DieselDaisy Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 2 hours ago, Len Cnut said: I see hes sorting his reverse swing out in that pic Speaking of cricket, where is your family from? I'm re-reading that book on Pakistani cricket, and am quite good on the geography of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Speaking of cricket, where is your family from? I'm re-reading that book on Pakistani cricket, and am quite good on the geography of the country. Azad Kashmir, a villiage about 2 hours from the district of Kotli...bet you dont know nothing about that area . Not really Pakistan, its the disputed territory of Kashmir. Edited October 2, 2016 by Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Azad Kashmir, a villiage about 2 hours from the district of Kotli...bet you dont know nothing about that area Oh, you are from the, ehh, ''disputed area'' haha - I have it on my map. War seems imminent there again incidentally (hence that Corrie actor's outburst) but that goes without saying. The great two areas for cricket are Lahore and Karachi; Lahore is home to the Burkis who of course produced Imran Khan, although the Burkis originally lived in Jullunder in pre-partition India. Karachi is home to the Mohammad dynasty (e.g. Hanif). It might surprise some, given that it is now a national obsession, how little cricket existed beyond those two key areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) 46 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Oh, you are from the, ehh, ''disputed area'' haha - I have it on my map. War seems imminent there again incidentally (hence that Corrie actor's outburst) but that goes without saying. The great two areas for cricket are Lahore and Karachi; Lahore is home to the Burkis who of course produced Imran Khan, although the Burkis originally lived in Jullunder in pre-partition India. Karachi is home to the Mohammad dynasty (e.g. Hanif). It might surprise some, given that it is now a national obsession, how little cricket existed beyond those two key areas. My Mums from Pakistan though oddly not too in a way cuz she was born in the 'disputed territory' but lives in a village half an hour from the district of Kahuta in Pakistan. Karachi and Lahore and big cosmopolitan cities and miles away from the remote outback shithole I'm from . Karachi is more than a days drive away, Lahore aint local either. But yeah, I'm from the heart of terrorist country . Imran Khan is a pathan from Mianwali near Lahore. A very very tribal bunch. Edited October 2, 2016 by Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 25 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: My Mums from Pakistan though oddly not too in a way cuz she was born in the 'disputed territory' but lives in a village half an hour from the district of Kahuta in Pakistan. Karachi and Lahore and big cosmopolitan cities and miles away from the remote outback shithole I'm from . Karachi is more than a days drive away, Lahore aint local either. But yeah, I'm from the heart of terrorist country . Imran Khan is a pathan from Mianwali near Lahore. A very very tribal bunch. You do realise that India wants your arsehole! Imran is one of the Burkis. His mother is this matriarch of a cricketing dynasty which produced three Pakistan captains, and dozen more test players! Imran went to Aitchison College which is considered the 'Eton of Pakistan', pure unadulterated British (Victorian) public school values. It still exists today, five minutes from Imran's childhood home - make sure you watch the Imran Khan documentary on Sky with Michael Atherton. One thing that comes about reading the book is, the Partition is this big fault line. You had Muslim cricketers who had played for India, pre-Partition, in the Nawob of Pataudi's teams, who suddenly found themselves having to decide to play for India or Pakistan. Some of them - like the Burkis - were born in the modern India, and had fled at a time of atrocities, Hindi attacking Muslim and stealing their homes (and vice versa). When Pakistan first toured India in the '50s, many of the team were visiting their childhood homes for the first time since Partition. Hanif Mohammad incidentally just recently died. One thing I realised is, Kardar's Pakistan were shaped from the same fabric as Jinnah's Pakistan, this intermingling of state and cricket team, (progressive) Islam and nationalism. It was a paradox however as the guy who set up the Pakistan cricket board was a christian - a chap called Cornelius - and there was the odd Hindi cricketer! AH Kardar liked a good drink and hobknobbed with people like Harold Macmillan and Keith Miller. He saw no contradiction between Islamic national renewal and this 'player lifestyle' - and the British Oxbridge values he had. This is very similar to Jinnah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Dark Road Home by Anna Carlisle It's her first book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Rose Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The Secret Life of Bees by Sue Monk Kidd, for the third time -- love this book. I always lend it out and it always finds it way back to me, even if years later. Haven't seen the movie and I won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Bob Dildos only won the Nobel Prize for Literature...what Literatures he written then? Other than a vague and non-commital autobiography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Rose Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 13 hours ago, Len Cnut said: Bob Dildos only won the Nobel Prize for Literature...what Literatures he written then? Other than a vague and non-commital autobiography. I vaguely recall hearing something about the criteria being broadened to include lyricists because the original storytellers and wordsmiths, in ancient times, crafted their work to accompany music.