Why do you think Axl is so apprehensive to release new music?

[sailaway]

I hate to bring this up but old Guns made LOT of music videos and why hasn't new Guns done nothing?? Just thinking...

Apparently Axl has had videos made and paid for them (according to David Wild) so what I don't get is why they weren't released around the time the songs were put out officially...

Thats just a plain waste of money...

And it's not your money, so why complain? You didn't work for it,or earn it.

Is this the Twilight Zone,or the Outer Limits? Delusional concepts seem to be contageous.

It's district attorney Sailaway in action!!!

Why thank you Young Guns, all those years of tuning into Perry Mason reruns,Ironside,watching CSI,Law & Order, etc. as well as a few Interactions with the judicial system were learning experiences.

[Chewbacca]

I hate to bring this up but old Guns made LOT of music videos and why hasn't new Guns done nothing?? Just thinking...

Apparently Axl has had videos made and paid for them (according to David Wild) so what I don't get is why they weren't released around the time the songs were put out officially...

Thats just a plain waste of money...

And it's not your money, so why complain? You didn't work for it,or earn it.

Is this the Twilight Zone,or the Outer Limits? Delusional concepts seem to be contageous.

OMG, again, dude I'm not complaining! Nor am I demanding something! I just don't understand why he would have them made but not release them. Am I just not allowed to question/ponder that?

Fuckin hell...

Nope, you are not.

That's what I deal with on a daily basis in here!

A simple comment will get you labeled all kinds of funny things.

You are NOT allowed to have an opinion in this forum, unless you only worship everything Axl does. Best to not even try and defend your comment - that will just make these people freak out even more.

Well, today I just got labelled gay for listening for more than 15 secs of a Sixx AM record

[Nosaj Thing]

I hate to bring this up but old Guns made LOT of music videos and why hasn't new Guns done nothing?? Just thinking...

Apparently Axl has had videos made and paid for them (according to David Wild) so what I don't get is why they weren't released around the time the songs were put out officially...

Thats just a plain waste of money...

And it's not your money, so why complain? You didn't work for it,or earn it.

Is this the Twilight Zone,or the Outer Limits? Delusional concepts seem to be contageous.

OMG, again, dude I'm not complaining! Nor am I demanding something! I just don't understand why he would have them made but not release them. Am I just not allowed to question/ponder that?

Fuckin hell...

You can't argue with old people. Old people are always right, old people make no mistake, that's why they're old people.

[KiraMPD]

I hate to bring this up but old Guns made LOT of music videos and why hasn't new Guns done nothing?? Just thinking...

Apparently Axl has had videos made and paid for them (according to David Wild) so what I don't get is why they weren't released around the time the songs were put out officially...

Thats just a plain waste of money...

And it's not your money, so why complain? You didn't work for it,or earn it.

Is this the Twilight Zone,or the Outer Limits? Delusional concepts seem to be contageous.

OMG, again, dude I'm not complaining! Nor am I demanding something! I just don't understand why he would have them made but not release them. Am I just not allowed to question/ponder that?

Fuckin hell...

Nope, you are not.

That's what I deal with on a daily basis in here!

A simple comment will get you labeled all kinds of funny things.

You are NOT allowed to have an opinion in this forum, unless you only worship everything Axl does. Best to not even try and defend your comment - that will just make these people freak out even more.

You know what? This is getting stupid. I'm ignoring both you and sailaway (maybe even Dazey, Soul Monster, MSL and others while I'm at it), people just seem to have gone round the bend the last few days.

Peace out.

[saber_]

Why do you think Axl is so apprehensive to release new music?

Because people cupcake him on the internet.

I thought you always said our words do not dictate his actions though?

I haven't "always said" anything nubcake. Axl said it in one of the chats. I just occasionally quote him without a citation to goof on a thread's discussion. A true guns n roses fan would recognize when someone is quoting a line from Axl. =b

And anyway there's a difference between dictating his actions and him accepting suggestions on his own volition.

[Young_Gun]

Why do you think Axl is so apprehensive to release new music?

Because people cupcake him on the internet.

I thought you always said our words do not dictate his actions though?

I haven't "always said" anything nubcake. Axl said it in one of the chats. I just occasionally quote him without a citation to goof on a thread's discussion. A true guns n roses fan would recognize when someone is quoting a line from Axl. =b

And anyway there's a difference between dictating his actions and him accepting suggestions on his own volition.

