Slash on Eddie Trunk right now talking about Duff/Axl reunion

[Anahzul]

(...) Those who were lucky enough to see the real band in their glory days knows what I'm talking about.

Yeah, but those glory days won't come back again...

Of course they won't. Just like Guns N' Roses is not just Axl and a bunch of revolving session musicians.

Yeah, like VR. Another band of revolving musicians. Things change.

Scott was sacked but other than that there have been no other personnel changes as far as I know? You know something we don't?

VR is another band that couldn't keep its lineup.

[WhazUp]

But there is a big difference between losing one member of a band and losing all but one member of a band.

[Bumble's Bridge Pickup]

Or like saying any PF album after Waters left isn't legit.

[moreblack]

Or like saying any PF album after Waters left isn't legit.

Really wasn't was it?

they were ok, but didn't really sound like PF as much.

Edited November 2, 2010 by moreblack

[Bumble's Bridge Pickup]

The albums were released under the name PF, therefore they are PF albums. That's all justification it needs IMO. (Same applies for Chinese Democracy - and it goes both ways, if Slash owned the name GN'R, I'd have no problem with him using the name. It's just a name ffs.)

[WhazUp]

This is where people disagree. It doesn't matter if axl broke up the band or if slash broke up the band, people on this forum can't agree on what the band name represents and defines

[phaeryen]

Its funny, Slashs career has devolved into being a commentator. Being a commentator of whatever Axl does.

I bet Axl feels pretty awesome about that. Considering what the situation looked like from 1996-2008 ...

[Nintari]

The albums were released under the name PF, therefore they are PF albums. That's all justification it needs IMO. (Same applies for Chinese Democracy - and it goes both ways, if Slash owned the name GN'R, I'd have no problem with him using the name. It's just a name ffs.)

Technically yes, but it's the fans/people of the world that get to decide what they do and don't believe.

[moreblack]

Its funny, Slashs career has devolved into being a commentator. Being a commentator of whatever Axl does.

Yeah, you wouldn't believe the number of times he brings Axl up on his twitter and on stage on the last tour...

[Bumble's Bridge Pickup]

The albums were released under the name PF, therefore they are PF albums. That's all justification it needs IMO. (Same applies for Chinese Democracy - and it goes both ways, if Slash owned the name GN'R, I'd have no problem with him using the name. It's just a name ffs.)

Technically yes, but it's the fans/people of the world that get to decide what they do and don't believe.

Well yeah. I'm not taking anyone's right away to call the current band The Axl Rose Experience, call it Glitter Force, call it The Ghetto Six or whatever they want to.

Edited November 2, 2010 by Jyrgen

[Nintari]

The albums were released under the name PF, therefore they are PF albums. That's all justification it needs IMO. (Same applies for Chinese Democracy - and it goes both ways, if Slash owned the name GN'R, I'd have no problem with him using the name. It's just a name ffs.)

Technically yes, but it's the fans/people of the world that get to decide what they do and don't believe.

Well yeah. I'm not taking anyone's right away to call the current band The Axl Rose Experience, call it Glitter Force, call it The Ghetto Six or whatever they want to.

I like to call it "Axl Rose and the super fun time happy band" myself...but that's just me.

[moreblack]

Its funny, Slashs career has devolved into being a commentator. Being a commentator of whatever Axl does.

I bet Axl feels pretty awesome about that. Considering what the situation looked like from 1996-2008 ...

Seriously? I'm sure Slash is doing just fine. He's going to get a questions about Axl every time he does an interview. Axl would get the same if he did interviews with anyone besides Del.

If anything, Axl brings up Slash more often unprompted by the person asking questions...

[Christian]

(...) Those who were lucky enough to see the real band in their glory days knows what I'm talking about.

Yeah, but those glory days won't come back again...

Of course they won't. Just like Guns N' Roses is not just Axl and a bunch of revolving session musicians.

Yeah, like VR. Another band of revolving musicians. Things change.

Are you actually comparing losing 1/5 of a band to losing 4/5 of a band? So if Dave Kushner somehow "fired" all the other guys and paid a bunch of session musicians to fill in, I guess that would be Velvet Revolver too?

You have to do better than that, little kid.

[*GNR*]

This is my first time posting on this forum; i have been an observer for over 5 years now and it has been an interesting experience.

I only want to add my 2cents on the "Reunion Topic" without getting into the politics of who is right or wrong regarding Axl and Slash or who is my favourite.

I tend to look at things from what is possible across an entire range of things and what is not possible; as it stands i cannot see a Reunion happening for many reasons that people here have already stated.

The current lineup seems happy performing (all be it some unhappy comments made by BBF about the late starts). As has been said, Axl has control and does not have to really answer to anyone, plus the current band has stood by him for a pretty long time now, so i don't see him dropping them to recreate something that ended badly the first time around.

A Reunion would totally change everything and honestly i cannot see Axl or Slash meeting half-way; it's either one way or the other and that is really the answer; it cannot happen.

