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The Latest: Syria’s capital rocked by loud explosions

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Latest on U.S.-led missile strikes on Syria (all times local):

9:20 p.m.

Syria’s capital has been rocked by loud explosions that lit up the sky with heavy smoke as U.S. President Donald Trump announced airstrikes in retaliation for the country’s alleged use of chemical weapons.

Associated Press reporters in Damascus saw smoke rising from east Damascus early Saturday morning local time. Syrian state TV says the attack has begun on the capital, though it wasn’t immediately clear what was targeted.

Trump announced Friday night that the U.S., France and Britain have launched military strikes in Syria to punish President Bashar Assad for his alleged use of chemical weapons against civilians and to deter him from doing it again.

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9:15 p.m.

President Donald Trump is warning Russia and Iran about their association with Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad’s government, as he announces the launch of retaliatory strikes after an apparent chemical weapons attack last week.

Speaking from the White House, Trump says, “To Iran and to Russia, I ask: What kind of a nation wants to be associated with the mass murder of innocent men, women and children?”

Trump calls the two countries those “most responsible for supporting, equipping and financing the criminal Assad regime.”

Trump says, “The nations of the world can be judged by the friends they keep.”

He adds ominously, “Hopefully someday we’ll get along with Russia, and maybe even Iran, but maybe not.”

Congressional Democrats who served in the U.S. Armed Forces are calling on President Trump to stop using Twitter to announce national security decisions, particularly in Syria. (April 13)

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9:10 p.m.

President Donald Trump is asking for a “prayer for our noble warriors” as he concludes his remarks announcing strikes on targets associated with the Syrian chemical weapons program.

Trump announced the strikes, in coordination with France and Britain, from the White House Friday night. He said the three nations have “marshaled their righteous power.”

Trump is also offering prayers for the Middle East and for the United States.

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9:05 p.m.

President Donald Trump says he is “prepared to sustain” strikes against Syria until the use of chemical agents stops.

The United States, along with assurance from France and the United Kingdom, launched a response Friday against the regime of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad days after his government allegedly used chemical weapons on its citizens.

But Trump says America does not seek “an indefinite presence” in Syria and will look to pull out its troops once the Islamic State is totally defeated.

Trump has signaled in recent weeks that, despite advice from his national security team, he wanted to accelerate the timetable of the withdrawal of American forces.

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9 p.m.

President Donald Trump says the United States has “launched precision strikes” on targets associated with Syrian chemical weapons program.

Trump spoke from the White House Friday night. He says a “combined operation” with France and the United Kingdom is underway.

Trump says that last Saturday, Syrian President Bashar Assad deployed chemical weapons in what was a “significant escalation in a pattern of chemical weapons use by that very terrible regime.”

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8:55 p.m.

President Donald Trump is set to address the nation Friday night amid anticipation of a retaliatory strike for an apparent Syrian chemical weapon attack last week.

That’s according to a source familiar with the president’s plans, who was not authorized to speak publicly.

Trump has said he will hold the Syrian government, as well as its Russian and Iranian allies, accountable for the suspected attack.

White House spokesman Raj Shah said Friday afternoon that Trump “is going to hold the Syrian government accountable. He’s also going to hold the Russians and the Iranians who are propping up this regime responsible.”

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5 p.m.

The U.S. Navy was moving an additional Tomahawk missile-armed ship within striking range of Syria as President Donald Trump and his national security aides mulled the scope and timing of an expected military assault in retaliation for a suspected poison gas attack.

Trump’s U.N. ambassador, Nikki Haley, said the president had not yet made a final decision, two days after he tweeted that Russia should “get ready” because a missile attack “will be coming” at Moscow’s chief Middle East ally.

The presence of Russian troops and air defenses in Syria were among numerous complications weighing on Trump, who must also consider the dangers to roughly 2,000 American troops in the country if Russia were to retaliate for U.S. strikes.

 

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The British missiles queued up before landing. The French missiles surrendered mid-air. The American missiles fell on Japan by mistake. 

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be careful about what you believe coming from our silver tongued leaders. before you know it, they're leading us to our graves. again.

the west wants peace, "with violence if necessary"

 

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Why didn't we bomb Russia for using chemical weapons in Salisbury?

Or North Korea when nerve agent was used in an Indonesian airport.

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1 hour ago, Axl_morris said:

Why didn't we bomb Russia for using chemical weapons in Salisbury?

Or North Korea when nerve agent was used in an Indonesian airport.