You keep reiterating it man, that's more than enough to know you share the same notion. You specifically said he doesn't release music due to people trolling him on the internet cheese tits and now you are going in circles saying he is accepting suggestions on his own violation. Good one.

[The Wicked Hand]

I have a few suggestions.

[One.In.A.Million]

I mean people are perplexed as to Axls' hesitantness to release new music, what about the Better video?. The whole saga with that video is something that I thought was entirely unpleasant, as it was something that we was told was coming, then it was on hold for a while, then we had that drama about Lars siging off on some footage...... I mean damn rediculous.

An album is in another league, and in my view it was a form of a miracle how we got Chinese Democracy.

And it all comes down to this.....like it or not (and I LOVE this band). GN'R is a band that for whatever reason struggles to do things in a easy, and straight forward fashion. Nothing is ever simple, and things have to be a lengthy and unneccesary process.

Probably the same reasons as to why alot of members like Bucket, Robin and Josh quit.

Edited March 23, 2012 by One.In.A.Million

[wasted]

And it's pretty obvious that Twat, Prostitute and Catcher never made it into the regular set because he screws the pooch on them almost every time and the ones that did make it in (Sorry and TIL) are the ones he finds easiest to sing. How sad is it to think we'll probably never get a great live recording of the greatest, most epic songs on Chinese? And what hope does that give for him singing other challenging material he recorded anything up to 12 years ago when he was 39 a la Twat?

but they do Estranged. I might be more too many epics. I saw twat it was great. not like that children.

[saber_]

Why do you think Axl is so apprehensive to release new music?

Because people cupcake him on the internet.

I thought you always said our words do not dictate his actions though?

I haven't "always said" anything nubcake. Axl said it in one of the chats. I just occasionally quote him without a citation to goof on a thread's discussion. A true guns n roses fan would recognize when someone is quoting a line from Axl. =b

And anyway there's a difference between dictating his actions and him accepting suggestions on his own volition.

You keep reiterating it man, that's more than enough to know you share the same notion. You specifically said he doesn't release music due to people trolling him on the internet cheese tits and now you are going in circles saying he is accepting suggestions on his own violation. Good one.

Why so serious? I'm glad you solved the apparently-mensa-level riddle which was that I share the same notion as Axl. Bravo! Unfortunately, you seem to have forgotten a few things.

1. This is an ITW thread. My first post, which "specifically" said because people cupcake him on the internet, was a fuckin joke. Interesting you would interpret it literally and then wage some bizarre campaign to prove me wrong. Which brings me to
   
2. AXL'S ACTIONS AREN'T DICTATED BY OTHERS, numbnuts! No Slash, no reunion, no promotion, no new songs on tour, all the things people bitch about, all the things people (like you) say he should be doing differently... Well golly gee, I'm gonna go out on a limb and claim that Axl really doesn't let people dictate his actions. How this is complicated for you, I will never know (actually I do know, this is probably some 'operation' to get me banned so you can be popular at gunsfnroses or something).
   
3. I said volition, not violation. When Axl accepts fans' suggestions (such as playing Estranged, Civil War), that's different than having his actions dictated to him.
   

So it would appear that it's you who's thinking yourself in circles. Not all my posts are srs bzns as they are for you. My signature says "more cowbell" and my avatar is always a star wars character for christsakes, but perhaps those, too, are obscure clues that only a mensa member could decipher. :eyeroll:

[Young_Gun]

Why do you think Axl is so apprehensive to release new music?

Because people cupcake him on the internet.

I thought you always said our words do not dictate his actions though?

I haven't "always said" anything nubcake. Axl said it in one of the chats. I just occasionally quote him without a citation to goof on a thread's discussion. A true guns n roses fan would recognize when someone is quoting a line from Axl. =b

And anyway there's a difference between dictating his actions and him accepting suggestions on his own volition.

You keep reiterating it man, that's more than enough to know you share the same notion. You specifically said he doesn't release music due to people trolling him on the internet cheese tits and now you are going in circles saying he is accepting suggestions on his own violation. Good one.

Why so serious? I'm glad you solved the apparently-mensa-level riddle which was that I share the same notion as Axl. Bravo! Unfortunately, you seem to have forgotten a few things.

