying. Cause the bottom line is a lot of what you like about this current band, I'm guessing, is you like the show, which admit it or not, has a lot to do with the music that was made by different people 23 years ago. You're loving a show thats made up of all the people that aren't there anymore and then you're sad people don't give the new lineup credit? Its because it isn't there own stuff. So be reasonable about what you like. You like these guys and this is YOUR GNR. Thats fine and completely reasonable. But don't say they are the greatest band in the world and don't say Chinese is anything other than a science experiment gone wrong in terms of how it was handled for decades cause it makes you sound just as wrong as those you're ranting against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Name is Trinity Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 There's gonna be some pissed off folks around here when in 2-4 months NuGNR announce their new guitarists and it ain't Slash.Mark my words.not really. we know a reunion will happen sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsfanoldie Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 axl's twitter is on fireWhile Slash has tweeted twice since as if nothing's happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I loved post-2006 GN'R. They're still the best band I've ever seen live, of all the hundreds I've seen... They're one of the few bands I would travel to other countries to see. I loved the build up around the release of the record, I would happily defend them all day against all the critics who had written them off because of who they were, rather than going to a show and experiencing the atmosphere they created. They were my Guns N' Roses.You were fine right up until there. And thats what I don't like. People make these great posts and then prove to show they are just as crazy and one sided as everyone else. You are welcome to your opinion about Guns, but your argument is completely negated, at least to me, by saying they are one of "the best bands you've ever seen live". There's just so much wrong with that statement, or just so blatantly one sided about it. I don't think its possible to say you're upset everyone doesn't take them seriously and then say they're the only band you'd travel for and defend the "build up" to Chinese (which wasn't build up, it was delays). Clearly you're just as jaded as those saying they don't like them.Why its not possible to be levelheaded about GNR stuff and say you like some and don't like others I'll never know. Everyone has to blindly praise one side or the another. Its so annoying. Cause the bottom line is a lot of what you like about this current band, I'm guessing, is you like the show, which admit it or not, has a lot to do with the music that was made by different people 23 years ago. You're loving a show thats made up of all the people that aren't there anymore and then you're sad people don't give the new lineup credit? Its because it isn't there own stuff. So be reasonable about what you like. You like these guys and this is YOUR GNR. Thats fine and completely reasonable. But don't say they are the greatest band in the world and don't say Chinese is anything other than a science experiment gone wrong in terms of how it was handled for decades cause it makes you sound just as wrong as those you're ranting against. You appear to have decided that I was saying exactly the opposite of what I actually said.I just expressed my opinion, I never suggested that anyone else should think what I think as well. Honestly, if you asked me who the best band I've ever seen were, I'd say Guns N' Roses 21st of July, 2006. I just enjoyed them the most.. What's wrong with that? You can't change it by disagreeing with it, they were the best band I've ever seen in concert And personally, I thought 2006-2010 was a really exciting time to be a fan of the band, I got a lot of enjoyment out of it. I don't think I'm jaded, I think I'm pretty fair-minded. I just hate seeing something which meant a lot to me fall apart and get swept under the carpet of history while everyone else fucking celebrates it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RichardNixon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 CD era GN'R never existed. it was only Axl making experiments and milking the name with a backing band. it didn't work, it failed.i'm truly sorry for the people who supported that travesty. you've been played. Ironically though a lot of people were supporting it up until about 2011 when Axl became a fat purveyor of Vegas cheese and revealed the 'nugnr' experiment for all it was which was always a vacuous con trick basically. If Rose had put out four albums and was playing experimental setlists now, it would be a different story. I hate to say it but even I was carried along for awhile.Back in 1995, Axl thought classic hard rock was a dead end, he thought the GNR masses were going to follow him on the path of techno-industrial experiments a la Trent Reznor.... He was wrong. It would have been cool if he had done it as a solo project. GNR fans in general don't like indus music, they love hard rock, they love Slash. Hard rock is still alive nowadays, but nobody gives a damn about indus music anymore.Chinese Democracy doesn't sound like "techno, industrial metal," or like Nine Inch Nails. It's a guitar rock album, first and foremost. If people honestly think it sounds like the Downward Spiral, I don't know how to respond. