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Was Wayne's World anyone else's favorite childhood movie? I got the movie on VHS through McDonalds, back when Mickey D's sold movies, sometime in late '93 or early '94, my sister got it for me, and by April '94 I was singing the theme song happily and enthusiastically on our home movies and I wore out the VHS tape with repeated views over the next several years. It's still a movie that despite how cheesy or dated it may seem today, it's comforting to watch and brings me back to the happiest times of my childhood everytime I watch it.

Wayne's World and Look Who's Talking were probably the biggest movies of my childhood.

Same for me with Ghostbusters.

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The Partys Over - Oliver Reed

This rich yank bird comes over to England gets involved with some dodgy Chelsea beatniks (led by Olly) so her financee comes looking for her and can't find her and the beatniks lead him on a wild goose chase until the horrible truth slowly starts to unfold.

Crackin' 60s movie with Oliver Reed at his menacing best, walking around looking like a fucking bear in Salvation Army clobber with all these beatniks around him. It's sort of dated but only by way of the characters being caricatures of wild youth of the day, still beautifully filmed with a great, very moral storyline.

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Ive seen most of em before, just going through a recap, some are on youtube, some torrents and some bought and paid for, takes a bit of dedication but i love Olly Reed so its worth it :)

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Nah man, couldn't if i wanted to, lots of em are unavailable or out of print, the films of his i've seen are from since the age of 13. He's slowly becoming like, a forgotten legend, famous more for pissed antics when he was one of the greatest actors this country has ever produced and he did untold good for and broke many barriers in British Film.

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I think its Castaway hes known for. I can see the poster in my mind.

British film is pretty thin in terms of being known. Nobody even understands Four Weddings and a funeral. Do Americans care about Carry On films or Benny Hill.

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He's known really for Women in Love, The Devils, I'll Never Forget Whatsisname, The System, Oliver!, The Debussy Film...with lots n lots of other gems besides. I think he has more presence than any other british actor since, Larry Olivier levels of presence.

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Yeah, no, you gotta be a least somewhat into Oliver Reed or from that time to've heard of them. But thats the beauty of all that stuff man, it's sort like...between the cracks stuff. More people have heard of em than you give em credit for i mean, in the 70s he was like the biggest actor in England for a while there, films like Hannibal Brooks, Women in Love, The Devils were HUGE movies of their time, people like Ken Russell and Michael Winner made their name alongside Oliver Reed and he with them.

I love em though man, it's a lot more relevant to me than any of the old Hollywood bollocks, not that i don't love that with all my heart and soul but...see i can watch The Partys Over or I'll Never Forget Whatsisname or even films like Sparrahs Can't Sing or some of the Kitchen Sink Realism stuff like Look Back In Anger and Saturday Night and Sunday Morning and A Taste of Honey and they're somewhat familar to me, y'know? I feel like they're about something that has something to do with me.

A lot of those films actually, those Kitchen Sink ones, Morrissey references the fuck out of em, to me they're like our history, i feel bound to watch those films and it just so happens that by watching em i love em to bits, in many ways they are superior to a lot of the Hollywood films and European films of the time, it's like a history thats being forgotten or ignored by a vast cross-section of cinema-goers cuz it ain't like, y'know, the fuckin' tasters choice of what is considered classic, some fuckin' corny Hollywood bit with unrealistic characters and improbable storylines. Not that i don't love that golden age love it dearly it's just...i always wanna see the between the cracks the stuff, the stuff on the wrong side of the rock, something different, there was a lot more going on in those eras than just like...Redford and Newman or whatever.

Check out a film called The Hunting Party with Gene Hackman and Oliver Reed, it's a western and a fuckin' belter of a western too. Or Sitting Target that i was telling you about the other day. It's at least as good as The Long Good Friday and Get Carter etc.