1. This is an ITW thread. My first post, which "specifically" said because people cupcake him on the internet, was a fuckin joke. Interesting you would interpret it literally and then wage some bizarre campaign to prove me wrong. Which brings me to
   
2. AXL'S ACTIONS AREN'T DICTATED BY OTHERS, numbnuts! No Slash, no reunion, no promotion, no new songs on tour, all the things people bitch about, all the things people (like you) say he should be doing differently... Well golly gee, I'm gonna go out on a limb and claim that Axl really doesn't let people dictate his actions. How this is complicated for you, I will never know (actually I do know, this is probably some 'operation' to get me banned so you can be popular at gunsfnroses or something).
   
3. I said volition, not violation. When Axl accepts fans' suggestions (such as playing Estranged, Civil War), that's different than having his actions dictated to him.
   

So it would appear that it's you who's thinking yourself in circles. Not all my posts are srs bzns as they are for you. My signature says "more cowbell" and my avatar is always a star wars character for christsakes, but perhaps those, too, are obscure clues that only a mensa member could decipher. :eyeroll:

Sure champ Why would I want to get you banned off this site anyway? You do no harm lol. Only if you use insults etc will I report you. I don't post on gnfnr.com frequently either, too biased for me.

[saber_]

Oh I know you'll report me mister narc. Although with all due respect, I do think it was massively hypocritical of you to tattle on me (a while back) after you yourself had levied plenty of moderation-worthy insults in the same damn thread. But hey, i give you credit for working the system. It was quite brilliant actually: have a flamewar with me, then tattle on me and portray me as the bad guy. I didn't even bother telling the mod all the shit you had said, because the way he phrased his PM to me, it was obvious he saw right through your attempt to get me in big trouble for behavior you were exhibiting too.

Edited March 23, 2012 by Popcorn's Timbre

[Young_Gun]

Popcorn, again, if no insults are flung at me, I won't report

you. I do not deny reporting you prior, but do believe it was within my right to do so. I would report anyone that would call me dipshit, wanker etc etc.

[dalsh327]

Why do you think Axl is so apprehensive to release new music? Is it because the record company doesn't give a shit about New GNR albums after Chinese Democracy or does it all boil down to Axl's sense of perfectionism? I find it hard to believe that CD II needs more than a mix and mastering to be ready for release.

I don't think he's apprehensive. I just think he's not done "working" Chinese yet.

While WE (dedicated fans who follow the band closely) may be ready to move on to the next album, clearly Axl isn't. He spent a very long time working on Chinese, it's release was completely botched, and maybe it's important to him to tour it properly around the world before moving on to the next project.

Every show GNR plays is a chance to turn more people on to the Chinese stuff.

Many of us have heard Chinese Democracy front to back a hundred times (or more). Many of us have seen the band play some of the songs live for the last ten years. Some of us listened to leaks of most of the album a year or two before it was out.

But we are the minority.

They're starting to get into covering a lot of familiar ground this year, I thought UCAP made the mistake of going back to cities they played in the fall. To me, instead of playing Terminal 5, should've gone out to Huntington and played the new theater, or played the HOB in San Diego instead of one of the LA venues, and just ventured out to cities and towns that are more devoted hard rock strongholds. NY was timed around Fashion Week, but a short Long Island trip would've guaranteed a sold out show. I think they should've tried to get a better idea of what cities to have hit up for the club tour. They could easily do a Vegas residency around the Electronics/Porn expo, or book a show in Irvine when NAMM was going on.

Axl prob. has those songs ready to be released, and odds are the next one will be a mix of those songs as well as new ones that this band will bring to the table. No one's going to give him the advance money he got for AFD or UYI unless he goes with Geffen again.

GNR are a band without a rekkid label. 6 albums, plus the live and greatest hits. The money's in touring, and I think he's trying to put off going back in the studio until a label approaches him with a decent deal. I just don't think he's going to get what he wants, or what he's had in the past. Most established artists are happy just to be on a Starbucks shelf.

3 1/2 years later, I think he's past blaming record companies on how they released it. He took the check from Best Buy, he did little to promote it, but I think he should have waited to get feedback from the fans before he went in the forums. I think that it's cool that he wanted to know what the fans thought, but it is an album that demands repeated listening, because there's a lot going on.

[Nicc]

Another I believe (if it hasn't been discussed already) is that some of those songs are what we say "very personal" (about others) and maybe he's moved on from that and/or what or how he's felt about certain folks in the past and maybe by releasing the music that may would have been CD pt 2 or 3 would re-open some things for him, and maybe he wouldn't want that at the moment or in the near future.

Or that part of the "old" new band is gone and him releasing music without them there......

aw hell I dunno, speculating is just so fun isn't it lol!

