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When this tour is over, what do you think will happen? 

1. Slash, Axl and Duff go their separate ways again after collecting a nice fat check, and GNR reverts to the "Axl band/Nu-Guns" 

I don't think this will happen unless Axl wants to lose all of the goodwill he has built up this year. Plus, I think that if they lose Slash and Duff they will immediately go back to playing Vegas residencies. Think of the Beach Boys 50th Anniversary Reunion tour: After a huge summer reunion tour with Brian Wilson and Al Jardine back in the group, Mike Love announced that The Beach Boys (which he owns the license to, like Axl with GNR) would go back to playing Casino's and State Fairs with the Mike Love lineup. He probably figures that although they play much smaller venues , it's less hassle than dealing with original members and he makes a bigger cut of a smaller pie. 

2. Axl/Slash/Duff release a new GNR album and tour behind it. 

This is obviously the best result, but record companies are not going to pay millions of dollars for a new record by ANYONE in a world of streaming and disposable music. They would have to find a way to record relatively inexpensively....and they can't take 14 years to make it, either. I'm still surprised that they didn't put out just one new song as part of a summer movie soundtrack like T2. It would have been fantastic promotion for the reunion, and added legitimacy. 

3. They just keep milking the reunion until it's dry. 

Bad idea, especially since ticket demand is not as great as I'm sure they were hoping for due to both the ridiculous price point and overly optimistic choices of huge stadiums in cities where an arena would have been a smarter choice. They just announced that there is "no end in sight" to this tour though, so this seems most likely, unfortunately. 

4. When the tour ends, GNR officially breaks up 

It could happen. Everyone makes a shit ton of money playing the old hits, and then Slash goes back to his solo band, Duff returns to Loaded and maybe finishes his degree and Axl joins AC/DC on an official basis or starts a solo career. I would rather this happen than go back to Nu-Guns after all of this. 

 

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2 minutes ago, starlight said:

I hope for the second option.

3 I think it is also possible.The last one would be scary but it's not going to happen in my opinion.

The first one only towards the end of each one's carrer

To me, the band breaking up is not as scary as going back to play Casino's with DJ Ashba and Bumblefoot

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1 minute ago, radioflyer said:

To me, the band breaking up is not as scary as going back to play Casino's with DJ Ashba and Bumblefoot

It depends...I don't want GNR to break up when the tour ends so for me it's scary.

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5 minutes ago, radioflyer said:

To me, the band breaking up is not as scary as going back to play Casino's with DJ Ashba and Bumblefoot

Axl isn't going back to a reality without Slash and Duff. All loves playing to stadiums and I suspect he enjoys being relevant again. 

 

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After the tour, which is said to run through 2017, they will likely take a break from GNR.  Slash might do something with Myles for a while.  Duff might do Loaded. 

Dizzy will crawl back up Axl butt.

Then they will probably tour again, doing arenas next time.  Maybe 2019 after taking 2018 off.

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Don't be surprised if they tour the same markets again in 2017 (but in smaller venues) to play all of AFD as a 30th Anniversary Tour. "Legacy" bands (which GNR is now one of) are all about gimmicks and angles - usually built around anniversaries. I would prefer that GNR gets back to making new music, but money is money. 

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24 minutes ago, radioflyer said:

3. They just keep milking the reunion until it's dry. 

Bad idea, especially since ticket demand is not as great as I'm sure they were hoping for due to both the ridiculous price point and overly optimistic choices of huge stadiums in cities where an arena would have been a smarter choice. They just announced that there is "no end in sight" to this tour though, so this seems most likely, unfortunately.

 

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The only concern of gnr's future is Axl's voice. as his songs are hard to nail every concert it will come a time that he will have to stop. So in my opinion is a couple of albums/tours and in a decade or less option 4 :cry:

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34 minutes ago, radioflyer said:

3. They just keep milking the reunion until it's dry. 

Bad idea, especially since ticket demand is not as great as I'm sure they were hoping for due to both the ridiculous price point and overly optimistic choices of huge stadiums in cities where an arena would have been a smarter choice. They just announced that there is "no end in sight" to this tour though, so this seems most likely, unfortunately. 

