GNR Women's discussion

[MillionsOfSpiders]

2 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I know. Not only Coachella but in previous GNR tours too.

Yeah, if she's an ex it's pretty strange that she would be there all the time. And if they are in a steady relationship it seems odd to me that she's pretty much invisible and doesn't get much public recognition from him. Except for this picture, called my attention, looks like a First Lady thing she's doing.

I don't like her that much. I tend to dislike people who I can't figure out quickly and she's pretty much a mystery to me. 

I don't know, there's a ton of pictures of them on the Internet and before she made all her accounts private she used to mention him a lot. They obviously don't want us GNR crazies snooping out their private life  

[Andy14]

@killuridols Is it better now?  Don't worry, I don't think it's something serious.

btw. @Carlycosmos I can't get the short-haired Axl out of my head, it will freak me out in my dreams 

[Carlycosmos]

4 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

@killuridols Is it better now?  Don't worry, I don't think it's something serious.

btw. @Carlycosmos I can't get the short-haired Axl out of my head, it will freak me out in my dreams 

Hahahahahaha  sorry!!

[marlingrl03]

2 hours ago, Epson said:

30 pages within 10 days. Not bad 

And all those views..... amazing! 

[Carlycosmos]

Just now, marlingrl03 said:

And all those views..... amazing! 

Half of them are from Axl

[marlingrl03]

3 minutes ago, Carlycosmos said:

Half of them are from Axl

lol...who knows?!!

[-W.A.R-]

i thought Axl had a thing with Lana Del Rey awhile back

[pinkforgirls]

1 minute ago, -W.A.R- said:

i thought Axl had a thing with Lana Del Rey awhile back

This is what I have been wondering about. 

[Frey]

2 minutes ago, -W.A.R- said:

i thought Axl had a thing with Lana Del Rey awhile back

Correct me if I m wrong, but as far as I know they only were photographed in public together once and people automatically assumed that means they must have something going on (probably because Lana is so obsessed with him).

And now Lana too is part of Axl's entourage, just like Sasha. It's all pretty weird.

[-W.A.R-]

Just now, pinkforgirls said:

This is what I have been wondering about. 

Axl gave her a personalized tour jacket at Coachella, so they are still in contact with one another 

Axl is not a dumb man...he had to hit once....or 20 times

 

[killuridols]

32 minutes ago, Lumikki said:

Okay, let's talk about Sasha.

I'm not convinced Axl is actually dating her. (Calm down, @killuridols ). She seems to work for him and she also seems to live with him (or at least has a room in his house?), but from what I remember Sasha also used to accompany other men the way she does Axl (Kanye West among them I think?) and someone also claimed that Sasha was engaged to some guy (don't know if that is still the case). I also remember reading she used to work as an escort girl.

When Beta was asked if Axl had a girlfriend, she said "Well... he has Sasha..." Kinda like she wasn't really a girlfriend.

All of that while she was supposedly dating Axl. Honestly, the whole thing is confusing as hell.

My best guess? She's part of Axl's entourage (she is very close friends with all the Lebeises etc) and her job is to take care of some things around Axl's house (the cats? the dogs? she posts pictures of the cats and the dogs all the time) and to be his "female companion" for public appearances. To keep up the rock star image and to prevent awkward questions from getting asked (let's be real, it's kinda strange that one of the biggest rock stars on the planet hasn't has a publically known relationship with a woman for over 20 years).

But then again, we don't really know anything and they might actually be in a relationship. But for now I'm going to say no.

EDIT: And now she just posted a picture of Axl from today

Work for him? Doing what? Lol he already has like 10 assistants. How many more does he need?

How old is Sasha? I say around 30 years old, more or less, she lives with him? A 30 years old model lives with a 54 year old rocker and they aren't lovers? I'm sorry but I have to  at that.

Her job or what she does for a living (aside the modeling, which by her age must be coming to an end) is not clear and when it's not clear there's something fishy behind. That's why Im not happy and I distrust her.