Cuz they'll fight back...and we don't like that :lol:  Proxy wars are better, whats easier, fighting the big bully or slapping up his little mate and hoping the bully don't meet you at the park? :lol:

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3 hours ago, Axl_morris said:

Why didn't we bomb Russia for using chemical weapons in Salisbury?

Or North Korea when nerve agent was used in an Indonesian airport.

Because these were small, isolated attacks directed at political opponents and not whole villages with women and children?

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It is looking like this was just Trump trying to look powerful, he clearly warned Russia of where the attacks would be and most of the targets had been evacuated well before the Air Strikes.  😣

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The US/ GB/ France strikes are just PR moves and will accomplish nothing IMHO....it is a temporary distraction for Trump from the Mueller investigation closing in on him and gives him a chance to show how tough he is and thump his chest.........

The real winner in the whole situatoins is not even alive today and we should not lose sight of why we are where we are today.....Osama Bin Laden must be smiling up in Jannah, hanging with his 72 virgins, about how he sucked the U.S. into a endless wars in the Middle East which is sucking the life out of our economy and dividing our country.

This is an interesting interview with one of his sons in RS magazine back in 2010 which gives us insight into Bin Laden's goals. I cherry picked some of his observations about his fathers thoughts, which are dead on, but the whole article was pretty fascinating IMHO.

It was my father who made Russia poor, in the war in Afghanistan. He ruined their economy. He is doing the same thing to America right now."

I ask Omar what he thinks of Barack Obama. He says the president seems like a very refined man — intelligent, widely read, capable. But he is certain Obama is on the verge of committing a massive error by sending more troops into Afghanistan. "Obama should ask for my advice about Afghanistan," he says. "I could help. But I have to see him personally. I would tell him you can't solve Afghanistan's problems with more soldiers. It is like adding water to sand, as we say in the Arab world — it only makes the sand heavier and messier. If I was in his position, the first thing I would do is make a truce. Then for six months or one year, no fighting, no soldiers. Afghanistan can never be won. It has nothing to do with my father. It is the Afghan people."

"I was still in Afghanistan when Bush was elected," he continues. "My father was so happy. This is the kind of president he needs — one who will attack and spend money and break the country. Even Bush's own mother says he is the biggest idiot boy of his family. I am sure my father wanted McCain more than Obama. McCain has the same mentality as Bush. My father would be disappointed because Obama get the position."

"Do you think Obama can win in Afghanistan?"

"Out of what you see," Omar asks, "what do you think?"

"Will there be more attacks?" I ask, "I don't think so," Omar says. "He doesn't need to. As soon as America went to Afghanistan, his plan worked. He has already won." As Omar sees things, his father had destroyed the Soviet empire. Now, nearly a decade after 9/11, his father's vision for an America of economic ruin and a soul-sapping war in Afghanistan has come to pass. As far as Omar is concerned, his father has brought ruin to two empires. 

 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/osamas-prodigal-son-20100120 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, classicrawker said:

The US/ GB/ France strikes are just PR moves and will accomplish nothing IMHO....it is a temporary distraction for Trump from the Mueller investigation closing in on him and gives him a chance to show how tough he is and thump his chest.........

The real winner in the whole situatoins is not even alive today and we should not lose sight of why we are where we are today.....Osama Bin Laden must be smiling up in Jannah, hanging with his 72 virgins, about how he sucked the U.S. into a endless wars in the Middle East which is sucking the life out of our economy and dividing our country.

This is an interesting interview with one of his sons in RS magazine back in 2010 which gives us insight into Bin Laden's goals. I cherry picked some of his observations about his fathers thoughts, which are dead on, but the whole article was pretty fascinating IMHO.

It was my father who made Russia poor, in the war in Afghanistan. He ruined their economy. He is doing the same thing to America right now."

I ask Omar what he thinks of Barack Obama. He says the president seems like a very refined man — intelligent, widely read, capable. But he is certain Obama is on the verge of committing a massive error by sending more troops into Afghanistan. "Obama should ask for my advice about Afghanistan," he says. "I could help. But I have to see him personally. I would tell him you can't solve Afghanistan's problems with more soldiers. It is like adding water to sand, as we say in the Arab world — it only makes the sand heavier and messier. If I was in his position, the first thing I would do is make a truce. Then for six months or one year, no fighting, no soldiers. Afghanistan can never be won. It has nothing to do with my father. It is the Afghan people."

"I was still in Afghanistan when Bush was elected," he continues. "My father was so happy. This is the kind of president he needs — one who will attack and spend money and break the country. Even Bush's own mother says he is the biggest idiot boy of his family. I am sure my father wanted McCain more than Obama. McCain has the same mentality as Bush. My father would be disappointed because Obama get the position."

