Band will play the album 'Appetite For Destruction' in its entirety?

[arnold layne]

So the guy that is by far the most responsible for the album shouldn't do anything to celebrate it, but if Slash grabbed Gilby and did the same thing you morons would cream your panties in a heartbeat? The fucking stupidity here is astronomical.

Hopefully it replaces the covers.

But Slash isn't doing the same thing, is he?

Well he did once for the GUNS N' ROSES HALL OF FAME INDUCTION which sounds quite appropriate to play GUNS N' ROSES MUSIC.

[Ali]

The Activision lawsuit was not about bitching and moaning about the past. The issue is breach of contract.

Yes it is.

The 'breach of contract' was Axl's disapproval of having Slash on the cover because it is false misrepresentation of Guns N' Roses, which is a joke in itself because he is only playing songs Slash helped write during the Vegas shows. Sounds a little contradictory right?

No, it isn't.

The reason why the judge will let this go to trial is because there is a valid claim of breach of contract. There is no valid claim that I've ever heard of to allow a lawsuit to go to trial to merely bitch and moan about the past. The Vegas shows, which have not happened yet and as such the setlists are unknown, are completely irrelevant to the lawsuit.

Ali

[arnold layne]

The Activision lawsuit was not about bitching and moaning about the past. The issue is breach of contract.

Yes it is.

The 'breach of contract' was Axl's disapproval of having Slash on the cover because it is false misrepresentation of Guns N' Roses, which is a joke in itself because he is only playing songs Slash helped write during the Vegas shows. Sounds a little contradictory right?

No, it isn't.

The reason why the judge will let this go to trial is because there is a valid claim of breach of contract. There is no valid claim that I've ever heard of to allow a lawsuit to go to trial to merely bitch and moan about the past. The Vegas shows, which have not happened yet and as such the setlists are unknown, are completely irrelevant to the lawsuit.

Ali

The breach of contract was Activision using Slash as a representation of Guns N' Roses. Axl is playing Guns N' Roses songs Slash helped write. Axl doesn't want Slash to represent Guns N' Roses, yet he is playing Slash's songs.

arnold

Edited August 15, 2012 by arnold layne

[HisRoyalSweetness]

is it possible that axl was paid in buffet coupons? maybe it's not about the music at all. maybe it's about the mountains of all you can eat lamb.

[volcano62]

The Activision lawsuit was not about bitching and moaning about the past. The issue is breach of contract.

Yes it is.

The 'breach of contract' was Axl's disapproval of having Slash on the cover because it is false misrepresentation of Guns N' Roses, which is a joke in itself because he is only playing songs Slash helped write during the Vegas shows. Sounds a little contradictory right?

No, it isn't.

The reason why the judge will let this go to trial is because there is a valid claim of breach of contract. There is no valid claim that I've ever heard of to allow a lawsuit to go to trial to merely bitch and moan about the past. The Vegas shows, which have not happened yet and as such the setlists are unknown, are completely irrelevant to the lawsuit.

Ali

The breach of contract was Activision using Slash as a representation of Guns N' Roses. Axl is playing Guns N' Roses songs Slash helped write. Axl doesn't want Slash to represent Guns N' Roses, yet he is playing Slash's songs.

arnold

They are not "Slash songs"

They are GNR songs.

Axl = GNR

Cool?

[Birk]

There goes hearing TWAT or Prostitute, FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChineseDemocracy2004]

Guns should play the entire of Chinese Democracy instead and cupcake the audience (or even pull a Weezer by playing Appetite in it's entirety at one show and during their next show play Democracy in it's entirety).

In a perfect world this scenario should have been something the appetite band could have done.

Commemorate the anniversary by playing a run of shows and then go their separate ways afterwards.

Hell, if Axl surprised us all and got Slash to play Sweet Child during an encore...could you imagine?

I understand why the band are doing this, Rush played Moving Pictures in it's entirety last year as did Roger Waters with The Wall as well as Metallica with The Black Album this year so this isn't uncommon.

I'm sure whoever goes to these shows will have a great time and I'm jealous of you all already because you're going to get the fast version of You're Crazy and Anything Goes!

Does anybody else wonder what this anniversary run could have been like with Bucket and Robin?

I love the band now and I have no problems with them but DJ, Richard and Ron play the solos (more or less) note for note whereas Bucket and Robin did their own interpretations.

If the two of them where still in the band maybe we'd get that re-done version of the album that the band recorded before starting up again in 2001. A modern take if you will.

"This new band can play the f*ck out of these songs" - Axl Rose, 2001.

During 2001/02 10 out the album's 12 tracks were played at every show.

I'll stop now.

Edited August 15, 2012 by ChineseDemocracy2004

[Nosaj Thing]

The Activision lawsuit was not about bitching and moaning about the past. The issue is breach of contract.

Yes it is.

