RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, vloors said: His been saying that for 30 years now next minute his in rehab again Adler isn't clean- that's another lie he tells his gullible fans. Chip Z'nuff mentioned him smoking weed in a recent interview. Granted, weed isn't heroin- but it is a Mind-altering intoxicating substance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Derick said: Multiple occasions? Please quote just 1 that he said that he will never play a tour with Slash again. I would assume that if somebody regarded someone as being ''in their ass'' or ''a cancer'' that they are not contemplating a reunion with them anytime soon!! 3 minutes ago, RazorGunner said: Fact is Axl owns GNR and has every right to tour under that name, all legacy bands play their hits at shows- It is expected by the audience- and the audience is mostly comprised of casuals. Then you do agree with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) On 4/26/2018 at 12:12 AM, Modano09 said: Could anyone wishing to license the music insist that it be the original recording? I know Axl can be a little out there sometimes but getting the world to accept a new version of an 11 year old album seems a bit much even for him. Who knows... It was 1998/99 and maybe he really believed that a modern re-recording could get a good response. Anyway, even if it had crossed his mind, he backed down from it quickly (thank god for that). And most likely, if he had attempted it, he wouldn't have managed to surpass the legal obstacles. We know that there has been a lot of litigation about licensing/permissions, e.g. Slash on Guitar Hero, Appetite For Democracy etc. Edited April 27, 2018 by Blackstar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Derick said: Multiple occasions? Please quote just 1 that he said that he will never play a tour with Slash again. ".... there's zero possibility of me having anything to do with Slash other than by ambush, and that wouldn't be pretty." Also... "(...) his personal though guarded distaste for much of 'Appetite' other than his or Duff's playing, Slash either should not have been in Guns to begin with or should have left after 'Lies.' In a nutshell, personally I consider him a cancer and better removed, avoided -- and the less anyone heard of him or his supporters, the better." http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=168 Edited April 25, 2018 by killuridols 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derick Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, History2010 said: the name of the current tour is a direct quote from Axl regarding if he would ever do a reunion tour. Is NITLT a reunion tour? Where´s Izzy? Where´s Adler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, DieselDaisy said: I would assume that if somebody regarded someone as being ''in their ass'' or ''a cancer'' that they are not contemplating a reunion with them anytime soon!! Then you do agree with me. Only in the aspect that nostalgia does play a part- that isn't arguable. Nostagia plays a part for every band of that league that tours. I'm glad Slash made amends with Axl and they are able to work together. If you are set on supporting Adler, maybe go buy tickets to one of his junkie sideshows, or buy his mommy's new book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baldek Posted April 25, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2018 Things got a little mixed up here. Steven and GN'R are touring while playing songs from 1987. It has nothing to do with being stuck in the past. It's about art. They're giving their fans the art that made them artists in the first place. Each of them has every right to play what they wrote, as many times as they want. People will still want to listen to it and that's perfectly fine. So Steven and Axl have something in common? Hell yeah they have, it's called Appetite for Destruction and that's about it. Too bad it's what made them famous, oh well. Just because GN'R is using updated live footage on their promo videos, doesn't make it any less valid than Steven using an AFD era photo in his tour poster. They both are promoting who they are, the best way they can and that's all there is to it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, RazorGunner said: Only in the aspect that nostalgia does play a part- that isn't arguable. Nostagia plays a part for every band of that league that tours. I'm glad Slash made amends with Axl and they are able to work together. If you are set on supporting Adler, maybe go buy tickets to one of his junkie sideshows, or buy his mommy's new book? I wouldn't go to see any of these legacy ''80s revival'' acts. I'd see The Conspirators (if they came to my city). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenYou'reTalkinToYourself Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Derick said: Multiple occasions? Please quote just 1 that he said that he will never play a tour with Slash again. "There's zero possibility of me having anything to do with Slash other than by ambush, and that wouldn't be pretty." Guess who said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
