Swedish Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 So I was thinking about this earlier today, with rumors of a reunion tour and the fact that it seems as though the old guys are on speaking terms again we might soon see more of the pro-shot recordings from the Use Your Illusion Tour that Axl allegedly has in the notorious vault!But the question is, how would these be delivered to the fans? And I think I came up with a great answer to that...Next year (2016) marks the 25th anniversary of the tour, so wouldn't it be a nice treatment and/or a trip down memory lane (for both fans and the band) if on the 25th anniversary of each show we would be able to buy that performance through Nightrain or their online store for maybe $10 per show? This would mean that we (the fans) would be able to get to the see shows we are interested in seeing (like shows you've attended or just shows with special setlists and so on) by paying a small amount and the GN'R camp would earn a lot of money constantly for three years and they would probably also get their fan club to actually gain members!So to clarify if this seems confusing....On the 3rd of August 2016 we would be able to buy a pro-shot video with soundboard audio (like the Indiana show) of the epic 3 and a half hour show at Great Western Forum ( ) on the 3rd of August 1991. And on the 31th of August 2016 we would be able to buy Izzy's last show (as a member anyways) from Wembley on the 31th of August 1991.Axl and TB would have nothing too lose by doing this (and I mean the Facebook page is already posting Throwback Thursdays/Tattoo Tuesdays as if that is what's most important in this world...) and it would cost them absolutely nothing plus the fact that they would earn a lot of profit from both memberships and the actual shows, so why not?What do you guys think about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I like the idea, but TB would have to work hard to make sure none of that pro-shot footage ends up on YouTube after someone buys it for $10 on Nightrain, cause then you're looking at a case of diminishing returns as more and more shows get uploaded.Then there's all the backstage footage to take into account that was supposed to be compiled into that feature-length documentary. It'd still be nice to see something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stella Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I'd love to see the pro-shot footage released in some way. If every show on the UYI tour was recorded, as the rumor says, and all the recordings still exist, that's a lot of great material they could release to the world. They could always do some sort of DVD-on-demand sort of thing and allow people to order the performances they want.And yeah, they'd probably be filing takedown notices on YouTube every single day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Cool idea but I doubt they'd ever do it... if anything, the best we'd get is [a very re-edited version of] the Perfect Crime documentary, or maybe a few individual songs or a 'highlight reel' kinda thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I think you are confusing GN'R with Pearl Jam or Springsteen, i.e. acts who actually cares about their fan base and are competent enough to deliver archival projects. This is Team Brazil/Axl. Anniversaries are celebrated with a new competition for a towel via Nightrain. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 please release every show with izzy in glorious pro shoti will buy them all and it is gonna be lovely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I think Axl should save them as his retirement pension and then do what the Dead did and release them as "Mark Canter's picks". If anyone deserves the honor of selecting the UYI shows to release I think it is Mark for all he has done for the boys.Personally I would rather have a box set of Mark's audio and video recordings but that is a subject for a different thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Just wait till he croaks. Then you'll get all sorts of unreleased material. Too bad it'll be handled by incompetent morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shjtjustgotreal Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 everything could only mean one thing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Axl should release those concerts in blu-ray, doesn't matter if it's SD. A pro-shot of legendary shows during 1991-1993 would make most Gn'R fans happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Realistically u can't just release ALL of those shows. After a while you'd feel like youre watching the same thing over and over, Id think.Id just pick the best handful to put out, really 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Realistically u can't just release ALL of those shows. After a while you'd feel like youre watching the same thing over and over, Id think.No.But yeah, realistically, only a handful of fans like myself would actually buy all of the shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 There is a market for releasing tons of these shows through (fan club?) subscription or online. Pearl Jam and Metallica have demonstrated this. Further, The Stones have released a lot of ''official'' bootlegs recently from many shows - Neil Young has done similar with his archive series. But if you are releasing live material the traditional way you have to realistically edit - boil down - a few shows to a deluxe boxset or a series of boxsets such as Kiss's brilliant Kissology trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancata Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 (edited) The records are pretty old by now and most probably in bad condition. In addition to that there is big difference between raw matirial and ready to be sold well produced product. Who is going to dig out all this old material and actually work hard for who knows how long time to be able to create something distributable. The archive is most probably gone by now because of lack of maintenence. Edited October 17, 2015 by vancata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 The records are pretty old by now and most probably in bad condition. In addition to that there is big difference between raw matirial and ready to be sold well produced product. Who is going to dig out all this old material and actually work hard for who knows how long time to be able to create something distributable. The archive is most probably gone by now because of lack of maintenence.They have found old 'lost' silent films from the 1910s in bins, remastered them up and released them - i'm sure the Illusion footage is in good nick. Besides, I'd find it hard to believe that it has not been transfered to digital at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludurigan Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 The records are pretty old