"Do you think Obama can win in Afghanistan?"

"Out of what you see," Omar asks, "what do you think?"

"Will there be more attacks?" I ask, "I don't think so," Omar says. "He doesn't need to. As soon as America went to Afghanistan, his plan worked. He has already won." As Omar sees things, his father had destroyed the Soviet empire. Now, nearly a decade after 9/11, his father's vision for an America of economic ruin and a soul-sapping war in Afghanistan has come to pass. As far as Omar is concerned, his father has brought ruin to two empires. 

 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/osamas-prodigal-son-20100120 

 

 

How the fuck was Rolling Stone interviewing his son?!? :lol:  Surely they'd be in a deprivation chamber somewhere!  On a side note, you can never win in Afghanistan, no one can.  The only way to beat Afghans is to wipe them out and create a whole new society there, bring an Adam and an Eve in.

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6 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Because these were small, isolated attacks directed at political opponents and not whole villages with women and children?

That's rather naive tbh. America does the same things as the monsters they fight.

P.S. Military Industrial Complex. Vested interests. Situations like this are a little more complicated than it's all down to the CIA trained cartoon villain, who's allegedly dead no less.

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I'm certainly not defending Assad but you can rather see how Muslim countries think there is a western global conspiracy against them: Afghanistan, Iraq, now Syria. Even the disgusting Blair creature had the audacity show his face, providing justification for the airstrikes!  

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Well, it's a start, but Assad will just find another way to make his people suffer.

The world has to make a decision to take this guy out and put in a new regime.

I thought Russia was going to shoot down any missiles. Guess Putin is all talk. He picked the wrong side because Putin is just as evil as Assad.

Watch the footage of what the gas does to people, especially children and then maybe some of you will change your mind on how to deal with this crazy monster.

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13 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Well, it's a start, but Assad will just find another way to make his people suffer.

The world has to make a decision to take this guy out and put in a new regime.

I thought Russia was going to shoot down any missiles. Guess Putin is all talk. He picked the wrong side because Putin is just as evil as Assad.

Watch the footage of what the gas does to people, especially children and then maybe some of you will change your mind on how to deal with this crazy monster.

You don't know what you're talking about.

"It's a start?" for what? "The world has to make a decision to take this guy out and put in a new regime." Ah...a repeat of business as usual which has at best exacerbated the conflicts and at worst created them. Well, I don't need your civil war. If I was your tyrant and I went to war I'd put people like you on the front fucking lines.

 

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1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said:

That's rather naive tbh. America does the same things as the monsters they fight.

They use chemical attacks on civilians?

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38 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

The world has to make a decision to take this guy out and put in a new regime.

Because our other attempts at this have worked so well. :rolleyes:

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35 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

They use chemical attacks on civilians?

They do all kinds of things. Many things. Here's one; they use irradiated bullets(unnecessarily) so much in Iraq that now children born there have birth defects. America doesn't give a fuck about kids, not really.
 

 

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13 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

They do all kinds of things. Many things. Here's one; they use irradiated bullets(unnecessarily) so much in Iraq that now children born there have birth defects. America doesn't give a fuck about kids, not really.
 

 

I see a difference between using ammunition based on depleted uranium in warfare against military target that MAY affect civilians, and the deliberate attack on civilians with chemical weapons. Not that I approve of either, and not that I am a fan of US intervention in the Middle East. I just can't equal Assad with USA. 

I also don't see how we can sit idle by while civilians are subjected to mass murder. Not that I automatically defend the attacks by USA, England or France. Just that something has to be done. I certainly will not condemn these attacks just because USA has done bad before. 

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34 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

I see a difference between using ammunition based on depleted uranium in warfare against military target that MAY affect civilians, and the deliberate attack on civilians with chemical weapons. Not that I approve of either, and not that I am a fan of US intervention in the Middle East. I just can't equal Assad with USA. 

I also don't see how we can sit idle by while civilians are subjected to mass murder. Not that I automatically defend the attacks by USA, England or France. Just that something has to be done. I certainly will not condemn these attacks just because USA has done bad before. 

If you unnecessarily dump a lot of radioactive material across an entire country and then shrug it off "lololol woopsie, we thought it MAY affect civilians..." Bullshit. Regardless, it fucking has, are you going to help them? "...we thought it MAY affect them, so, fuck no we're not helping them." NOT GOOD ENOUGH. The argument could be made that America is actually worse tbh. Russia bad, America bad, New Zealand bad, Australia bad etc. What I can't stand is people whipping up hysterics and fear mongering and war mongering because they want to feel like the good guys.

