WhazUp Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 5 hours ago, Modano09 said: What fans? The like 5% that are upset Adler isn't the full-time drummer? The same fans that would've sold their soul just to have Slash and Axl together again? Dodger Stadium sold out because Axl and Slash were back together, Adler's introduction was met with polite applause. The vast majority don't care if he's there or not. I was at the show last night, and I can tell you that it was a lot more than polite applause for Adler in the section I was in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Anyways to get back to the show itself, Axl was on fire the whole show and I got chills during his opening scream and the last part of Jungle where Axl goes all out Edited August 21, 2016 by WhazUp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good, Fuck'n, Night. Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 5 hours ago, AxlCole said: I just realized you have a Steven Adler picture with a red slash through it. No wonder your trying to scew it to look like barely anyone gives a shit about him. It's his MO. As tiring as it is, it's his opinion & he's free to hooray for tolerance! I mean "express" it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCbzW-0kfElVDZHVGiv3bR-Q Axl was close to Houston level last night. It's funny you can hear Axls voice beginning to sound like Axl/DC again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 6 hours ago, Nosaj Thing said: Steven Adler > Brent Snape Fitz > Matt Sorum > Dog's shit > Frank Ferrer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 8 hours ago, Modano09 said: But he's not. While people on here and complaining about Adler not being the drummer like 99% of the world is jazzed that GNR are back together and putting on amazing shows. 99% of the world haha. Hyperbole of the highest order. They were not even selling out their second dates this time round and will be back in the arenas if they ever decide to tour the United States again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frey Posted August 21, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, RONIN said: Not necessarily true. Axl had tension with Steven for years and the final straw was the speedball incident with Erin Everly where she ODed. Erin blamed Steven and Steven maintains that Erin Everly lied about the incident. Either way, Axl wanted him gone by then. Duff and Slash had a strong bromance and Steven was not their boy anymore, so neither fought hard for him and were the first to want him gone when the UYI sessions were getting held up while Adler was trying to get clean. Adler has a point -- how many times did the band stop working on UYI to accommodate Axl? The entire Chicago sessions were ruined by Axl. Yeah well, that's just the difference between Adler and Axl. Axl was more or less irreplacable. I know they considered firing him a couple of times, but could they have seriously pulled through without Axl? Most likely not (or only on a much smaller scale) and that's why they never ended up doing it. In the eyes of the general public, Axl and Slash are the only two guys who are absolutely necessary for the band to pass as Guns N Roses. Axl's singing, performance, song writing, etc. made him unique and absolutely crucial to the band, they would never have found a suitable replacement singer. Adler on the other hand? Just the drummer. And not even a drummer who contributes other things like song writing or is heavily involved in running the band (like Lars Ulrich for example). What did Adler bring to the table except this nebulous, yet constantly cited sense of groove/swing? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. And like you said, Slash's BFF was Duff now and he already seemed mostly annoyed by Adler and his lack of brains/unprofessional behavior, and Axl never liked Adler anyway, so who was gonna stop them from firing the weakest link when they perceived him to fuck up too much? Then Adler spent 25 years proving they were right about firing him. 25 years in which the other guys didn't touch Adler with a 10 foot pole and never involved him in any of their projects. And the one time Duff did (being the nice guy that he is), Adler screwed it up again. Adler is a guy who manages to piss even Duff off (of all people) and Slash is actively avoiding and ignoring Adler (or has been until recently at least). IMO it speaks volumes about Adler that both his own former best friend and the most mild-mannered and reasonable guy in the band don't like him much. And then of course you've got Axl who probably has a million reasons (both deserved and undeserved) to dislike Adler. Considering all that, Adler should kiss Slash's, Duff's and Axl's feet for even letting him have a part in this in the first place. And they've been exceedingly gracious and nice to him about it too. Adler should count himself the luckiest guy there is. But knowing Adler, I wouldn't be shocked if he manages to screw this up as well, and then we'll be back to Adler giving whiny interviews about Duff hating him and Slash ignoring him all the time and Axl being mean Edited August 21, 2016 by Frey 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_rose Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 About those models, it is standard prosedure at every rock show, nothing new, please move along. Steven. I play drums myself, and every song from uyi is not hard to play. That is a fact! Of course Steven will nail the songs. The question is, will he survive a tour? Personally, I think he will. But is he willing to play chinese stuff? I am not so sure. About 2 LA gig. I showed a friend of mine ( casual gnr fan) last nighs gig, and he was stunned! He could not believe what I showed him. Yes, alcohol was involved, but when I showed him Coma, he went fucking crazy. Was a good night :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianGNR Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 3 hours ago, TheDemocracyRose said: https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCbzW-0kfElVDZHVGiv3bR-Q Axl was close to Houston level last night. It's funny you can hear Axls voice beginning to sound like Axl/DC again... Nah... Not even close Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagrez Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 3 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: 99% of the world haha. Hyperbole of the highest order. They were not even selling out their second dates this time round and will be back in the arenas if they ever decide to tour the United States again. second dates… so… they are selling like 150k tickets for two shows… for you its a failure… go figure… 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, wagrez said: second dates… so… they are selling like 150k tickets for two shows… for you its a failure… go figure… I didn't say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoKiss344 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Adler is the man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 7 minutes ago, PsychoKiss344 said: Adler is the man Nah. He really isn't. