Guest NGOG Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 was just comparing this pro-shot from less than four years ago: crazy how much his voice deteriorated in that short span of time. two of the best performances of TiL and SoD ever.I agree with you, but at the time, that performance was ridiculed!Goes to show we're never really happy with what we have (collectively speaking). That's how it is when you have millions of fans though. Nobody is ever going to have 100% agreement on any issue.Absolutely irrelevant to the point at hand. We're not talking about diversity of opinion, we're referring to how the majority of the community criticized a clearly good performance.Reading, although now regarded as an example of how Axl should perform, was regarded at the time as a poor performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 NGOG, just because YOU think something was "clearly" good doesn't mean that it was actually good.Music is all about personal preference.I thought Axl sounded horrible at the Golden God show. Go to MSL's site or Jarmo's site and you'll see people saying how awesome and amazing Axl sounded.I think maybe you'd have less angst on this forum if you realized that just because you feel strongly about an issue, your opinion isn't automatically correct and people who disagree with you are wrong. Doesn't mean you are right, doesn't mean they are right.It's OK for people to have different opinions. Music is about personal preference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 NGOG, just because YOU think something was "clearly" good doesn't mean that it was actually good.Where did I refer to my own opinion? ER posted Reading as an example of a good performance - as have several others. Whereas at the time, very few were speaking in favour of the performance. Most were focusing on Axl's 'Graham Norton' jacket, and Richard's 'poorly performed' November Rain solo.Please don't create any further strawman arguments, with respect, I'm tired of having to read through ramblings which have nothing to do with the point at hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 NGOG, just because YOU think something was "clearly" good doesn't mean that it was actually good.Where did I refer to my own opinion? ER posted Reading as an example of a good performance - as have several others.Whereas at the time, very few were speaking in favour of the performance. Most were focusing on Axl's 'Graham Norton' jacket, and Richard's 'poorly performed' November Rain solo.Please don't create any further strawman arguments, with respect, I'm tired of having to read through ramblings which have nothing to do with the point at hand.1. Because ER (much respect to that guy) says something is good - and you agree - that means that everybody says it is good?2. You keep downgrading the importance of this forum's opinion based on it just being 50 members.....but now you are saying it is very relevant that people on here were focusing on Axl's jacket? Which is it?3. You need to look up the definition of strawman before you use it again, just to make sure you understand the definition of the term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NachoLZ Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 HD sweet child with better audio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 That intro sounds even worse in HD.And as bad as some might think this show was, I still wish we had the whole thing in HD (for collector's purposes). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Great, now we can hear the out of tune intro and Axl's awful voice in better audio!j/kThanks for the video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Fucking lol at Bumble staring across the stage at Ashba and Frank laughing his ass off. Nah Axl's voice is definitely no better in clearer audio, it's like he's 90 years old, something wrong there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NachoLZ Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The excuse of "poor quality livestream" is no longer valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thin White Duke Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 That intro is better than the old one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Do we have a vid of The Fortus solo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoftie Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 HD audio version of Jungle: Weird the way he switches between voices.. Maybe the technical delays let his voice cool down too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 He switches because he wants to use his old voice but can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tberrie007 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 He switches because he wants to use his old voice but can't.ive never seen it so obvious within a song that he is struggling than this....ive sang live and in the beginning when i listened back i was terrible and out of key and didnt even know...and have been in a song and lost where i was suppose to be tone wise....i think he can still use that voice , if he sang the whole song like some of the lines he hits we would all be happy with the performance. makes me think something else is going on with the guy...its now just so fucking weird to me ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tberrie007 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 was just comparing this pro-shot from less than four years ago: crazy how much his voice deteriorated in that short span of time. two of the best performances of TiL and SoD ever.holy shit! thanks for sharing! TIL was incredible! axl at his very best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) I wish they showed ycbm and better at reading. Songs with a bit of punch. Edited May 10, 2014 by Axl_morris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 It's night and day, 2011 Axl got abducted or something then plonked back down in Rio not in the best of moods after a long hard slog breathing the atmosphere of LV-223 escaping those aliens or something. Maybe they all had Slash hair and tommy hilfiger jackets too. Some shit went down alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I wish they showed ycbm and better at reading. Songs with a bit of punch.Apart from when Better is sung through a megaphone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 That intro is better than the old one. This singer is better than the old one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppetiteForGnR Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 The better the recording is the more revealing it is as to how shot Axl's voice is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhb Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I can say Axl's voice is ok when you are in the show. Listening in good qualitiy records, it's clear that he intentionally switchs from a raspy voice (dangerous to his vocal chords) to an acute but not raspyvoice. If he didn't do it, he could not be able to keep singing. What really matters is the live audience, and the effect still quite good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loko Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 "quite good!" It would be good, if he has any power in voice (2002 etc), but recently it's sounds so weak it's really hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 His falsetto/head/mixed voice was never strong tbh. Why he doesnt use chest voice I will never understand. Maybe he is not confident enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 His falsetto/head/mixed voice was never strong tbh. Why he doesnt use chest voice I will never understand. Maybe he is not confident enough?He just learned to sing differently. It's a good deal unorthodox, but that's the only way you're gonna get those kind of sounds out of a human being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 His falsetto/head/mixed voice was never strong tbh. Why he doesnt use chest voice I will never understand. Maybe he is not confident enough?He just learned to sing differently. It's a good deal unorthodox, but that's the only way you're gonna get those kind of sounds out of a human being.Extremely unorthodox.... which is why he sounds good on the super high stuff (like the Better breakdown) and struggles so badly on mid-range stuff (and just about everything else).Bruno, I think he doesn't use his chest voice because it's blown to pieces. I don't think he has a choice; why else would you change your entire singing style so dramatically? I can't ever imagine wanting to switch to falsetto unless something was preventing me from singing the usual way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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