Although True, With the current lineup they're selling double, if not triple what they were doing playing residencies and small theaters and stuff like that.. They could easily in theory try to milk it again, though for us Hardcore fans would be redundant. But a large portion of the people attending now are casual fans, who wouldnt give a shit about any of that and they'd probably go see it again because its a great show. 

I personally dont have a clue what they're gonna do after the tour is over( Which seems that its gonna go well into next year). I've learned through the years not to get my hopes up with this band. the past few years honestly I didnt really care too much what was going on with the Nu-Guns lineup. It got old and boring, and Axl's voice wasnt great. I'll believe they're gonna put a new record out when its already out on Itunes or wherever else you buy records these days. until then, im just gonna kick back and enjoy this reunion tour until it gets old too, which if they dont put out new stuff, It will get old eventually. 

It would be interesting to know how Duff and Slash feel about potentially working on songs that are already written. It's a shame that aside from Axl doing the China Exchange thing, we dont know too much, and especially from Duff and Slash. But I can understand that they're not trying to shake the boat with anything that could be misquoted and cause any unneeded drama.

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I don't believe in Axl when he says he plans to release more music in the future, he's been lying about it for almost ten years now and the time before that too.

Most likely option seems to be milking the cow til it's dry empty. Specially la vaca sudamericana, if you know what I mean. They could just move to Brazil for good.

Slash probably will work again with Myles and Duff will do whatever he does. No idea what the hired hands will do. Don't really care.

If one day Axl, Slash and Duff release a new song under GNR and it's actually good, I hope they are still on some decent shape to perform it live. That would be the only reason for me to go watch them. Although I love fact they are together again, I have no interest in nostalgia + Axl solo songs. YouTube is enough for me. But with a new album? That's actually good? Oh yeah, count me in. Never gonna happen tho.

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I am hoping if they are going to hit the US again it is not going to be the same tour, a 30th anniversary of Appetite with the Original Lineup would be awesome, but just the same tour with the same members only playing smaller arenas I am sure I am going to go, but ahh

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Look on it this way: he continued milking the nugnr thing when it had plummeted to the depths of despair that is casino residencies, so what chance is there for Axl to suddenly decide not to continue touring arenas (minimum venue size once the hype has vanished and they've circumnavigated the world at least once) and rediscover his long lost creative muse? I think they will probably sporadically milk it until they cannot do it anymore and put things like live DVDs and greatest hits albums out. Of course there is no impediment to Slash and Duff putting out their solo stuff inbetween.

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6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Look on it this way: he continued milking the nugnr thing when it had plummeted to the depths of despair that is casino residencies, so what chance is there for Axl to suddenly decide not to continue touring arenas (minimum venue size once the hype has vanished and they've circumnavigated the world at least once) and rediscover his long lost creative muse? I think they will probably sporadically milk it until they cannot do it anymore and put things like live DVDs and greatest hits albums out. Of course there is no impediment to Slash and Duff putting out their solo stuff inbetween.

I don't think the combo Axl/Slash/Duff is made for an arena act - all of them could make nearly the same amount of money by touring by themselves instead so I don't think this would ever happen - the more interesting question is how much people are still interested in Conspirators or NuGNR after they have seen the originals being back together....

 

Slash might still be succesfull on some level (as he has a lot of solo songs) but NuGNR in any form is bound to fail without Slash/Duff (if Axl should really decide to tour without them in the future)

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Honestly, I hope option 3. Ideally a new album would be great, but for a lot of us who haven't seen any lineup except for the NuEra lineup, seeing this tour continuing is the best shot to see them. I'd love to see them do their overseas shows next year as rumoured and then come back to some smaller markets in arenas in North America. Give more people a chance to see them without having to travel 20+ hours to see them. 

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8 minutes ago, Kula2006 said:

I don't think the combo Axl/Slash/Duff is made for an arena act - all of them could make nearly the same amount of money by touring by themselves instead so I don't think this would ever happen - the more interesting question is how much people are still interested in Conspirators or NuGNR after they have seen the originals being back together....

 

Slash might still be succesfull on some level (as he has a lot of solo songs) but NuGNR in any form is bound to fail without Slash/Duff (if Axl should really decide to tour without them in the future)

They are going to be hammered ticket wise once the initial buzz of this tour dies down - particularly in the United States. I cannot see them booking subsequent stadia in areas previously toured. The logical move would be to climb down to arenas for subsequent legs and sell them out - South America not included in this theory!