What i can see is a slim (and i stress slim) possibility of a one-off show, very small in length that will cost whoever wants this thing to happen an amazing amount of dollars with the original lineup.

Just a one-off would propel the band back into the spotlight like nothing we've seen since the early 90's; it has great positives for Axl in that he will kind of be back in the mainstream, but once he would return to the new lineup i think the problems of people saying that they want the original lineup would be coming from every direction and would more than likely destroy what he has worked so hard to build for the last 10-12 years, so for this reason only i don't see it happening.

This is just my opinion, i'm not trying to put this across like i know anything that Axl and Slash are thinking, i could be completely wrong, but i just really wanted to express my feeling/opinion on this topic with everyone. Thanks for reading...

[trqster]

This is my first time posting on this forum; i have been an observer for over 5 years now and it has been an interesting experience.

I only want to add my 2cents on the "Reunion Topic" without getting into the politics of who is right or wrong regarding Axl and Slash or who is my favourite.

I tend to look at things from what is possible across an entire range of things and what is not possible; as it stands i cannot see a Reunion happening for many reasons that people here have already stated.

The current lineup seems happy performing (all be it some unhappy comments made by BBF about the late starts). As has been said, Axl has control and does not have to really answer to anyone, plus the current band has stood by him for a pretty long time now, so i don't see him dropping them to recreate something that ended badly the first time around.

A Reunion would totally change everything and honestly i cannot see Axl or Slash meeting half-way; it's either one way or the other and that is really the answer; it cannot happen.

What i can see is a slim (and i stress slim) possibility of a one-off show, very small in length that will cost whoever wants this thing to happen an amazing amount of dollars with the original lineup.

Just a one-off would propel the band back into the spotlight like nothing we've seen since the early 90's; it has great positives for Axl in that he will kind of be back in the mainstream, but once he would return to the new lineup i think the problems of people saying that they want the original lineup would be coming from every direction and would more than likely destroy what he has worked so hard to build for the last 10-12 years, so for this reason only i don't see it happening.

This is just my opinion, i'm not trying to put this across like i know anything that Axl and Slash are thinking, i could be completely wrong, but i just really wanted to express my feeling/opinion on this topic with everyone. Thanks for reading...

Great post! Agree 100%!

[Frozen Inferno]

good first post. I dont know about slash and axl doing an entire show together but 3 - 4 songs maybe (maybe less). that'd be it.

Edited November 3, 2010 by Frozen Inferno

[Guest siliconmessiah]

But after all:

Axl has made clear that he never, ever again will share a stage with Slash.

That Slash is a "cancer".

That death will come for them both before without them ever sharing a stage together again.

So *sigh* I don´t see how this Axl/Slash-reunion thread got up & running again.

What is hard to understand? Axl even made his way to this message-board, stating his view on the subject.

Axl and Slash will not perform together. Ever.

They are not friends.

They will never be again.

They will never do music together.

They will never share a stage again.

They will not compose anything as a pair.

Edited November 3, 2010 by siliconmessiah

[Orsys]

Many count on the 'never say never' philosophy for GnR.

[Guest siliconmessiah]

Many count on the 'never say never' philosophy for GnR.

Maybe that goes for GnR.

But Slash ain´t GnR, and therefore, never will be.

Edited November 3, 2010 by siliconmessiah

[saulhudson88]

Many count on the 'never say never' philosophy for GnR.

Maybe that goes for GnR.

But Axl ain´t GnR, and therefore, never will be.

you're right

[31illusions]

is there a link to this interview please?

[RocknRoller]

As much talented as they might be, we're talking about Guns N' Roses, not Axl and friends.

No actually, you wanna check the register.

Or even wikipedia.

The current line-up is Guns N' Roses. The old line-up were Guns N' Roses.

They won't even come close to the 'old' GN'R...

But than again, besides some handfull of people on the forums, nobody sees this version as GN'R.

+1

The Axlites are so brainwashed that it's just funny. They kinda remind me of religious people who constantly bitch about "There's is a god and I don't care about logic thinking" bla bla bla. You just can't talk sense into their easily manipulative heads, just like the Axlites on these boards...

Guns N' Roses need five ingredients to be complete, and those ingredients are Steven, Duff, Slash, Izzy and Axl. Right now Guns N' Roses is just like a pizza with no cheese, tomato sause, oregano or meat. Pretty fucking boring in other words.

Blindly believing in reunion till kingdom comes, despite all the flip-flops of a false prophet is the dumbest of all fan religions.'Gn'R is Steven, Duff, Slash,Izzy and Axl' is as much the religious mantra of the Slashites/Reunionites as ' God so loved the world that he gave his only 123 so that you may believe in him and have everlasting life' or ' Hear O 456, your God is one' or 'there is no God but ABC and XYZ is his prophet'. Religious frenzy can blind very similar but different beliefs into thinking that their way is the truth and everything else is crap.