When did Beta say that about them? Do u have a link? If she really said that is kind of sad, isn't it? I feel she's relegated to a place that no woman with pride would accept. Unless she's being paid tons of money to be in background.

Take care about the cats? What kind of job is that? So she's like a maid during day and First Lady during night? It makes no sense! 

And to be honest, Axl doesn't make that many public appearances so to hire her permanently for that. What does she do the rest of the time?

Yes, it's very strange he has had no known relationship since Jennifer Driver I guess... That could be explained by assuming he's in a long steady relationship but who is that person? And if it's Sasha.. Aren't 10 years too much for a woman to stand the fact of being publicly neglected?

Whats the problem with saying she's his girlfriend or wife if the relationship has been going for so long. Duff and Slash don't have any issues being honest about their relationships.

All I know is that in either situation her role is fucking sad. She must love him very much to accept such thing. Or a lot of $$$$ but really... how much money could buy your life and time next to a guy who shows you in public every 10 years?

30 minutes ago, Carlycosmos said:

But... if he's still with Sasha... how many years are they dating already?

I think since 2006

26 minutes ago, Andy14 said:

@killuridols Is it better now?  Don't worry, I don't think it's something serious.

No. It's not better now.

Something not serious doesn't last 10 years.

Edited June 7, 2016 by killuridols

[pinkforgirls]

1 minute ago, Frey said:

Correct me if I m wrong, but as far as I know they only were photographed in public together once and people automatically assumed that means they must have something going on (probably because Lana is so obsessed with him).

And now Lana too is part of Axl's entourage, just like Sasha. It's all pretty weird.

But does Sasha have a satin jacket?!? *teasing*

[killuridols]

6 minutes ago, Frey said:

Correct me if I m wrong, but as far as I know they only were photographed in public together once and people automatically assumed that means they must have something going on (probably because Lana is so obsessed with him).

And now Lana too is part of Axl's entourage, just like Sasha. It's all pretty weird.

Are these women all ok with sharing a guy and being part of his life even when they become exes? What kind of power does Axl have? Aaaaahhh the power of $$$$$

Seriously, if he dated Lana and Sasha, and they are both in his entourage and they have to see each other, how come we never heard of cat fights??

How does Axl manage to have so many women, exes and currents, all well behaved in the same place, time and place without going crazy with female demands?

 

4 minutes ago, pinkforgirls said:

But does Sasha have a satin jacket?!? *teasing*

Yes she does.

[Lumikki]

9 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Work for him? Doing what? Lol he already has like 10 assistants. How many more does he need?

How old is Sasha? I say around 30 years old, more or less, she lives with him? A 30 years old model lives with a 54 year old rocker and they aren't lovers? I'm sorry but I have to  at that.

Her job or what she does for a living (aside the modeling, which by her age must be coming to an end) is not clear and when it's not clear there's something fishy behind. That's why Im not happy and I distrust her.

When did Beta say that about them? Do u have a link? If she really said that is kind of sad, isn't it? I feel she's relegated to a place that no woman with pride would accept. Unless she's being paid tons of money to be in background.

Take care about the cats? What kind of job is that? So she's like a maid during day and First Lady during night? It makes no sense! 

And to be honest, Axl doesn't make that many public appearances so to hire her permanently for that. What does she do the rest of the time?

Yes, it's very strange he has had no known relationship since Jennifer Driver I guess... That could be explained by assuming he's in a long steady relationship but who is that person? And if it's Sasha.. Aren't 10 years too much for a woman to stand the fact of being publicly neglected?

Whats the problem with saying she's his girlfriend or wife if the relationship has been going for so long. Duff and Slash don't have any issues being honest about their relationships.

All I know is that in either situation her role is fucking sad. She must love him very much to accept such thing. Or a lot of $$$$ but really... how much money could buy your life and time next to a guy who shows you in public every 10 years?