The 'breach of contract' was Axl's disapproval of having Slash on the cover because it is false misrepresentation of Guns N' Roses, which is a joke in itself because he is only playing songs Slash helped write during the Vegas shows. Sounds a little contradictory right?

No, it isn't.

The reason why the judge will let this go to trial is because there is a valid claim of breach of contract. There is no valid claim that I've ever heard of to allow a lawsuit to go to trial to merely bitch and moan about the past. The Vegas shows, which have not happened yet and as such the setlists are unknown, are completely irrelevant to the lawsuit.

Ali

The breach of contract was Activision using Slash as a representation of Guns N' Roses. Axl is playing Guns N' Roses songs Slash helped write. Axl doesn't want Slash to represent Guns N' Roses, yet he is playing Slash's songs.

arnold

They are not "Slash songs"

They are GNR songs.

Axl = GNR

Cool?

No, you're the only one assuming that Axl = Gn'R but without Slash, Izzy and Duff AFD wouldn't exist.

pi2loc

[Ali]

The Activision lawsuit was not about bitching and moaning about the past. The issue is breach of contract.

Yes it is.

The 'breach of contract' was Axl's disapproval of having Slash on the cover because it is false misrepresentation of Guns N' Roses, which is a joke in itself because he is only playing songs Slash helped write during the Vegas shows. Sounds a little contradictory right?

No, it isn't.

The reason why the judge will let this go to trial is because there is a valid claim of breach of contract. There is no valid claim that I've ever heard of to allow a lawsuit to go to trial to merely bitch and moan about the past. The Vegas shows, which have not happened yet and as such the setlists are unknown, are completely irrelevant to the lawsuit.

Ali

The breach of contract was Activision using Slash as a representation of Guns N' Roses. Axl is playing Guns N' Roses songs Slash helped write. Axl doesn't want Slash to represent Guns N' Roses, yet he is playing Slash's songs.

arnold

No, that is not correct. The breach of contract occurred when Activision agreed that they would not use any likeness of Slash or VR songs in conjunction with Guns N' Roses material in order to secure Axl's agreement to license "Welcome to the Jungle".

Beyond that, the rest of your argument lacks any logic I can follow and I can only point out that that songs you are referring to are not "Slash's" songs, and that Slash himself routinely plays old GN'R material that he did not solely author at his solo shows.

Ali

[Damn_Smooth]

So the guy that is by far the most responsible for the album shouldn't do anything to celebrate it, but if Slash grabbed Gilby and did the same thing you morons would cream your panties in a heartbeat? The fucking stupidity here is astronomical.

Hopefully it replaces the covers.

But Slash isn't doing the same thing, is he?

Well he did once for the GUNS N' ROSES HALL OF FAME INDUCTION which sounds quite appropriate to play GUNS N' ROSES MUSIC.

But these same people were slobbering all over his cock for that shitty HoF performance that included none of the most important GN'R members. At least Axl's band has 1. Both of them if Izzy wants to play, and tickets are a lot cheaper than the HoF were.

I am completely against Beta's Vegas vacation, but anyone that didn't expect this based on the description that was let out should probably be castrated. You're far too stupid to breed.

[Nosaj Thing]

So the guy that is by far the most responsible for the album shouldn't do anything to celebrate it, but if Slash grabbed Gilby and did the same thing you morons would cream your panties in a heartbeat? The fucking stupidity here is astronomical.

Hopefully it replaces the covers.

But Slash isn't doing the same thing, is he?

Well he did once for the GUNS N' ROSES HALL OF FAME INDUCTION which sounds quite appropriate to play GUNS N' ROSES MUSIC.

But these same people were slobbering all over his cock for that shitty HoF performance that included none of the most important GN'R members. At least Axl's band has 1. Both of them if Izzy wants to play, and tickets are a lot cheaper than the HoF were.

I am completely against Beta's Vegas vacation, but anyone that didn't expect this based on the description that was let out should probably be castrated. You're far too stupid to breed.

I think you missed the part where Marc stated the importance of Slash, Duff and Steven in the band and in the AFD writing process? Also, looks like you think you're in the Attitude section. Relax and do not insult.

pi2loc

Edited August 15, 2012 by pi2loc

[Demon Wolf]

How many times have a GNR concert ended with a song that isn't Paradise City?

[Damn_Smooth]

So the guy that is by far the most responsible for the album shouldn't do anything to celebrate it, but if Slash grabbed Gilby and did the same thing you morons would cream your panties in a heartbeat? The fucking stupidity here is astronomical.

Hopefully it replaces the covers.

But Slash isn't doing the same thing, is he?

Well he did once for the GUNS N' ROSES HALL OF FAME INDUCTION which sounds quite appropriate to play GUNS N' ROSES MUSIC.

But these same people were slobbering all over his cock for that shitty HoF performance that included none of the most important GN'R members. At least Axl's band has 1. Both of them if Izzy wants to play, and tickets are a lot cheaper than the HoF were.