And that's just one example. Napalm. Nuking Japan. The list goes on and I'm not going to recite it.

Do we actually even know who did the attack and whether it was a deliberate attack on civilians? I heard on the news the other day that France apparently has proof, what is their proof? Because I don't just immediately believe everything I hear on TV.

"Something has to be done." Yeah but I don't think hypocritical morals and values and waging war should be it.

"I also don't see how we can sit by while civilians are subjected to mass murder." Me either but we do it all the time with Africa. We do it all the time with a lot of places. Why is this any different? Here's me taking a stab in the dark at figuring it out:
"Syria is the only significant crude oil producing country in the Eastern Mediterranean region, which includes Jordan, Lebanon, Israel and the Palestinian territories. According to the Oil and Gas Journal, Syria had 2,500,000,000 barrels (400,000,000 m3) of petroleum reserves as of 1 January 2010."

What is Syria's main export?
The bulk of Syrian imports have been raw materials essential for industry, agriculture, equipment, and machinery. Major exports include crude oil, refined products, raw cotton, clothing, fruits, and cereal grains.

The plot thickens. USA, UK and France all have interests in oil. They also have an interest in preventing Russia's interests one of which is oil. Also, Military Industrial Complex. It really doesn't take a genius to see through this kind of shit.

These kind of situations are about money and power.
 

 

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47 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

I see a difference between using ammunition based on depleted uranium in warfare against military target that MAY affect civilians, and the deliberate attack on civilians with chemical weapons. Not that I approve of either, and not that I am a fan of US intervention in the Middle East. I just can't equal Assad with USA. 

I also don't see how we can sit idle by while civilians are subjected to mass murder. Not that I automatically defend the attacks by USA, England or France. Just that something has to be done. I certainly will not condemn these attacks just because USA has done bad before. 

The world sits by every day while, not only are civilians  murdered but also,  millions starve to death every year..........trust me I am no fan of Assad but let's not pretend he is the only bad guy in the world.......nobody would give a shit about what is going on in Syria if it was not for the oil........

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38 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

If you unnecessarily dump a lot of radioactive material across an entire country and then shrug it off "lololol woopsie, we thought it MAY affect civilians..." Bullshit. Regardless, it fucking has, are you going to help them? "...we thought it MAY affect them, so, fuck no we're not helping them." NOT GOOD ENOUGH. The argument could be made that America is actually worse tbh. Russia bad, America bad, New Zealand bad, Australia bad etc. What I can't stand is people whipping up hysterics and fear mongering and war mongering because they want to feel like the good guys.

And that's just one example. Napalm. Nuking Japan. The list goes on and I'm not going to recite it.

Do we actually even know who did the attack and whether it was a deliberate attack on civilians? I heard on the news the other day that France apparently has proof, what is their proof? Because I don't just immediately believe everything I hear on TV.

"Something has to be done." Yeah but I don't think hypocritical morals and values and waging war should be it.

"I also don't see how we can sit by while civilians are subjected to mass murder." Me either but we do it all the time with Africa. We do it all the time with a lot of places. Why is this any different? Here's me taking a stab in the dark at figuring it out:
"Syria is the only significant crude oil producing country in the Eastern Mediterranean region, which includes Jordan, Lebanon, Israel and the Palestinian territories. According to the Oil and Gas Journal, Syria had 2,500,000,000 barrels (400,000,000 m3) of petroleum reserves as of 1 January 2010."

What is Syria's main export?
The bulk of Syrian imports have been raw materials essential for industry, agriculture, equipment, and machinery. Major exports include crude oil, refined products, raw cotton, clothing, fruits, and cereal grains.

The plot thickens. USA, UK and France all have interests in oil. They also have an interest in preventing Russia's interests one of which is oil. Also, Military Industrial Complex. It really doesn't take a genius to see through this kind of shit.

These kind of situations are about money and power.
 

 

You seriously don't see any difference between nations that go through extraordinary, very expensive measures using smart weapons to specifically target military targets, in order to minimize civilian casualties vs. nations that have no regard for civilian casualties....or worse yet, specifically target civilian targets by the use of chemical weapons?  

By your logic, the U.S. and its allies might as well use nuclear weapons, since there's no difference between what we do vs. what Assad does.

 

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32 minutes ago, Kasanova King said:

You seriously don't see any difference between nations that go through extraordinary, very expensive measures using smart weapons to specifically target military targets, in order to minimize civilian casualties vs. nations that have no regard for civilian casualties....or worse yet, specifically target civilian targets by the use of chemical weapons?  

