Popular Post parisrocks Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2015 It's cool, and I'll take it where it comes, but for us to clamor for it and bitch about is ridiculous. The same reason he doesn't do it now is the same reason he doesn't wear biker shorts or put dolphins on stage, anymore. Look, we know the guy is a little paranoid. We know that he used to pay attention to these boards, so he might still get on here and look about, so how bad would it suck to hit some these fucking incredible sustained highs he can still push and then see some douchebag from Idaho complaining about how he doesn't sound like he ate a bucket of gravel???The records weren't recorded that way. The Illusions tour is the only place you see it regularly and that was a time of pure excess. I don't see people mad every day that Tracy and Roberta aren't back there shaking their asses anymore.That was a parlor trick for a young man's game. Doing that shit for a prolonged period will destroy your throat.The rasp is a simple blend of his speaking baritone and his singing soprano. Google "vocal nodule symptoms" if you need a better understanding.I wrote this because I just saw someone complainign that a version of Estranged was shit because only the 2nd half had "rasp". The beginning of Estranged is soft, almost whispery. Maybe that idiot should become a fan of Harvey Fierstein audio books and leave Axl Rose to the rest of us. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nosaj Thing Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2015 Fuck rasp? Fuck you. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Singing rasp is relatively easy though. At least for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maynard Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2015 Axl sounds like shit when he sings with his clean high voice. His raspy voice is his trademark and it's disgusting to hear Axl sounding so weak and girly knowing how powerful his voice used to be. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Let alone that Axl is in desperate need of air every five seconds, which makes his current performance even shittier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Eh, no. Axl's at his best when he sounds like a bagpipe being scraped over bricks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Fuck rasp? Fuck you.And your hairy-stomached mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Yeah. He sounded best on AFD and Lies, good balance of raspy and airy highs. His voice is pretty cartoony one UYI and TSI, I love it, but sometimes you just gotta laugh at how ridiculous he sounds. Still the coolest voice in Rock N Roll. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Fuck anything Axl can't do anymore! Rasp and snake dance are the worst! Mickey and truffle shuffle rule! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Fuck anything Axl can't do anymore! Rasp and snake dance are the worst! Mickey and truffle shuffle rule!Reminds of those "quality over quantity" argument people used to justify 1 album in 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 But let's ask a fair question (even if it's been asked before): is it justifiable to expect UYI rasp, or even 2010 rasp, from a mid-50s singer? Part of me says yes since he has demonstrated it from time to time, even in 2014. Then again, perhaps it's just not feasible a few years on. There are inherent health risks to singing like that. It can build up nodes on your vocal chords, which arguably can increases one's chances of certain forms of cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post magisme Posted January 22, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2015 The problem is the voices he replaces rasp with are atrocious. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseIRS Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Steven Tyler can still rasp it up, and hes more than 10 years older than Axl. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Everybody I have shown Appetite for Democracy that doesn't follow the band like we do LAUGHED THEIR ASSES OFF at how fat Axl is and how shitty he sounds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 War has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Al sounds like shit and he knows it. Everybody knows it. It's either denial or facing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 WAR has changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Please refrain from making personal insults against other posters because they happen to disagree with you. A point can be made without calling someone a "dumb fuck."Thanks! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 The problem isn't the lack of rasp, it's what he substitutes it with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I don't expect him to sound like he did in his twenties. Nor do I expect him to look the same. That doesn't mean that an out of breath, unprepared, lyric forgetting fatman in a yellow raincoat is acceptable either.Plenty of Axl's contemporaries work out, rehearse, and get every bit of help they can to perform to the best of their ability at their age.The only time Axl has come close to this in recent memory is 2006 - he looked fit, prepared and motivated. The performances were probably the most consistent too.Since then it has gone horribly downhill in almost every sense. I suppose he has been on time more often but for the most part he looks like he's phoning it in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 But let's ask a fair question (even if it's been asked before): is it justifiable to expect UYI rasp, or even 2010 rasp, from a mid-50s singer? Part of me says yes since he has demonstrated it from time to time, even in 2014. Then again, perhaps it's just not feasible a few years on. There are inherent health risks to singing like that. It can build up nodes on your vocal chords, which arguably can increases one's chances of certain forms of cancer. You have a point and no. You can't expect someone like Axl to still sounds the same as 20 years ago (though he also sounded shit 13 years ago). But for the past couple of years the alternative has been atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kater Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 He just had to rehearse, get in shape and change a bit arrangement of his songs to fit him more (little rasp + lower register + little high notes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudolf1978 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Everybody I have shown Appetite for Democracy that doesn't follow the band like we do LAUGHED THEIR ASSES OFF at how fat Axl is and how shitty he sounds.Same here.Every time that i see coments that he is singing great nowadays i feel that maybe there is a sect here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Like most people have said, it's not necessarily that people are insistent on the rasp but insistent on him not sounding like he's sucking helium. There are plenty of songs he didn't 'rasp it up' on in the studio, it's not like it's like the only 'Axl Rose voice' right, but the man simply doesn't rehearse, doesn't re-arrange anything, doesn't get himself into shape, he just hits the stage unprepared and that's why you hear him gasping between lines most of the time in recent tours.I'd love for him to sound like he did in mid-2010 for a long time to come, but it's not gonna happen. But, if he got into shape so he could breathe and maybe slowed the songs down just a hair, he'd sound a lot better with a clean singing voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 All I know is 2010 was a hell of a lot better than 2014 and rasp is a part of that. It isn't just the rasp though, I think that the rasp is a byproduct or at least a sign of the power and confidence Axl has when he is in shape and in form vocally. We saw glimpses of that at the last couple of 2014 shows in Vegas with a smokin' performance of Prostitute.All in all people talk about rasp for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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