I am completely against Beta's Vegas vacation, but anyone that didn't expect this based on the description that was let out should probably be castrated. You're far too stupid to breed.

I think you missed the part where Marc stated the importance of Slash, Duff and Steven in the band and in the AFD writing process? Also, looks like you think you're in the Attitude section. Relax and do not insult.

pi2loc

Thanks for the heads up. I did think I was in the Attitude section. All of the band insults threw me off.

I love Marc, but I'll take the word of the band members themselves on this one. There is no reason for them to lie about that when it definitely doesn't make Slash look any cooler.

I'm outta here until this gets moved though. Thanks again.

[Nosaj Thing]

How many times have a GNR concert ended with a song that isn't Paradise City?

Not many

pi2loc

[droezle]

The Activision lawsuit was not about bitching and moaning about the past. The issue is breach of contract.

Yes it is.

The 'breach of contract' was Axl's disapproval of having Slash on the cover because it is false misrepresentation of Guns N' Roses, which is a joke in itself because he is only playing songs Slash helped write during the Vegas shows. Sounds a little contradictory right?

No, it isn't.

The reason why the judge will let this go to trial is because there is a valid claim of breach of contract. There is no valid claim that I've ever heard of to allow a lawsuit to go to trial to merely bitch and moan about the past. The Vegas shows, which have not happened yet and as such the setlists are unknown, are completely irrelevant to the lawsuit.

Ali

The breach of contract was Activision using Slash as a representation of Guns N' Roses. Axl is playing Guns N' Roses songs Slash helped write. Axl doesn't want Slash to represent Guns N' Roses, yet he is playing Slash's songs.

arnold

They are not "Slash songs"

They are GNR songs.

Axl = GNR

Cool?

And where would Axl and "his GNR" be today without Slash, Izzy, Duff and Steven?

[Snowmass]

Is he playing AFD each night or ove rthe course of the month he'll play all of AFD?

[WhazUp]

This isn't even a big deal, they play the majority of Appetite anyway so it is just a couple of added tunes and a different setlist order. Shame we most likely won't get new material

[Apollo]

Too funny.

The Axl Worshippers are circle jerking and spraying each other's faces because the touring band is going to add Anything Goes to the set?

This isn't good news. If this is the big surprise or draw......Axl and Team Brazil should be embarrassed.

People comparing this to other bands playing entire albums are reaching for straws. Those situations are nothing close to being similar to Axl's current band.

[volcano62]

People comparing this to other bands playing entire albums are reaching for straws. Those situations are nothing close to being similar to Axl's current band.

No offence it is exactly the same situation.

Like Megadeth doing Rust In Peace last year.

[Cosmo]

People comparing this to other bands playing entire albums are reaching for straws. Those situations are nothing close to being similar to Axl's current band.

No offence it is exactly the same situation.

Like Megadeth doing Rust In Peace last year.

That was the exactly same situation, Groghan.

[HisRoyalSweetness]

maybe axl will be happier and enjoy performing more after abandoning the pretense of being anything but a nostalgia act. maybe the weight of living up to the old band's accomplishments was an unfair albatross for him to have imposed upon himself. if you were one of the fans who believed his hype about burying AFD or creating a new legacy with his new band, i could see how this could be disappointing. especially after investing your emotions and optimism for so long. but think of it from axl's perspective... it's gotta be so hard to convince himself he can do it, year after disappointing year. it's gotta be a load off to be at a place where he can peacefully rest on his laurels in vegas. he's earned it.

i say, congrats axl. these are your golden years. enjoy it.

Edited August 15, 2012 by HisRoyalSweetness

[F*ck Fear]

This thread is a great example of why I hardly post here anymore. They announce more shows and people are complaining.

[Roky]

I understand why the band are doing this, Rush played Moving Pictures in it's entirety last year as did Roger Waters with The Wall as well as Metallica with The Black Album this year so this isn't uncommon.

hahaha, you can't be serious.. listen, the current "band" has nothing to do with afd, nor with the decision to play these lame casino shows... moreover, the afd songs have been played to death over the last decade.

if axl is as creative as his fanboys claim he is, then he should try to move on and bury afd. that's what he said 20 years ago : "i want to bury afd". try harder axl because for the moment it's an epic fail

Edited August 15, 2012 by Roky

[YOUCOULDBEMINE.]

Wait, so the name of this minitour is ''Appetite For Democracy'' but they're only going to play AFD in it's entirety?

Oh and Axl, please sing these songs with your 2010 voice. Rocket Queen, You're Crazy, Paradise City and Think About You will sound awful without rasp.

AND FUCK YEAH THINK ABOUT YOU!

[Cosmo]

Wait, so the name of this minitour is ''Appetite For Democracy'' but they're only going to play AFD in it's entirety?

They should alternate between both. Or only play AFD and CD, leaving KOHD, Nov Rain, Estranged, Civil War, LALD, YCBM and Patience of out the setlist.