New Steven Adler Interview!

[DieselDaisy]

Just now, RazorGunner said:

SADler is not remotely in the same league with Axl- I can't name a single song off all of his lackluster albums. Quantity isn't everything- If quality isn't there, then who cares?

Ditto with Chinese whatsitsface (which is by the way 2008 so ancient history).

1 minute ago, RazorGunner said:

That's your opinion though, Adler has no leverage with GNR, they are filling stadiums and arenas just fine without him, and nobody really cares except a handful of nostalgic old school hard cores on forums. 

And I don't care either way so all is well and good.

 

[DieselDaisy]

1 minute ago, Modano09 said:

He's not essential to anything beyond the vague "sound". Nobody's walking out of those concerts upset because it didn't sound right. 

There was a bootleg that was leaked awhile back, Ritz 1987 if memory serves, and I was instantly reminded of what that band sounded like. I urge you to listen to it. Adler is as important as any of them. 

[Order of Nine]

3 minutes ago, RazorGunner said:

SADler is not remotely in the same league with Axl- I can't name a single song off all of his lackluster albums. Quantity isn't everything- If quality isn't there, then who cares? 

 

That's your opinion though, Adler has no leverage with GNR, they are filling stadiums and arenas just fine without him, and nobody really cares except a handful of nostalgic old school hard cores on forums. 

Ahhh yeah. The quantity over quality approach. Adler must be taken seriously he's released so many albums. 

[DieselDaisy]

2 minutes ago, Order of Nine said:

Nah, Axl actually had the balls to try and do something a bit more out of the pocket unlike Adler and the other alumni.

''Something a bit more out of the pocket''?

Ashba ears in a Vegas casino?

Plying the same setist for eighteen years?

Only releasing one album since 1991?

The guy has done bugger all. You lot act like he is Roger Waters or Lennon when his CV equates him with Jizzy Pearl - in fact Jizzy has probably released a few albums more. Rose is as cheesy and washed-up as Adler. 

[Modano09]

Adler's a career fuck up who spent 30 years whining and complaining from one angle or another trying to get what he wanted. He wanted it to be the old days again but that damn Axl wouldn't let the band get back together. Even when Slash and Duff were happily doing Velvet Revolver, Adler's whining and acting like he's doing it in behave of everyone. Then they do get back together and he's whining about how Duff's judgmental and Slash won't return his calls, until I guess they offered him his guest spots and he shut up. Of course guest spots didn't lead to him getting more of what he wanted, so it was back to the interview circuit to complain about how they didn't let him play enough. Oh, I know, he "wasn't complaining", because he said "it was so much fun, everyone was great" before and after he complained that they wouldn't let him play his songs. So once he realizes THAT didn't get him his way, he's trying to piggy back off them with his "this is what GNR really is" tour, or whatever you call playing the songs of a band that threw you out 30 years ago to 20 people while the actual band continues a record setting grossing tour. 

The guy's a fool. Actually I shouldn't say that, because when it comes to playing the victim and getting his fans to believe what he wants them to, he's no fool. 

1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said:

''Something a bit more out of the pocket''?

Ashba ears in a Vegas casino?

Plying the same setist for eighteen years?

Only releasing one album since 1991?

The guy has done bugger all. You lot act like he is Roger Waters or Lennon when his CV equates him with Jizzy Pearl - in fact Jizzy has probably released a few albums more. Rose is as cheesy and washed-up as Adler. 

It's funny how Axl's failures are still more successful that Axl. 

[Order of Nine]

2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

There was a bootleg that was leaked awhile back, Ritz 1987 if memory serves, and I was instantly reminded of what that band sounded like. I urge you to listen to it. Adler is as important as any of them. 

Obviously at this point the fans who have attended the NITL tour haven't been swayed to lag the attendance numbers on

 

Just now, DieselDaisy said:

''Something a bit more out of the pocket''?

Ashba ears in a Vegas casino?

Plying the same setist for eighteen years?

Only releasing one album since 1991?