by now and most probably in bad condition. In addition to that there is big difference between raw matirial and ready to be sold well produced product. Who is going to dig out all this old material and actually work hard for who knows how long time to be able to create something distributable. The archive is most probably gone by now because of lack of maintenence.They have found old 'lost' silent films from the 1910s in bins, remastered them up and released them - i'm sure the Illusion footage is in good nick. Besides, I'd find it hard to believe that it has not been transfered to digital at some point.exactlybesides, there is no need to select anythingpick pretty much any show with Izzyand you most certainly will find the best band ever just fuckin rockingdont forget that the 1991 warm up secret shows were shot on filmall you need is a SDB audio fom those shows...then you put A + Band there you have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalGunner Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Realistically u can't just release ALL of those shows. After a while you'd feel like youre watching the same thing over and over, Id think.Id just pick the best handful to put out, reallyPretty sure Metallica puts out all their shows in some kind of format for download and probably makes a boatload of cash.No reason these couldn't be released too.. but they probably won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseIRS Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Id go so far to say that if the original band never broke up we would have gotten all sorts of cool shit like that...such a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PITBOSS Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 So I was thinking about this earlier today, with rumors of a reunion tour and the fact that it seems as though the old guys are on speaking terms again we might soon see more of the pro-shot recordings from the Use Your Illusion Tour that Axl allegedly has in the notorious vault!But the question is, how would these be delivered to the fans? And I think I came up with a great answer to that...Next year (2016) marks the 25th anniversary of the tour, so wouldn't it be a nice treatment and/or a trip down memory lane (for both fans and the band) if on the 25th anniversary of each show we would be able to buy that performance through Nightrain or their online store for maybe $10 per show? This would mean that we (the fans) would be able to get to the see shows we are interested in seeing (like shows you've attended or just shows with special setlists and so on) by paying a small amount and the GN'R camp would earn a lot of money constantly for three years and they would probably also get their fan club to actually gain members!So to clarify if this seems confusing....On the 3rd of August 2016 we would be able to buy a pro-shot video with soundboard audio (like the Indiana show) of the epic 3 and a half hour show at Great Western Forum ( ) on the 3rd of August 1991. And on the 31th of August 2016 we would be able to buy Izzy's last show (as a member anyways) from Wembley on the 31th of August 1991.Axl and TB would have nothing too lose by doing this (and I mean the Facebook page is already posting Throwback Thursdays/Tattoo Tuesdays as if that is what's most important in this world...) and it would cost them absolutely nothing plus the fact that they would earn a lot of profit from both memberships and the actual shows, so why not?What do you guys think about this?of course it's an excellent idea, doubt anything would become of it. they need to get someone who's a fan of the band in the fold and come up with some better social media/ fan club content. all the past stuff has been off limits but maybe things have started to change? they could do so many cool things with nighttrain but are limited to what axl will allow i guess. i also suppose nobody in the camp would want to bring stuff like this up for fear of pissing off axl.axl said he isn't retiring but we haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise except some rumours. he probably frequents the forum yet can't throw us a bone here or there. it's been like a year and a half since we heard anything directly from him to indicate what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunzopolis Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Part of the reason something like this hasn't happened yet, must be, at least partly, because Axl doesn't want it to happen. Maybe it's like, not wanting to admit that he probably will never be able to perform again, like he did on that tour, when he was in his prime.It's fun to think about/wish for though. I agree with others in that the best way to do this would be to have a sort of "best of" type release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I see where you are coming from but I think there's a money issue, and a time issue. Someone would have to oversee the project, and they couldn't / shouldn't release everything. This is something that they should have done on the CD tour too, but I just don't think Axl would be that interested in giving fans that kind of access (IMO). I think a more realistic goal now that things seem to be on good terms is a re-released AFD, with a bonus disc including live recordings from the AFD tour (87-89), and a DVD including one of the better shot shows from that era.UYI I & II re-released as one album (no changes to what's on the album, just a double disc, or triple if they include some alt. mixes or demo takes), also included a DVD of the UYI documentary, and a selection of the better recorded live takes off UYI.I'd be pretty happy with that.And a new album, not necessarily even a reunion album; just ANY new music from any line up (new or old). BUT! Let's not get bogged down in the vaults, hoping for live recordings when we could hear songs we've never heard before (some of which Slash was even involved in... according to Richard). New music above all else. And then release the old footage and recordings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 imax 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustycage Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Save em for a box set. Release all of the archive footage in the box separated by era. If that's not good enough, throw in a candle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 dont forget that the 1991 warm up secret shows were shot on filmElaborate on this, please. As far as I know all the UYI tour shows were videotaped only. Are you 100% sure those secret gigs were shot on film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSeeker Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Give all the documentary footage to a famous director and let him cobble together a 3-hour tour documentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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