History2010 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Derick said: Is NITLT a reunion tour? Where´s Izzy? Where´s Adler? why waste so much time and energy arguing over semantics? Axl talked shit on Slash for years and said he wouldn't tour with him. When Slash was planning on attending a GNR show in 2001, Axl shut everything down. Don't act like Axl didn't hate Slash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derick Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, killuridols said: ".... there's zero possibility of me having anything to do with Slash other than by ambush, and that wouldn't be pretty." http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=168 well, at that moment he does not consider the possibility...But still, he not said NEVER, did he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgnr Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, Derick said: Good point! And we’re talking about Izzy Stradlin, the guy that have make tons and tons of music and never invited Adler. Not really. I can't remember to listen to either Axl or Slash on the tons and tons of Izzy's music Izzy does appear on a Slash song, but, that we know, neither Slash or Axl were ever invited to any Izzy solo song. As for live, Izzy joined every other AFD member on stage, Steven included. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman5150 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: How exactly has ''Axl...moved on''? - He is doing what he has said he'd never do, playing a tour with Slash, a band mate he last played with in 1993. - There is no album. There is no new material in the setlist. - Adler is advertising the following, And here is the poster, Well, Rose himself plays 9/12 songs from Appetite! With that poster in mind, the artwork/advertising for the NITL tour is equally heavy on nostalgia, The above is the centre piece from Guns N' Roses's official website which consists entirely of nostalgic iconography, http://www.gunsnroses.com/ Also on that front page is this, How is this any different to Adler? I think the main difference is that GNR are still GNR. Adler is using the GNR name to capitalize. Kinda the same as when nuguns were doing their thing. At least now, Axl, Slash, and Duff are all members. The imagery they have been using is nostalgic, but also iconic, plus they are promoting themselves, as GNR. Adler is clinging to that imagery and isn’t a part of guns anymore, but he’s promoting it like he is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: I wouldn't go to see any of these legacy ''80s revival'' acts. I'd see The Conspirators (if they came to my city). I'm definitely planning on seeing SMKC! Looking forward to the new album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Derick said: well, at that moment he does not consider the possibility...But still, he not said NEVER, did he? I think "Not in this lifetime" equals never. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Derick said: well, at that moment he does not consider the possibility...But still, he not said NEVER, did he? He said "Not In This Lifetime" but things change, so do people. I'm glad they found a way to work together again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killuridols Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, mikeman5150 said: Adler is clinging to that imagery and isn’t a part of guns anymore, but he’s promoting it like he is Where in the hell does Adler promote himself as being currently with GN'R?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derick Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, killuridols said: I think "Not in this lifetime" equals never. Do you remember the question that gave rise to this answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: Essentially, If Rose forms a covers band with cock-rockers present (Ashba), and plays Appetite, and peddles 1980s nostalgia such as strippers, it is alright. If Adler does the exact same thing, it is blasphemy. It sure is blasphemy, have you heard his latest singer!? He can't sing a full song without going out of key and he's completely corny. Edited April 25, 2018 by Order of Nine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Surprised this hasn't been locked yet. Next topic please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 minute ago, killuridols said: Where in the hell does Adler promote himself as being currently with GN'R?? That's all he crys about in his interviews and now his family is crying about it for him Enough crying!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, Order of Nine said: It sure is blasphemy, have you heard his latest singer!? He can't sing a full song without going out of key and he's completely corny. That works equally as well for Ashba with a few minor corrections. Allow me, 1 minute ago, Order of Nine said: It sure is blasphemy, have you heard his latest guitarist!? He can't play a full song without going out of key and he's completely corny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Just now, DieselDaisy said: That works equally as well for Ashba with a few minor corrections. Allow me, I'll drink a case of Ashba water any day over listening to that dork butcher Guns songs while dressing like an extra out of a bad Nelson video. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazorGunner Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, mikeman5150 said: I think the main difference is that GNR are still GNR. Adler is using the GNR name to capitalize. Kinda the same as when nuguns were doing their thing. At least now, Axl, Slash, and Duff are all members. The imagery they have been using is nostalgic, but also iconic, plus they are promoting themselves, as GNR. Adler is clinging to that imagery and isn’t a part of guns anymore, but he’s promoting it like he is He is definitely riding coat tails- using the font, playing all the GNR songs and using a picture that is at least 25 years old. He is capitalizing on GNR's success- which is the only success he has had, even though he hasn't been in the band since 1990. I don't imagine selling VCR copies of Celebrity Rehab would be very profitable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooker Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Order of Nine said: I'll drink a case of Ashba water any day over listening to that dork butcher Guns songs while dressing like an extra out of a bad Nelson video. You seem to have strong feelings about this, have you tried just not listening to this band? Edited April 25, 2018 by cooker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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