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Anatomy of the State - Rothbard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I actually have a book of Dylan's lyrics on my shelf. When you consider the fact that German Lieder of the late 18th and 19th centuries - Schubert and Schumann, etc - was essentially music put to the works of Goethe, Schiller, Sir Walter Scott and Shakespeare, a fairly good case can be made, of lyrics being literature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 6 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: I actually have a book of Dylan's lyrics on my shelf. When you consider the fact that German Lieder of the late 18th and 19th centuries - Schubert and Schumann, etc - was essentially music put to the works of Goethe, Schiller, Sir Walter Scott and Shakespeare, a fairly good case can be made, of lyrics being literature. I suppose so. Shakespeare is very musical in general, aiambic pentameter and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 hours ago, Len Cnut said: I suppose so. Shakespeare is very musical in general, aiambic pentameter and all that. Poof! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlsFavoriteRose Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Len Cnut said: I suppose so. Shakespeare is very musical in general, aiambic pentameter and all that. have you ever heard of or see any of this? it's a musical about Shakepeare and some other stuff ( i just mainly care about Christian Borle in the role of Will S. ) love the end of Will Power..him saying good bye to the audience....Good Night..Good Night etc Edited October 14, 2016 by AxlsFavoriteRose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Dazey said: Poof! Im not fuckin' suprised with the videos you keep sending me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Im not fuckin' suprised with the videos you keep sending me I have no idea what you mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Dazey said: I have no idea what you mean! Fuckin hilairious though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 20 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Fuckin hilairious though! Howay Geoffrey, get yer dick out!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) that was fuckin' grim! Edited October 14, 2016 by Len Cnut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 So, we've reached the stage of Dazey and Len sharing gay porn with each other and wanking off on webcams. I can hardly claim to be shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 11 hours ago, PappyTron said: So, we've reached the stage of Dazey and Len sharing gay porn with each other and wanking off on webcams. I can hardly claim to be shocked. Well its given me a new lease of life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 16 hours ago, Len Cnut said: I suppose so. Shakespeare is very musical in general, aiambic pentameter and all that. It was German translations of Shakespeare and Scott which filtered through the continent in the 18th century. The German Romantics, your literary as well as the great composers, were obsessed with Shakespeare, seeing his works, particularly his tragedies, as a repository for all they aspired to: emotive, Gothic, fragmentary (as opposed to restrained, classical, finite). They found this in Shakespeare and the works of Sir Walter Scott - Scott's stock on the continent was gigantic. Probably Shakespeare was being read more by European Romantics than he was by the English, as the French Romantics, people like Dumas, Delacroix and Berlioz (of a slightly later period admittedly), also worshiped Shakespeare, and English Romanticism adopted a slightly different trajectory and flavour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 14 hours ago, Dazey said: Poof! He is a cultured sod isn't he? Schwarzenegger fan there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 2 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: He is a cultured sod isn't he? Schwarzenegger fan there. I don't do no book learnin' ! 14 hours ago, PappyTron said: So, we've reached the stage of Dazey and Len sharing gay porn with each other and wanking off on webcams. I can hardly claim to be shocked. Not gay porn per se but very fuckin' grim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: It was German translations of Shakespeare and Scott which filtered through the continent in the 18th century. The German Romantics, your literary as well as the great composers, were obsessed with Shakespeare, seeing his works, particularly his tragedies, as a repository for all they aspired to: emotive, Gothic, fragmentary (as opposed to restrained, classical, finite). They found this in Shakespeare and the works of Sir Walter Scott - Scott's stock on the continent was gigantic. Probably Shakespeare was being read more by European Romantics than he was by the English, as the French Romantics, people like Dumas, Delacroix and Berlioz (of a slightly later period admittedly), also worshiped Shakespeare, and English Romanticism adopted a slightly different trajectory and flavour. I think I'm 10% gayer just for reading that. Edited October 15, 2016 by Dazey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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