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixk Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I won't lie, I shed a tear of joy when I saw this. If anything else comes out of this, then fuck yeah. If not, I'm happy that they've been able to bury the hatchet.and it wasn't in one of their skulls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardNixon Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Loved Chinese Democracy, loved the nu GN'R tours I saw, love the Vegas DVD. Some people do, some people don't. What's annoying is some people insist that they're right, that Vegas sucked, that Chinese Democracy sucks, and that's a fact, something supporters of Axl and the band need to "deal with." Between entitled fans, who coincidentally, are also the same people that make fun of Axl's weight, no wonder Axl doesn't like communicating with fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Here's a thought: Slash tells the CBS crew in May that there isn't that many issues between him and Axl anymore, and that it is mostly media exaggerating, but that he hasn't actually talked to Axl. This would suggest that signals have come from the GN'R camp that Axl has mellowed (maybe nothing more than Slash interpreting Del congratulating his on his birthday, etc). The Aftonbladet interviewer saw this interview and maybe interprets it slightly too strongly in the direction of the friendship between the guys having been restored, and asks, "I've heard that you made friends with Axl Rose again. How was that possible after all those years?" to which Slash answers "It was probably way over due, you know, but it's very cool at this point. Let some of that... dispel some of that negative stuff that was going on for so long." Again, nothing suggests anything new has happened since May. Slash could still just be going on from signals from the camp. Hell, he might even have decided to not correct the interviewers assumption that they are friends again, because he wanted it to be a hand stretched out to Axl. It is up to Axl to put an end to all this! Because we have RS magazine and Billboard and pretty much all the media printing this story. You could say they should´ve called Axl and his camp for comment. May be they want Axl to show his cards once and for all and get answers about everything from Slash to new GN´R future plans. In the meantime let people dream and speculate all they want. And eventually if Axl announces a new album with new GN´R then you can post "I TOLD YOU SO"!!!!I won't. I have no idea what is going to happen -- and I am not claiming I do . I just find it funny and endearing how people exaggerate the meaning of what Slash said, and I hope poeple won't end up disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I just think it's cool that they're friends again. Or at least on talking terms. Life is too short for bullshit, like hating people.If there is a reunion, great. If not, that's cool too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Name is Trinity Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I just find it funny and endearing how people exaggerate the meaning of what Slash said, and I hope poeple won't end up disappointed.what's even funnier is people like you trying to belittle the importance of slash being friend with axl again... it almost sounds like if you were disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bono Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Does Axl know they're friends again?This I would be interested in.Definitely the most positive old Guns news in a while but I'm keeping the champagne on ice until Axl pipes up.Hard to imagine Axl saying anything. They'll reunite and everyone else will do the talking, they;ll plan a tour, then Axl will show up out of shape and suck, the tour will be cut short then Axl will release some bullshit letter how he didn't know about the tour, didn't have time to prepare and was forced to tour and how the motives for it all had nothing to do with art but only for other people's agendas and the almighty dollar. That's probably how it will go exactlyThat is why i don't get the whole excitement from you "reunionist" dudesBut i know, i know, i'm too young that is why i lick Axl's coverband....The reality is:- Axl is out of shape as fuck and sounds like an old fart and he still got a "follow up" for CD so he doesn't need a reunion- Slash will be releasing a 3rd Conspirators album and he is better than ever- Slash just said they are on speaking terms again, which is cool, but it does not automatically lead to a reunion sadly- if a reunion happens Axl will fuck up everything as usualso you, old and educated GNR fans should grow up and start using your brainsMaybe you too young to have a clue Axl new band lickers should grow up and realize that Axl and Slash on speaking terms means we're a hell of a lot closer to a reunion than we were when they weren't on speaking terms. It's hilarious to see people like you panic, sitting there still denying that a reunion is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I just find it funny and endearing how people exaggerate the meaning of what Slash said, and I hope poeple won't end up disappointed.what's even funnier is people like you trying to belittle the importance of slash being friend with axl again... it almost sounds like if you were disappointed.Oh, then I have not made myself clear. I think it is nice if they are becoming friends again. About time!But let's not get carried away here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissirge Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Wow, this news has gotten to visit this place in like 3 years.Hell has frozen over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkuk04 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Not sold yet on whether