Times running out. A world tour feat. the real GN'R would be something

Yep, times running out and it'll never happen. How do I know? Slash had dug himself into a grave to much to just call Axl up and be like, "yo wanna reunite?" He has manipulated the public media in the defense that Axl wanted full control and he was this little kid who just wanted to play rock music. For all we know, It seems that Sash cared about himself than Guns N' Roses, even so far as to leave to do his own solo project in the middle of the recording process of the next album after the Illusions.

He also seems to be saying things like Axl has to do this, do that. Sound pretty "shut up and sing" to me.

Since Axl denied the material, claiming it was just "blues riff and nothing else," he to record himself, little did he know that Axl would want them latter with Slash to say "too late."

He even would say things like "Stephanie Seymour ballads," and he just can't stop saying how much he can't stand Sweet Child O' Mine.

He, unlike Axl, is very inconsistent and changes his story all the time. Just like with the Axl house story he said. First he went over his house, then he say's he was drove by Perla to talk to Axl, then he says he left him a note. Which one is it? It just never seems like Slash is generally saying what he feels sometime.

One week he'll say he'll never reunite, no matter how much they put on the table, than in a few weeks he say's how much he thinks Axl Rose is a good musician.

And now with all the fisaco with Axl being late at the Reading and Dublin shows, he probably felt it was a good time to say he couldn't stand Axl going on late. Even to say that GN'R going on late when Duff was there left "a bad taste in his mouth." But Duff, in his interveiw, didn't mention anything about that. It's seems Slash may have been jealous or bitter.

In my view, and even if he says he will never reunite, if Axl called Slash to do one show, he would fly across the globe for it. He's been living off other the GN'R name forever. Even to go so far as to still wear the top hat, braclets, and leather pants. Slash looks like ACDC sounds, because he had wore the same stuff for 20 years. He's more of a image now that a musician, always wearing the top hat and cigeratte. Even Axl tried to reinvent himself with the braid, Slash hasn't even cut his hair in the last 14 years. Or atleast ditched the leather pants, um someone please tell Slash it's 2010, not 1987.

In my opinion, Slash is a master manipulater, always painting Axl as the band guy and always has to make little gabs, or a song (Crucify the Dead) about him.

Like I said before, I think Slash has dug himself to deep in a hole for Axl to reunite with him. Everybody wants a reunion besides Axl because Axl doesn't wanna throw in the flag. He's has built the new GN'R from the ground up for him to just throw them away. He has to much pride and intergrity to just throw everything he's said and played with to the curb for the man he has hated for nearly 15 years and some extra money.

If anything, a charity concert or the RN'R Hall of Fame cerimony is probably the only time we'll see them together.

Exactly. All this reunion talk and support for Slash by his apologists, pigheadedly ignores the fact that there are two people here who CANNOT get along with each other, with one of them viscerally hating the other and seeing him as a chronic liar and an inveterate, manipulative cheat. It doesn't matter that they were thick as brothers or shared a lot of things and gave the world beautiful music. To use an analogy, if you were to compare Axl and Slash to a husband and wife who were once in a marriage - this is just like people who fall in love and get married and have children and get divorced. In some cases, the two people involved, perhaps after a long time, can still be friends again ( if this were Axl and Duff), but it isn't). In other cases, no matter what length of time, if things happened acrimoniously and they continue to toss barbs at each other through other people (Axl and Slash) , they may never ever talk to each other again. No matter how great it was when they were together or how great the sex was or how many great kids they had or how many friends they had in common, they will never EVER get back together - maybe, if they do for a romp in the hay for old times sake, even if it's good fun, they may just realize how crazy things were and that they cannot stand each others company.

Axl cannot stand Slash and Slash continues to rile him.

Taking this analogy further and going back to the religion comparison.

The Axlites are like kids who choose to side with one parent, say the Dad,and are okay living with his new spouse and the Slashites are like kids who choose to blame that parent and have issues with his new wife and still pray every night that Daddy and Mommy patch up and just find a way to get along. The Axlites are practical and the Slashites/Reunionites are the ones living in some make believe religious/fantasy world..

Bottom line - no matter how much anyone wishes for a reunion and no matter how great or not so great it might be, it's extremely unlikely. The people who aren't enjoying the music that we are getting now are just chronic whiners who aren't happy and just want to whine loud enough to let everyone know that they aren't.

how TRUE this is,slash is a manipulating,lying,showboat, who changes his stories routinely, is stuck in his "image" and tried for years to make Axl the villian in the breakup, fuck this mediawhore!

[Nintari]

Everytime I hear the chorus to Sorry, I always laugh because it's obvious that even Axl facepalms at our inner Slash vs. Axl warfare. Seriously people, it's like...no one's ever going to win that debate. Stop being idiots.

[Atlas Shrugged]

its just not VR anymore without scott, slash needs to get rid of the hired hands and get scott back.

[Guest Sleeping Like An Angel]

Are you actually comparing losing 1/5 of a band to losing 4/5 of a band? So if Dave Kushner somehow "fired" all the other guys and paid a bunch of session musicians to fill in, I guess that would be Velvet Revolver too?

You have to do better than that, little kid.

Sorry but what the hell is the story behind your sig?