By your logic, the U.S. and its allies might as well use nuclear weapons, since there's no difference between what we do vs. what Assad does.

"Something has to be done." Yeah but I don't think hypocritical morals and values and waging war should be it." - Oldest Goat

Did you seriously read this^^^ and think my god...by his logic we may as well wage nuclear war? I didn't say I see no difference, better the devil you know after all. But I like Americans and I don't think you're all bad. When I said I can't stand people wanting to pretend to simply be the good guys, it goes both ways, I can't stand people wanting to pretend people are simply the bad guys(whether that's America or Russia or whoever). Logic, reason, compassion is what we should strive for. We are not in a movie for fucks sake. But you're going to use the drone program of all things for the moral highground...seriously? lol. :facepalm:

This is what I'm talking about. You want to be the good guy. "extraordinary, very expensive measures using smart weapons to specifically target military targets, in order to minimize civilian casualties". You don't understand the Military Industrial Complex. People make money from that shit, the only people who lose it are tax payers and your/my overlords don't give a fuck about the tax payers lol.

 

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1 hour ago, classicrawker said:

The world sits by every day while, not only are civilians  murdered but also,  millions starve to death every year..........trust me I am no fan of Assad but let's not pretend he is the only bad guy in the world.......nobody would give a shit about what is going on in Syria if it was not for the oil........

That could be the main reason Russia has interest in Syria...in order to maintain a presence in the region, etc.  But the theory that the U.S. is interested in the region just for oil, including Iraq, is a myth.  The vast majority of the oil contracts from Iraq went to China...some even to Russia.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/world/article24747388.html

 

The region (Iraq, Syria), generally speaking, is too unstable for U.S. oil companies.  They'd rather get their oil from other, more stable regions, that would not affect their stock prices if something went wrong.  That's why China ended up with most of the oil. (They don't have to answer to shareholders if something "goes wrong" in the region).  Same exact thing would go for Syria. 

 

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9 hours ago, classicrawker said:

The US/ GB/ France strikes are just PR moves and will accomplish nothing IMHO....it is a temporary distraction for Trump from the Mueller investigation closing in on him and gives him a chance to show how tough he is and thump his chest.........

The real winner in the whole situatoins is not even alive today and we should not lose sight of why we are where we are today.....Osama Bin Laden must be smiling up in Jannah, hanging with his 72 virgins, about how he sucked the U.S. into a endless wars in the Middle East which is sucking the life out of our economy and dividing our country.

This is an interesting interview with one of his sons in RS magazine back in 2010 which gives us insight into Bin Laden's goals. I cherry picked some of his observations about his fathers thoughts, which are dead on, but the whole article was pretty fascinating IMHO.

It was my father who made Russia poor, in the war in Afghanistan. He ruined their economy. He is doing the same thing to America right now."

I ask Omar what he thinks of Barack Obama. He says the president seems like a very refined man — intelligent, widely read, capable. But he is certain Obama is on the verge of committing a massive error by sending more troops into Afghanistan. "Obama should ask for my advice about Afghanistan," he says. "I could help. But I have to see him personally. I would tell him you can't solve Afghanistan's problems with more soldiers. It is like adding water to sand, as we say in the Arab world — it only makes the sand heavier and messier. If I was in his position, the first thing I would do is make a truce. Then for six months or one year, no fighting, no soldiers. Afghanistan can never be won. It has nothing to do with my father. It is the Afghan people."

"I was still in Afghanistan when Bush was elected," he continues. "My father was so happy. This is the kind of president he needs — one who will attack and spend money and break the country. Even Bush's own mother says he is the biggest idiot boy of his family. I am sure my father wanted McCain more than Obama. McCain has the same mentality as Bush. My father would be disappointed because Obama get the position."

"Do you think Obama can win in Afghanistan?"

"Out of what you see," Omar asks, "what do you think?"

"Will there be more attacks?" I ask, "I don't think so," Omar says. "He doesn't need to. As soon as America went to Afghanistan, his plan worked. He has already won." As Omar sees things, his father had destroyed the Soviet empire. Now, nearly a decade after 9/11, his father's vision for an America of economic ruin and a soul-sapping war in Afghanistan has come to pass. As far as Omar is concerned, his father has brought ruin to two empires. 

 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/osamas-prodigal-son-20100120 

 

 

Since you think Osama Bin Laden's thoughts are "dead on" you think that Osama Bin Laden crippled Russia and ended the cold war? :lol:

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