The guy has done bugger all. You lot act like he is Roger Waters or Lennon when his CV equates him with Jizzy Pearl - in fact Jizzy has probably released a few albums more. Rose is as cheesy and washed-up as Adler. 

Ok, so your here cause you love Appetite? I happen to love Chinese as well. And yes it was a creative decision to do something different and God forbid leave behind the pentatonic scale for a few minutes or so. Some people aren't happy cooking the same recipe over and over, just because it didn't appease you can't take away from the fact that others enjoy it and can acknowledge the tenacity it took to get that off the ground.

[DieselDaisy]

2 minutes ago, Modano09 said:

Adler's a career fuck up who spent 30 years whining and complaining from one angle or another trying to get what he wanted. He wanted it to be the old days again but that damn Axl wouldn't let the band get back together. Even when Slash and Duff were happily doing Velvet Revolver, Adler's whining and acting like he's doing it in behave of everyone. Then they do get back together and he's whining about how Duff's judgmental and Slash won't return his calls, until I guess they offered him his guest spots and he shut up. Of course guest spots didn't lead to him getting more of what he wanted, so it was back to the interview circuit to complain about how they didn't let him play enough. Oh, I know, he "wasn't complaining", because he said "it was so much fun, everyone was great" before and after he complained that they wouldn't let him play his songs. So once he realizes THAT didn't get him his way, he's trying to piggy back off them with his "this is what GNR really is" tour, or whatever you call playing the songs of a band that threw you out 30 years ago to 20 people while the actual band continues a record setting grossing tour. 

The guy's a fool. Actually I shouldn't say that, because when it comes to playing the victim and getting his fans to believe what he wants them to, he's no fool. 

It's funny how Axl's failures are still more successful that Axl. 

I assume you mean Adler?

If Axl's successes - complete lack of creativity beyond one album between 1991 -2018; playing Vegas with a cock rocker; reuniting with the man he hates for cash - make him worse than a mere drummer who spent the best part of 1989 - 2010 (ish) strung up on the junk, how shit does that make Axl?

[Modano09]

1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said:

I assume you mean Adler?

If Axl's successes - complete lack of creativity beyond one album between 1991 -2018; playing Vegas with a cock rocker; reuniting with the man he hates for cash - make him worse than a mere drummer who spent the best part of 1989 - 2010 (ish) strung up on the junk, how shit does that make Axl?

What success has Adler had? Booking Celebrity Rehab? You can mock the Vegas thing all you want but I don't recall anyone offering Steven Adler a Vegas Residency. 

[DieselDaisy]

4 minutes ago, Order of Nine said:

Obviously at this point the fans who have attended the NITL tour haven't been swayed to lag the attendance numbers on

 

Ok, so your here cause you love Appetite? I happen to love Chinese as well. And yes it was a creative decision to do something different and God forbid leave behind the pentatonic scale for a few minutes or so. Some people aren't happy cooking the same recipe over and over, just because it didn't appease you can't take away from the fact that others enjoy it and can acknowledge the tenacity it took to get that off the ground.

I do not even find that album bold musically. I listen to multiple types of music and that album was a staid. People act like it was ''bold'' but it really wasn't. Yes, many of the songs are actually in minor pentatonic. 

[Order of Nine]

2 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

I assume you mean Adler?

If Axl's successes - complete lack of creativity beyond one album between 1991 -2018; playing Vegas with a cock rocker; reuniting with the man he hates for cash - make him worse than a mere drummer who spent the best part of 1989 - 2010 (ish) strung up on the junk, how shit does that make Axl?

 

Just now, DieselDaisy said:

I do not even find that album bold musically. I listen to multiple types of music and that album was a staid. People act like it was ''bold'' but it really wasn't. Yes, many of the songs are actually in minor pentatonic. 

Yes it was bold, because they did what they wanted in spite of knowing the 80s guns fans would not apperciate it. It's not Appetite that's for dam sure, the direction and sound, lineup, and approach all changed. 