Nothing about Sasha makes sense. Like I said, it's confusing. And I don't know if she lives with Axl full-time or if she just has a room in his house or sleeps in a guest bedroom or whatever. But there were pictures of her in a really girly bed that she took after waking up with Axl's cats on them. Since she seems to have her own bed, she then probably doesn't seem to share a bed with Axl? Or at least not always? Not very girlfriend-like.

The taking care of the pets-thing and being his public appearances girl has been discussed on this forum before. I don't know what to think about it. Axl hires people for even crazier things (Andrei?), so nothing is impossible. Maybe it's just a part-time thing besides her modelling and her escorting other rich guys.

Beta supposedly said that to some guy at Coachella. Was mentioned by a user in this thread. Not sure how believable it is.

"When i asked if he had a gf, she said "well..he has sasha"

could maybe mean its kind of a fling or whatever."

 

12 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Are these women all ok with sharing a guy and being part of his life even when they become exes? What kind of power does Axl have? Aaaaahhh the power of $$$$$

Seriously, if he dated Lana and Sasha, and they are both in his entourage and they have to see each other, how come we never heard of cat fights??

How does Axl manage to have so many women, exes and currents, all well behaved in the same place, time and place without going crazy with female demands?

That's why I don't believe he actually has a serious relationship with any of them. Would cause way too much drama.

 

Also didn't Axl say that he wasn't dating anyone in some radio interview a few years ago? Which one was that? I can remember it pretty clearly.

[stella]

53 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Whats the problem with saying she's his girlfriend or wife if the relationship has been going for so long. Duff and Slash don't have any issues being honest about their relationships.

All I know is that in either situation her role is fucking sad. She must love him very much to accept such thing. Or a lot of $$$$ but really... how much money could buy your life and time next to a guy who shows you in public every 10 years?

 

I think that @Lumikki's hypothesis that she's a friend/employee and escorts him if he needs a female companion for an event is probably spot-on. It's plausible; we know Axl has employed many of his friends in various roles in the past. There was one friend from Indiana he hired to open the door for repair people and do errands of that nature back in the day. We don't tend to see Axl's friends much in general; there aren't a lot of photos of him hanging with Del, for instance, but I don't think anyone would question how tight he and Axl are.

As to the privacy of relationships - Duff and Slash are very public but they also married women who were already in the public eye. Susan had her modeling and other business ventures and I believe Perla was also somehow in showbiz (I could be wrong). A lot of the time, celebrities *will* try to keep their SOs and children's identities quiet, simply to protect them from psychos, grifters and people who would use them, and let them have some semblance of a regular life. I've seen photos of celebrities where they're covering their kids' faces so the paparazzi can't get pictures of them. I remember that Eddie Izzard had a girlfriend for about 10 years who wasn't identified until way after the fact. Dolly Parton has kept her husband's likeness and personal information quiet for about 40 years  - he actually does exist, but good luck finding out about him. Freddie Mercury's companions, both female and male, were never in the public eye. That's not done because the celebs are ashamed; they're trying to protect their loved ones.

 

And a lot of the time celebrities keep things quiet because the public might not deal well with their orientation or choices. If a celebrity only liked one-night stands, or was polyamorous, or had friends with benefits, or was asexual or had taken a vow of chastity or whatever the fuck - they'd probably keep that to themselves and have a beard when needed.

Edited June 8, 2016 by stella

[killuridols]

48 minutes ago, Lumikki said:

Nothing about Sasha makes sense. Like I said, it's confusing. And I don't know if she lives with Axl full-time or if she just has a room in his house or sleeps in a guest bedroom or whatever. But there were pictures of her in a really girly bed that she took after waking up with Axl's cats on them. Since she seems to have her own bed, she then probably doesn't seem to share a bed with Axl? Or at least not always? Not very girlfriend-like.

The taking care of the pets-thing and being his public appearances girl has been discussed on this forum before. I don't know what to think about it. Axl hires people for even crazier things (Andrei?), so nothing is impossible. Maybe it's just a part-time thing besides her modelling and her escorting other rich guys.