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Anything can happen with these guys. Good chance they will go their separate ways and Axl will retire from touring because no one will go see GnR without Slash and Duff anymore after this, but he will keep releasing music under the GnR name (so that means once every decade or so) with session musicians and maybe even Duff and Slash contributing to a few songs without being full members.

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Tough to tell really. I kind of think that they are at least playing around with musical ideas during their off days or after shows. I am more of a live music person these days. I mean I would love to hear great new music from Guns N' Roses but I'd rather see them continue to put on stellar shows than release sub par music. 

An Appetite anniversary tour would be great. I would love to see them finish what they started with Steven and Izzy on board.. Smaller venues or I would even fly to Vegas again to see that if they did residency. As long as I continue to get to see them live I am happy..

As for new music? That is tricky. I truly think Chinese Democracy is awful and I wouldn't want it to sound anything like that. I mean a couple songs like Street Of Dreams could work but not all that industrial copy and pasted on top of drum loop garbage. I definitely think Axl, Slash and Duff could come up or rework some existing stuff to sound good though. How much would Fortus be involved? His whammy bar noodling is the antithesis of what Guns N' Roses guitar sounds were always about. He is a shredding, posing, session player and I have zero interest in hearing him on a Guns N' Roses album. As much as I and others have shit on Frank he doesn't worry me. He has improved noticeably. Hearing Ashley Simpsons background vocals and Synthesizer doesn't scream like a good Gn'R album to me either. Who knows what her role will be.

I guess we will have to wait and see. As Slash said, he didn't put much forethought into all of this and I don't think any of them did. They are feeling out as it goes and it seems to be going really well at the moment.  

I think a remastered Appetite with a bonus disc some Live, old unreleased stuff and a few new songs to go along with an Appetite anniversary tour would be awesome. But 2017 is only a few months away and they will most likely still be in the NITL tour...

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3 minutes ago, Wagszilla said:

If they tour the US again anytime soon, you'll see lower sales.

Part of the appeal of legacy acts like The Rolling Stones or AC/DC and as it stands, GNR, is that they don't tour often, so then it becomes a special thing. You think, "well shit honey, we better go see the Stones, we may not have the chance again". It justifies the higher price.

I think we'll get a new "Very Best Of" release this year, something AFD related next year, and who knows after that.

Soon isn't the word for new music. I'd love to be wrong! Gimme that CD II!   

 

I can guarantee that there will be a 30th Anniversary AFD reissue with unreleased songs, remastered sound and all the bells and whistles. 

I imagine that this version of GNR (no Izzy or Steven) will tour behind it playing the whole album. That's a way for you to pay to see this tour twice while thinking that you're getting something different or special. 

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41 minutes ago, @xlRose said:

The only concern of gnr's future is Axl's voice. as his songs are hard to nail every concert it will come a time that he will have to stop. So in my opinion is a couple of albums/tours and in a decade or less option 4 :cry:

I was thinking the same.. I mean he has really exceeded expectations this tour and it has been really fun to watch.. Just flat out amazing at times. But while there are plenty of moments of brilliance, his voice isn't want it used to be. It just isn't. It is crazy how it is so strong at sometimes and others not so much. Maybe he will figure something out.. How many years does Rob Halford have on him? He sis still belting it out.

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6 minutes ago, Wagszilla said:

If they tour the US again anytime soon, you'll see lower sales.

Part of the appeal of legacy acts like The Rolling Stones or AC/DC and as it stands, GNR, is that they don't tour often, so then it becomes a special thing. You think, "well shit honey, we better go see the Stones, we may not have the chance again". It justifies the higher price.

I think we'll get a new "Very Best Of" release this year, something AFD related next year, and who knows after that.

Soon isn't the word for new music. I'd love to be wrong! Gimme that CD II!   

 

hm.. You make a good point on that. 

 

I hope we dont get another greatest hits. I hate greatest hit albums and compilations. 

 

We'd all love to be wrong on getting a new album..but based off history, this band has always taken a long time to put shit out. So why would it change now.

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