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiffani Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 On 8/20/2016 at 9:27 AM, Slash787 said: Not a longer clip, this might help you Excellent. Thank you! Man they sound great! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 I watched these videos more than 50 times, its just hard to believe. Axl, Slash, Duff and Steven on one stage. Axl saying Slash, Mr. Duff Mckagan and Mr. Steven Adler This is really a dream come true. 4/5 We just need the last puzzle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packersfan#4#12 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 The LA concerts looked great! The band was on fire! Unfortunately we have quite a few micro managing people who are on this board who would be upset if it was sunny and 75 degrees out only because it's not 76. Enjoy the damn tour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 14 minutes ago, Packersfan#4#12 said: The LA concerts looked great! The band was on fire! Unfortunately we have quite a few micro managing people who are on this board who would be upset if it was sunny and 75 degrees out only because it's not 76. Enjoy the damn tour Don't let the man hold you down brah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lassie Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 17 hours ago, Evil Doer said: some of you want to risk an entire stadium tour on steven adler being clean and reliable???? whether he can play all the songs or not, i wouldn't trust the guy as far as i could throw him. frank is reliable and does a good job. They are fucking crazy, i know he is the first drummer, but to risk it all, i don't think so. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, lassie said: They are fucking crazy, i know he is the first drummer, but to risk it all, i don't think so. Nothing wrong if Steven plays all the AFD songs and anyways Frank is there to "save" the show if "something" happens to Steven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 13 minutes ago, Slash787 said: Nothing wrong if Steven plays all the AFD songs and anyways Frank is there to "save" the show if "something" happens to Steven. It's not so simple, I'm afraid. The "something" could cause drama that no one needs right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lassie Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, Slash787 said: Nothing wrong if Steven plays all the AFD songs and anyways Frank is there to "save" the show if "something" happens to Steven. Yes that could work, but don't know if Frank will go along with it, but maybe Adler could do 5 songs at every show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Słash Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Blackstar said: It's not so simple, I'm afraid. The "something" could cause drama that no one needs right now. Steven has played in Adlers Appetite and in Adler, I saw him live playing all the GNR songs with his band, he sounded fantastic, had so much energy and nothing happened to him. Some of you just see Steven as a minority and Axl/Slash as Gods that something can happen to Steven, but nothing can happen to Slash or Axl and they have done nothing. If you see the past record, Axl is the most unreliable person. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Axl doesn't seem to be unreliable anymore though. And like I said in an earlier post, Axl is irreplacable. Even if he still were a risk, they'd just have to take that risk or have no tour at all. But Steven is a risk they don't have to take if they don't want to, he's perfectly replacable, so that's why they're not giving him anything more than a few guest spots. And I can't say I blame them. Why take unnecessary risks in a business that you don't have to take when 97% of your customers (aka the audience) don't really give a fuck anyway? And yeah, like @Blackstar said, Steven could also cause unnecessary tension and drama. What if it was Slash who pushed for Steven's inclusion (like some people here claim, though I've never seen proof of that), Steven fucks up somehow and then Axl gets pissed at Slash? Shit like that is just not necessary, especially when things are still so new and fragile. Edited August 21, 2016 by Frey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert39 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 They sound so much better, with popcorn behind the kit !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Slash787 said: Steven has played in Adlers Appetite and in Adler, I saw him live playing all the GNR songs with his band, he sounded fantastic, had so much energy and nothing happened to him. Some of you just see Steven as a minority and Axl/Slash as Gods that something can happen to Steven, but nothing can happen to Slash or Axl and they have done nothing. If you see the past record, Axl is the most unreliable person. I have never said or implied anything like that. I like Steven's drumming and I'd want him to be there full time. I don't want to repeat or quote myself, my post about the reasoning for which, imo, Steven couldn't be touring with the band full time right now is on page 24 of this thread. In addition to that and what @Freysaid above about the drama, if something happened with Steven and they fired him again, Steven would unlikely accept it and he would talk publicly, then they would have to give their version etc. Edited August 21, 2016 by Blackstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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