[sailaway]

Why do you think Axl is so apprehensive to release new music?

Because people cupcake him on the internet.

I thought you always said our words do not dictate his actions though?

I haven't "always said" anything nubcake. Axl said it in one of the chats. I just occasionally quote him without a citation to goof on a thread's discussion. A true guns n roses fan would recognize when someone is quoting a line from Axl. =b

And anyway there's a difference between dictating his actions and him accepting suggestions on his own volition.

You keep reiterating it man, that's more than enough to know you share the same notion. You specifically said he doesn't release music due to people trolling him on the internet cheese tits and now you are going in circles saying he is accepting suggestions on his own violation. Good one.

Why so serious? I'm glad you solved the apparently-mensa-level riddle which was that I share the same notion as Axl. Bravo! Unfortunately, you seem to have forgotten a few things.

1. This is an ITW thread. My first post, which "specifically" said because people cupcake him on the internet, was a fuckin joke. Interesting you would interpret it literally and then wage some bizarre campaign to prove me wrong. Which brings me to
   
2. AXL'S ACTIONS AREN'T DICTATED BY OTHERS, numbnuts! No Slash, no reunion, no promotion, no new songs on tour, all the things people bitch about, all the things people (like you) say he should be doing differently... Well golly gee, I'm gonna go out on a limb and claim that Axl really doesn't let people dictate his actions. How this is complicated for you, I will never know (actually I do know, this is probably some 'operation' to get me banned so you can be popular at gunsfnroses or something).
   
3. I said volition, not violation. When Axl accepts fans' suggestions (such as playing Estranged, Civil War), that's different than having his actions dictated to him.
   

So it would appear that it's you who's thinking yourself in circles. Not all my posts are srs bzns as they are for you. My signature says "more cowbell" and my avatar is always a star wars character for christsakes, but perhaps those, too, are obscure clues that only a mensa member could decipher. :eyeroll:

HA! Holy Fuckin shit P.T.

Some don't/can't catch subtle + ironic,much less sarcasm.

[Flayer]

OMG, again, dude I'm not complaining! Nor am I demanding something! I just don't understand why he would have them made but not release them. Am I just not allowed to question/ponder that?

Fuckin hell...

Nope, you are not.

That's what I deal with on a daily basis in here!

A simple comment will get you labeled all kinds of funny things.

You are NOT allowed to have an opinion in this forum, unless you only worship everything Axl does. Best to not even try and defend your comment - that will just make these people freak out even more.

Problem?

[sailaway]

OMG, again, dude I'm not complaining! Nor am I demanding something! I just don't understand why he would have them made but not release them. Am I just not allowed to question/ponder that?

Fuckin hell...

Nope, you are not.

That's what I deal with on a daily basis in here!

A simple comment will get you labeled all kinds of funny things.

You are NOT allowed to have an opinion in this forum, unless you only worship everything Axl does. Best to not even try and defend your comment - that will just make these people freak out even more.

Problem?

Priceless Flayer :lol:

I'm looking for this on a Tshirt!

Edited March 25, 2012 by sailaway

[wasted]

There's no point in having an opinion unless someone disagrees.

[sailaway]

There's no point in having an opinion unless someone disagrees.

True,peace and sanity are boring.

[amacfantasy]

Honestly with Axl who knows why he might be apprehensive? But like iv said before all signs that we get all point to him not being able to handle the pressures and stress that come along with releasing new music including the criticism that might follow. The thing is from my point of view, releasing more music can only help his situation or people's perception of him around the world, because where he has left off or is currently is not a spot he wants to end his career (and i dont mean this in that the last music released was bad).

Edited March 25, 2012 by amacfantasy

[wasted]

Acl must have some plans. It feels a bit like there's unfinished business with CD.

Edited March 25, 2012 by wasted

[sailaway]

Acl must have some plans. It feels a bit like there's unfinished business with CD.

Yeah,this may sound nit-picky but I'd like the approved booklet released somehow,the one that came w/album was inferior in every way.

[The Wicked Hand]

Yea I been itchin for that proper booklet,.........wait, what!!!?!?

[31illusions]

I believe Axl doesn't release music because he DOESN'T HAVE TO. He also wants all control over everything. He is more than rich therefore he has

no reason to release anything if he chooses not to. He tries to control his managers and the record company by making demands that no normal artist

would. Axl only cares about himself, not you, not the money and not the record company. The music is HIS until he gives it to the the record company

and he knows that. End of story.