Beta supposedly said that to some guy at Coachella. Was mentioned by a user in this thread. Not sure how believable it is.

"When i asked if he had a gf, she said "well..he has sasha"

could maybe mean its kind of a fling or whatever."

 

That's why I don't believe he actually has a serious relationship with any of them. Would cause way too much drama.

Also didn't Axl say that he wasn't dating anyone in some radio interview a few years ago? Which one was that? I can remember it pretty clearly.

No doubt she has a room in his house. Mansion's pretty big. I dont think sleeping in separate beds or bedrooms while being a couple is strange in this time and age. Lots of rich people and the ones who can afford it prefer to go like that. It's pretty uncomfortable sleeping with someone in the same bed, so when you're not up to LOL I think you're better off in your own bed or bedroom. I like that idea, haha and it's become quite common.

Still, makes no sense to me to have a room in his house if you're just a fling or a casual lover. And "taken care of the pets" sounds like a smoke screen to me. And a horrible label for her.

Ok, thanks for the link- Never read that. Is that guy reliable though?

The amount of time she's been around him is what throws me off to believe she's a friend with benefits or a non-serious relationship. We know she DID date him back in 2006. There is a pic of her and Axl holding hands in the street. Thats not what a scort does.

Which radio interview? The only one I remember is 2006 with Eddie Trunk, after that he never went to radio again.

25 minutes ago, stella said:

I think that @Lumikki's hypothesis that she's a friend/employee and escorts him if he needs a female companion for an event is probably spot-on. It's plausible; we know Axl has employed many of his friends in various roles in the past. There was one friend from Indiana he hired to open the door for repair people and do errands of that nature back in the day. We don't tend to see Axl's friends much in general; there aren't a lot of photos of him hanging with Del, for instance, but I don't think anyone would question how tight he and Axl are.

As to the privacy of relationships - Duff and Slash are very public but they also married women who were already in the public eye. Susan had her modeling and other business ventures and I believe Perla was also somehow in showbiz (I could be wrong). A lot of the time, celebrities *will* try to keep their SOs and children's identities quiet, simply to protect them from psychos, grifters and people who would use them, and let them have some semblance of a regular life. I've seen photos of celebrities where they're covering their kids' faces so the paparazzi can't get pictures of them. I remember that Eddie Izzard had a girlfriend for about 10 years who wasn't identified until way after the fact. Dolly Parton has kept her husband's likeness and personal information quiet for about 40 years  - he actually does exist, but good luck finding out about him. Freddie Mercury's companions, both female and male, were never in the public eye. That's not done because the celebs are ashamed; they're trying to protect their loved ones.

And a lot of the time celebrities keep things quiet because the public might not deal well with their orientation or choices. If a celebrity only liked one-night stands, or was polyamorous, or had friends with benefits, or was asexual or had taken a vow of chastity or whatever the fuck - they'd probably keep that to themselves and have a beard when needed.

Meegan was not very public before this second round with Slash. I think she's in the fashion industry, some cloth designing or stylist kind of thing but they don't hide their relationship. They look very happy and act like a normal couple, even with Slash being a celebrity.

I understand what you say about celebrities wanting to protect their relationship but Sasha is not a very private woman. She's been seen with him before, she's been seen with other celebrity males as well. She's a model (or was). Her activity seems to be pretty public. I know nothing about Dolly Parton but at least does people know she is married? I don't know who is Eddie Izzard and Freddy Mercury is understandable because being gay in the 70s and 80s was not something to be proud of.

The Sasha thing doesnt fit any of those examples, though. Fans know she has or had some sort of relationship with Axl. If a crazy fan wants to hurt her they know where to look . I'd say the protection of her is not very good.

 

[stella]

30 minutes ago, killuridols said:

No doubt she has a room in his house. Mansion's pretty big. I dont think sleeping in separate beds or bedrooms while being a couple is strange in this time and age. Lots of rich people and the ones who can afford it prefer to go like that. It's pretty uncomfortable sleeping with someone in the same bed, so when you're not up to LOL I think you're better off in your own bed or bedroom. I like that idea, haha and it's become quite common.