this is not a huge hoax. For arguments sake If they entered negotiations for a reunion tour & possible new music, where in the blue hell would that leave CD:2 & the follow up albums? If the negotiation's fall through GNR could be in limbo for the next few years & beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillBailey Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 axl's twitter is on fireWhile Slash has tweeted twice since as if nothing's happened.Yes I noticed that, he actually posted random stuff on Instagram but nothing related to the big news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 To get excited it has to be more concrete. Get concrete or fuck off. You think Slash didn't know it will create hype? that little comment in that interview and now it's on rolling stone and all over the internet.So why would he say that if he knew? could have said something else or nothing at all. Still, I think the scale of it is not as impressive as it might seem right now and we pounce no questions asked. Let the smoke clear right now it's on viagra blast.Still no reunion but I'm glad they arent suing each other. Or playing games in the media, at all. Clarity, player, clarity. Slash and Izzy great replacements for Ron and Dj. If Tommy goes why not Duff? Either way CD II to the motherfucking K homeboy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness Descends Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 In some weird way I do not want a reunion. Probably them publically giving an interview/shaking hands would be fine.Love Axl or hate Axl... you cant deny that he is definitely not a sellout.He said numerous times that there will never be a reunion. And I can ignore him being a bloated shiny jacket wearing oldie struggling to sing... but I will lose all respect if he does a reunion. Nope. No. No. No.Moreover... theres more of an excitement if there is no reunion. Almost like a cult thing... something fans wanted yet it never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Not sold yet on whether this is not a huge hoax. For arguments sake If they entered negotiations for a reunion tour & possible new music, where in the blue hell would that leave CD:2 & the follow up albums? If the negotiation's fall through GNR could be in limbo for the next few years & beyond. So you mean if the reunion doesn't happen, nothing will change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsfanoldie Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 In some weird way I do not want a reunion. Probably them publically giving an interview/shaking hands would be fine.Love Axl or hate Axl... you cant deny that he is definitely not a sellout.He said numerous times that there will never be a reunion. And I can ignore him being a bloated shiny jacket wearing oldie struggling to sing... but I will lose all respect if he does a reunion. Nope. No. No. No.Moreover... theres more of an excitement if there is no reunion. Almost like a cult thing... something fans wanted yet it never happened.You don't have a leg to stand on since Axl does nothing, we never get music, and is making a fool of himself.Yeah, I don't want Axl to be a sellout either. But if part of that means he's just gonna continue to drag this name through the mud, have band members leave left and right, and continue to be the punchline of the music industry, I say sell away. Get Slash back on board and make some fucking music. Cause I'm tired of one of my favorite singers become the worst example for an adult I've ever seen and a reunion is really the only thing that could turn that around. Become the rock star he's supposed to be. Not the washed up hasbeen he is now.If he's gonna keep doing what he's doing out of spite, this place is gonna get a whole lot meaner and Guns N Roses as a brand is gonna get a whole lot sadder. And I'd have no sympathy for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IZZYISGNR Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Nobody cares about CD2, except a few nerds on the internet. Get over it, guys. That ship has sailed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Nobody cares about CD2, except a few nerds on the internet. Get over it, guys. That ship has sailed. But a reunion might delay the imminent release of the next installment of the trilogy! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsfanoldie Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Nobody cares about CD2, except a few nerds on the internet. Get over it, guys. That ship has sailed. FUCKING THANK YOU! I don't know why I keep refusing to believe people are that clueless around here, but if you actually think CD2 factors into any of this then you need some help.I'll repeat: we don't have a CD2 or any mention or blip of it with or without Slash reentering into the picture! The only people thinking its something are the 5 people here that for some reason need to helplessly defend Axl's laziness! We aren't getting a trilogy, its not happening, it probably wasn't even real, deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Nobody cares about CD2, except a few nerds on the internet. Get over it, guys. That ship has sailed. FUCKING THANK YOU! I don't know why I keep refusing to believe people are that clueless around hereWhat is clueless about thinking that Axl will some day release the rest of the material from the CD sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Tobias has been gone for 14 years, Buckethead left what? 12 years ago, it's been at least 7 for Robin...CHINESE DEMOCRACY II STARTS NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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