[DieselDaisy]

Just now, Modano09 said:

What success has Adler had? Booking Celebrity Rehab? You can mock the Vegas thing all you want but I don't recall anyone offering Steven Adler a Vegas Residency. 

You're rather pitting excrement against excrement here. What do you want me to say? That I preferred a fat Rose squealing to housewives in Vegas, or Adler off his tits on drugs on reality television? I have not, I admit, formed much of a reply to such a question. Needless to say both represent a relative nadir. 

[DieselDaisy]

1 minute ago, Order of Nine said:

 

Yes it was bold, because they did what they wanted in spite of knowing the 80s guns fans would not apperciate it. It's not Appetite that's for dam sure, the direction and sound, lineup, and approach all changed. 

All I hear on that album is some comical lyrics (''sitting in a chinese stew''), nu-metal rips and beeps. 

It has its moments, here-and-there, but it really is not the album Rose supporters claim it to be. 

[Order of Nine]

8 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

You're rather pitting excrement against excrement here. What do you want me to say? That I preferred a fat Rose squealing to housewives in Vegas, or Adler off his tits on drugs on reality television? I have not, I admit, formed much of a reply to such a question. Needless to say both represent a relative nadir. 

Oh no guns played at Vegas, that completely takes away any legitimacy to thier music! 

You act like this is a hardcore or punk band. A commercial rock band playing Vegas is something your trying to make out to be as career suicide?? 

6 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

All I hear on that album is some comical lyrics (''sitting in a chinese stew''), nu-metal rips and beeps. 

It has its moments, here-and-there, but it really is not the album Rose supporters claim it to be. 

Again. You know nothing about metal if your comparing this to metal. You just can't wrap your head around the fact it's not 80s cock rock anymore and a blues riff. 

 

You don't think ISE lyrics are comical?? Is comical out of the realm of Guns? IUTLH wasn't that a bit comical?

Edited April 26, 2018 by Order of Nine

[DieselDaisy]

Just now, Order of Nine said:

Oh no guns played at Vegas, that completely takes away any legitimacy to thier music! 

You act like this is a hardcore or punk band. A commercial rock band playing Vegas is something your trying to make out to be as career suicide?? 

''Their music''? There was only one bugger left who wrote/recorded the music they were playing!! 

[Order of Nine]

7 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

''Their music''? There was only one bugger left who wrote/recorded the music they were playing!! 

Oh no!!! And that bugged you to death right? You just can't get past that fact?

And NO he was not the only one writing like you wish it to be.

Edited April 26, 2018 by Order of Nine

[Tom-Ass]

13 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

I do not even find that album bold musically. I listen to multiple types of music and that album was a staid. People act like it was ''bold'' but it really wasn't. Yes, many of the songs are actually in minor pentatonic. 

Agreed

[Derick]

2 hours ago, killuridols said:

Yeah, if he considered a reunion tour with the old lineup.

The "old lineup" is a vague term because there is the AFD lineup and the UYI lineup, but in both lineups there was Slash and Duff, so his sayings still apply.

Until now we have no old lineup reunion..It’s not AFD lineup and it’s not Illusions lineup either..IDK, to me it’s the return of two classic/original members (all right, iconic members) but it’s NOT an old lineup reunion, at all! Sorry, Axl’s statement stills valid...But if You consider the current lineup an old GNR lineup, it’s ok. 

[killuridols]

7 minutes ago, Derick said:

Until now we have no old lineup reunion..It’s not AFD lineup and it’s not Illusions lineup either..IDK, to me it’s the return of two classic/original members (all right, iconic members) but it’s NOT an old lineup reunion, at all! Sorry, Axl’s statement stills valid...But if You consider the current lineup an old GNR lineup, it’s ok. 

The current line up is a hybrid, like everything else since 1990.

Either way, Axl said he would never reunite with the old line up and that includes all the GN'R members that were not the lineup from 2012, which is the year Axl made that statement.

[Powderfinger]

40 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

There was a bootleg that was leaked awhile back, Ritz 1987 if memory serves, and I was instantly reminded of what that band sounded like. I urge you to listen to it. Adler is as important as any of them. 