Still, makes no sense to me to have a room in his house if you're just a fling or a casual lover. And "taken care of the pets" sounds like a smoke screen to me. And a horrible label for her.

Ok, thanks for the link- Never read that. Is that guy reliable though?

The amount of time she's been around him is what throws me off to believe she's a friend with benefits or a non-serious relationship. We know she DID date him back in 2006. There is a pic of her and Axl holding hands in the street. Thats not what a scort does.

Which radio interview? The only one I remember is 2006 with Eddie Trunk, after that he never went to radio again.

Meegan was not very public before this second round with Slash. I think she's in the fashion industry, some cloth designing or stylist kind of thing but they don't hide their relationship. They look very happy and act like a normal couple, even with Slash being a celebrity.

I understand what you say about celebrities wanting to protect their relationship but Sasha is not a very private woman. She's been seen with him before, she's been seen with other celebrity males as well. She's a model (or was). Her activity seems to be pretty public. I know nothing about Dolly Parton but at least does people know she is married? I don't know who is Eddie Izzard and Freddy Mercury is understandable because being gay in the 70s and 80s was not something to be proud of.

The Sasha thing doesnt fit any of those examples, though. Fans know she has or had some sort of relationship with Axl. If a crazy fan wants to hurt her they know where to look . I'd say the protection of her is not very good.

 

The point I was trying to make was that even if we haven't heard anything about Axl having a SO it doesn't mean that one doesn't exist, or that he's been a celibate monk. And saying that she is the pet sitter is really not much different than saying she's the person who lets the repairman in. Another thing here is that Axl apparently has a lot of animals, or he did - it's actually legit that someone might need to be hired to tend to them.  If Axl's had platonic friends and relatives living at his house, why not a friend with benefits?

Freddie Mercury actually had a wife/female companion, too - he left his estate to her and IIRC she actually got his ashes as well. Given the huge homophobia in the UK and USA in the 70s and 80s he could have easily paraded her around, saying, "see, look, I'm married to a woman! I'm straight! Nothing to see here!" and he didn't. I don't think there's ever been a photo of her, in fact.

Dolly Parton, yes, people know she's married, but she doesn't bring it up very much. There have been interviews where journalists have tried to trick her into answering questions about her husband and she's really been good at deflecting them all.

Eddie Izzard is a great British comedian and actor - he's also a transvestite. For many years he had a steady girlfriend and absolutely would not put her name or any information about her out there in the world. He's very funny:

 

Edited June 8, 2016 by stella

[Axl_Fetish]

Pfft... gotta chime in on the Sasha thing. I don't feel that there's anything really happening there. He's never hid his relationships in the past. When they were "dating" (I say "dating" because it does seem like she is/was  an escort) he didn't hide her away... so why start now? I'm sure she's a friend- maybe a friend with benefits... she also seems (judging by her past behavior) like she'd be flaunting it if they were in a relationship.

She is known to house sit for Axl, and take care of the animals... a couple of years back she posted a risque picture of herself in Axl's house, wearing nothing but one of his shirts with one of his cats  covering her Va jay jay... This was on Instagram!... And Beta scolded her for it... on Instagram... I'm bringing this up because it's more self promoting than girlfriend like- and it wouldn't be Beta's place to scold a girlfriend.

And he has had other relationships after Jennifer Driver... this hasn't been updated since 2006... but it's entertaining 

http://ladydairhean.0catch.com/Axl/relationships.htm

[killuridols]

15 minutes ago, stella said:

The point I was trying to make was that even if we haven't heard anything about Axl having a SO it doesn't mean that one doesn't exist, or that he's been a celibate monk. And saying that she is the pet sitter is really not much different than saying she's the person who lets the repairman in. Another thing here is that Axl apparently has a lot of animals, or he did - it's actually legit that someone might need to be hired to tend to them.  If Axl's had platonic friends and relatives living at his house, why not a friend with benefits?

