action Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Modano09 said: I don't know what you're getting it. It should be 1987 all the time? I'm not dismissing what GNR was in 1987, I'm dismissing this obsession Adler seems to have with it being 1987 forever. citation needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Essentially, If Rose forms a covers band with cock-rockers present (Ashba), and plays Appetite, and peddles 1980s nostalgia such as strippers, it is alright. If Adler does the exact same thing, it is blasphemy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfisman Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Thing is Adler has been playing the same "they kicked me out, I should be there" card for more than 20 years now. It really gets old. Get over it man, they found you unreliable for a big tour. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, action said: citation needed Every time he's opened his mouth in the 90's, the 2000's, right up until now, when he's promoting how he's going to play an album from 1987 the way it's supposed to be, while using a photo of himself from 1987 on the poster along with the colors and font from the album, also from 1987. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Rose even re-recorded 1987's Appetite for Destruction! It does not get much more ''stuck in the past'' than actually re-recording your old albums now does it? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, DieselDaisy said: Rose even re-recorded 1987's Appetite for Destruction! It does not get much more ''stuck in the past'' than actually re-recording your old albums now does it? He also said it was just for practice purposes in the 2008 chats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: Rose even re-recorded 1987's Appetite for Destruction! It does not get much more ''stuck in the past'' than actually re-recording your old albums now does it? Wasn't the point of that to be more of a band-building/rehearsal kind of thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 20 minutes ago, RazorGunner said: Hardly- It's his opinion. Yes, nobody have "The Truth" is a word too important ☺ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Modano09 said: Every time he's opened his mouth in the 90's, the 2000's, right up until now, when he's promoting how he's going to play an album from 1987 the way it's supposed to be, while using a photo of himself from 1987 on the poster along with the colors and font from the album, also from 1987. right. squeezing yourself in a tiny skeleton jacket from 1988 in 2017 is so much better Guess Beta had a field day trying to fix the seams after the show 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Modano09 said: Every time he's opened his mouth in the 90's, the 2000's, right up until now, when he's promoting how he's going to play an album from 1987 the way it's supposed to be, while using a photo of himself from 1987 on the poster along with the colors and font from the album, also from 1987. Agreed, it's been literal groundhog day with Adler for years- always the same woe-is-me victimization, attempts to villianize others and blow his own horn simultaneously. It's beyond old, redundant and tiring. 4 minutes ago, Modano09 said: Wasn't the point of that to be more of a band-building/rehearsal kind of thing? Exactly- Axl said it was for rehearsal purposes and on adat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: He is not really doing anything different from what Rose did in the 00s to be honest. Like Rose, Adler has formed a cover band to play Appetite for Destruction - and that he believes his presence playing these songs is a sort of legitimising presence. Like Rose he is badmouthing ex-Guns N' Roses members. Like Rose he is heavily weighed down by the past. The cause and the motivation in each case is different, though. Axl did that because he didn't release new music for whatever reasons, not because he wanted to relive the 80s. Steven is fixated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, RazorGunner said: Agreed, it's been literal groundhog day with Axl for years- always the same woe-is-me victimization, attempts to villianize others and blow his own horn simultaneously. It's beyond old, redundant and tiring. this is true.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, action said: right. squeezing yourself in a tiny skeleton jacket from 1988 in 2017 is so much better Guess Beta had a field day trying to fix the seams after the show Do you honestly believe that's the exact same jacket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, RazorGunner said: He also said it was just for practice purposes in the 2008 chats. 1 minute ago, Modano09 said: Wasn't the point of that to be more of a band-building/rehearsal kind of thing? Does that change anything? For someone to rehearse a new band (circa 1999) by re-recording an old album from 1987, made with a former band, suggests you are very much stuck in the past. What is the difference in the following? Rose hires cockrockers Adler hires cockrockers Rose peddles his wares with retro (1987) artwork, Adler peddles his wares with retro (1987) artwork, Again, what is the difference? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, janrichmond said: this is true.. Quote fucking is infinitely stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, RazorGunner said: Quote fucking is infinitely stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: Does that change anything? For someone to rehearse a new band (circa 1999) by re-recording an old album from 1987, made with a former band, suggests you are very much stuck in the past. What is the difference in the following? Rose hires cockrockers Adler hires cockrockers Rose peddles his wares with retro (1987) artwork, Adler peddles his wares with retro (1987) artwork, Again, what is the difference? For one- Axl owns Guns N' Roses. He was trying to keep the band alive, not remain in stasis from 1987. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, janrichmond said: So is posting random gifs to try and validate your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, RazorGunner said: For one- Axl owns Guns N' Roses. He was trying to keep the band alive, not remain in stasis from 1987. Well he did a bloody appalling job if he is selling his modern dvds with the same front cover as an album released in 1987 haha. Ashba could slot right into one of Adler's bands, a perfect fit (He may just haha). 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: behold the new and exciting ways Axl went with GNR. God we're so happy Axl doesnt live in 1987 like Steven does. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 As I said before, love the music. Don't care for the personalities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, action said: behold the new and exciting ways Axl went with GNR. God we're so happy Axl doesnt live in 1987 like Steven does. I'll drink to that, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, RazorGunner said: So is posting random gifs to try and validate your opinion. I don't need to validate my opinion. Everything you have said about Steven also fits Axl..."living in the past" "playing the victim" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I'll drink to that, I have no issue with them living as though it was 1987, after all it was when they came of age and found their sound. We're all a product of our time. Just find all the whining annoying. All of their woe is me. Edited April 25, 2018 by cooker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modano09 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Does that change anything? For someone to rehearse a new band (circa 1999) by re-recording an old album from 1987, made with a former band, suggests you are very much stuck in the past. What is the difference in the following? Rose hires cockrockers Adler hires cockrockers Rose peddles his wares with retro (1987) artwork, Adler peddles his wares with retro (1987) artwork, Again, what is the difference? It was still GNR for Axl. People left, new people came in, and with a whole new band who hadn't all played together, he felt like re-recording Appetite was a good place to start. Guys learn the material and get to bond during the recording process. It was a band building thing, not trying to re-live Appetite. The goal was for Axl's GNR to be a continuation of GNR, an active band that made music and played concerts. It didn't entirely work out that way but that's what Axl's intention was. Alder's acting like he's Kramer giving Peterman reality tours, going out to show people what "real" GNR is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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