This, if you want to know the difference between then and now watch this show. Adler is GNRs drummer. Not brilliant, not amazing, not Axl. But he’s the best Guns drummer to date.

Edited April 26, 2018 by Powderfinger

[Modano09]

26 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

You're rather pitting excrement against excrement here. What do you want me to say? That I preferred a fat Rose squealing to housewives in Vegas, or Adler off his tits on drugs on reality television? I have not, I admit, formed much of a reply to such a question. Needless to say both represent a relative nadir. 

You can prefer whatever you want, but it's funny when you rattle off embarrassing moments for Axl when they're still better than anything Adler accomplished. Yeah, Axl did a Vegas residency. A lot of artists do that these days. Adler did Celebrity Rehab. Roll, roll, roll the joint!

[Tom2112]

16 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

Agreed

Bold musically because instead of trying to make a safe blues rock or typical hard rock record, THEY (caps because if any record in the history of records was collaborative CD was that, check those liner notes) made a record that went from industrial tinged heavy pop-metal (Shacklers) to epic power ballads to flamenco styled tracks with hip hop loops underneath. Listen to UYI and then listen to Chinese there's a dramatic evolution of the sound, that is why it's considered bold.

[Derick]

1 minute ago, killuridols said:

The current line up is a hybrid, like everything else since 1990.

So, not an old lineup! Finally we agree on something. 

 

3 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Either way, Axl said he would never reunite with the old line up and that includes all the GN'R members that were not the lineup from 2012, which is the year Axl made that statement.

C’mom he played with Duff and Izzy..Your statement it’s from your interpretation.

[Order of Nine]

4 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Bold musically because instead of trying to make a safe blues rock or typical hard rock record, THEY (caps because if any record in the history of records was collaborative CD was that, check those liner notes) made a record that went from industrial tinged heavy pop-metal (Shacklers) to epic power ballads to flamenco styled tracks with hip hop loops underneath. Listen to UYI and then listen to Chinese there's a dramatic evolution of the sound, that is why it's considered bold.

Agreed. Just without the metal comparisons. And the fact that the majority don't care for it and don't like how it's not in the ballpark of Appetite is a clear indication of how bold it is. It's a polarizing album, attempting to mix alot of styles together. There's nothing retro going on especially in the realm of all the 80s nostalgia that was ditched intentionally. 

[Tom-Ass]

35 minutes ago, Order of Nine said:

 

Yes it was bold, because they did what they wanted in spite of knowing the 80s guns fans would not apperciate it. It's not Appetite that's for dam sure, the direction and sound, lineup, and approach all changed. 

They? They were a bunch of hire hands that that were mostly likely getting paid more than they were previously and undoubtedly gaining exposure for themselves being under the name of one of the greatest hard rock bands of all time. Maybe Axl but the argument could easily be made that bold would have been to go at it with out hiding behind the Gn'R name. Doing what he did guaranteed him more publicity and albums sales. You say they were respectable sales but stores just overstocked in the anticipation of the first "Guns N' Roses album in however many years. Decent initial sales but a few weeks later all those CD's were in the 99 cent rack.. I doubt there were any stores that had to restock lol.. Maybe it was $1.99 but either way. 

[Modano09]

7 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

They? They were a bunch of hire hands that that were mostly likely getting paid more than they were previously and undoubtedly gaining exposure for themselves being under the name of one of the greatest hard rock bands of all time. Maybe Axl but the argument could easily be made that bold would have been to go at it with out hiding behind the Gn'R name. Doing what he did guaranteed him more publicity and albums sales. You say they were respectable sales but stores just overstocked in the anticipation of the first "Guns N' Roses album in however many years. Decent initial sales but a few weeks later all those CD's were in the 99 cent rack.. I doubt there were any stores that had to restock lol.. Maybe it was $1.99 but either way. 

To keep it on topic, how have Steven Adler's record sales been? Smashing records I bet.