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Watched:

The Trap - Oliver Reed, Rita Tushingham, an adventure movie about this mute girl (she became mute when her family were raped by Indians, thats feathers not dots :lol:) that gets bought by Oliver Reed who plays this french Canadian mountain man trapper who is um, not very well versed in the how you treat women. Anyway, he basically buys her off her stepmother who sells her to Oliver Reed to make back some money that Olly came and claimed back off her father that he owed him over some deal they had that her old man was tryna welch on. Anyway he buys her, takes her home, tries to shag her, gets attached, puts her through all sorts of shit, teaches her to hunt and fend for herself and all that and slowly they start to grow closer but she still won't give him a tumble cuz she's scarred by the memory of what happened to her mother. Anyway one day he goes out and accidentally gets caught in a bear trap and chased by packs of wolves and makes it home half fucked and she tends to him and brings him back to good health and...i don't ruin the ending so i'm gonna stop there :lol:

But anyway, REALLY good movie, not sure what to make of it actually, it's either the most mysogynist sexist movie ever made or a sort of pro-woman feminist piece. I mean, Oliver Reed plays a man thats like a inch shy of a caveman, he's someone who doesn't have much human contact most months a year so he's like...very cavemanish and engages in what could politely be referred to as abuse against her but then later he ends up becoming total reliant on her, physically and emotionally so...yeah, not sure what side of the fence it's on, it's curious.

Maybe it's neither and it's just a fucking film :lol:

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I suppose my real life is like Hollyoaks so no real film ever connects with me other stuff like Trainspotting or Traffic. This Is England. But im into myths and legends. So it really is just whether ive done the research. Ive saturday night and a lot of kitchen sink stuff. Powell, Pressburger.

I started Hollywwod Sex Wars. It looks fucked.

Theres something to be said strong stories though in an age of void 3D movies.

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Castaway? See now thats more of your straightforward misogyny, i see Ollys filmography as similar to Clint Eastwood as in being on long exploration of the vagaries of masculinity...only not premediated, by default, by virtue of who he was and in being so, somewhat purer than Clints.

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Rem Guy Ritchie made that movie with Madonna which really was a copy of Castaway. It was called Swept away.

Didnt Reed audition to play Bond at some point.

Always think of Brando in terms of masculinity and Jack in terms of being a repressed porn star.

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Y'know, i always wanted to see that film, i make a point of seeing all the legendary ploppers of our times although i've not seen Showgirls and Waterworld yet i saw Gigli and Jersey Girl, i must watch Castaway.

Yeah apparently Olly was pretty close to being Bond, not sure how that would've worked out to be honest. I could see him taking it somewhere really interesting actually because what gets lost in a lot of the poncing about and posturing with Bond is that he's actually meant to be an assassin. Early on Oliver, before he got too burly i think would've been fantastic...and he had the accent naturally (he has a very interesting bloodline actually, does Olly, his grandfather, Beerbohm Tree founded The Royal Academy of Dramatic Arts RADA and he is a direct descedent, bastard descedent, of Peter the Great) as opposed to Scottish Sean and Roger Moore of Stockwell, South London (even though Olly was from Wimbledon).

And he was exceptional at action scenes, just watch his as Athos in The Three Musketeers or any of the films, he has a really naturalistic aplomb and a stuntmans ability to launch himself and because of his big frame it looks all the more spectacular onscreen.

But who knows, he potentially could've made an absolute balls of it. There's a movie of his The Assasination Bureau that he made that i think was around the time of his being scouted for Bond in which he plays the leader of an Assassination group, although it's a comedy it's kinda dark comedy and it was a little window into Ollys viability for Bond but alas, weren't meant to be.

He got offered a role in The Sting too but turned it down apparently.

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Bond with a beard. Connery turned up looking like a bum to the audition. But they daid shave and comeback tomorrow. Shcertainly.

Ive seen Three Musketeers.

Jennifers Body is pretty solid piece of shit. Basic Instinct 2 is also stunning.

Waterworld isnt bad it was over budget by 100 mil.

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Basic Insinct 2, see, i have no idea why i didn't RUSH to go see that film, considering what the first one meant to me as a teenager :lol: In fact, i'll have to do that, i'm bunging them on the list and sweeping through em this week, Showgirls, BI 2, Jennifers Body. I'm gonna allow Waterworld cuz, well...there's shit and then there's just taking the piss :lol:

Basic Instinct 2 though, fuck man, why have i not watched that? Jeanne Triplehorn was fit as fuck in the first one. Michael Douglas turns up to a nightclub with a St Michaels sweater on and nothing underneath, baaad boooooyyy :lol:

So whats the story now, Catherine Trammell writes another book? :lol:

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Accidental Tourist. You can try but you will fail.

I have no idea but it was Awesome if not better BI.

Showgirls is brilliant. Watch out for the aqua fuck. Robocop is shit.

Jennifers Body was just terrible in an empty directionless way. But hey Megan Fox.

Jersey Girl was just a bit too soppy.

Congo is very poor its no Jurasic Park. But its watchable.

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