Freddie Mercury actually had a wife/female companion, too - he left his estate to her and IIRC she actually got his ashes as well. Given the huge homophobia in the UK and USA in the 70s and 80s he could have easily paraded her around, saying, "see, look, I'm married to a woman! I'm straight! Nothing to see here!" and he didn't. I don't think there's ever been a photo of her, in fact.

Dolly Parton, yes, people know she's married, but she doesn't bring it up very much. There have been interviews where journalists have tried to trick her into answering questions about her husband and she's really been good at deflecting them all.

Eddie Izzard is a great British comedian and actor - he's also a transvestite. For many years he had a steady girlfriend and absolutely would not put her name or any information about her out there in the world. He's very funny:

 

Ok. But I never meant to say I think Axl doesn't have anyone or is celibate, lol. I'm not a kid to believe such kind of things. He's a man with needs Besides, lots of pics with women have surfaced throughout the years although it was never stated if those women were his girlfriends. He hangs out with lots of models and young girls. Believing that he doesnt touch one of those is gullible.

How much care does a cat need? They don't need shit. Cats are very independent and dont want to be bothered. Just feed them and let them do their thing. You dont' need to hire someone specific for that. Anyone in the house, the maid, can pour some water and food on their plates. And why would he hire a model girl to do this task? It's like too much.

The wife of Freddy Mercury may have been another smoke screen or some kind of Beta person. I don't believe for once that Freddy wasn't entirely gay all the time.

Dolly Parton is different. At least people know she's married. If she doesn't want to talk about it or doesnt want to involve her husband with her career that's fine but the relationship is clear.

And with the transvestite, well, I understand why he wouldn't say he had a girlfriend. It would ruin his business

 

As I said before the Sasha thing doesnt make sense to me due to the amount of time she's been around Axl. She's a young woman, Axl is a high profile man, she's been seen with him before and she's somewhat "known". Not a celebrity but one who hangs out with them. I find it odd her not claiming her place, if she has one, in Axl's life. A friend with benefits for 10 years doesn't seem real for me, you eventually get tired and at some point you will demand a more serious relationship because if you remain that way forever you will never be able to be with another person, have your life, get married or have children. I feel Sasha is too young to tie herself in a relationship that is going nowhere, because friends with benefits leads nowhere and if she's a real girlfriend of him, for so long, it doesn't look good either. But that's my personality maybe. I couldn't accept something like that ever. Not even from Axl.

[stella]

19 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Ok. But I never meant to say I think Axl doesn't have anyone or is celibate, lol. I'm not a kid to believe such kind of things. He's a man with needs Besides, lots of pics with women have surfaced throughout the years although it was never stated if those women were his girlfriends. He hangs out with lots of models and young girls. Believing that he doesnt touch one of those is gullible.

How much care does a cat need? They don't need shit. Cats are very independent and dont want to be bothered. Just feed them and let them do their thing. You dont' need to hire someone specific for that. Anyone in the house, the maid, can pour some water and food on their plates. And why would he hire a model girl to do this task? It's like too much.

The wife of Freddy Mercury may have been another smoke screen or some kind of Beta person. I don't believe for once that Freddy wasn't entirely gay all the time.

Dolly Parton is different. At least people know she's married. If she doesn't want to talk about it or doesnt want to involve her husband with her career that's fine but the relationship is clear.

And with the transvestite, well, I understand why he wouldn't say he had a girlfriend. It would ruin his business

 

As I said before the Sasha thing doesnt make sense to me due to the amount of time she's been around Axl. She's a young woman, Axl is a high profile man, she's been seen with him before and she's somewhat "known". Not a celebrity but one who hangs out with them. I find it odd her not claiming her place, if she has one, in Axl's life. A friend with benefits for 10 years doesn't seem real for me, you eventually get tired and at some point you will demand a more serious relationship because if you remain that way forever you will never be able to be with another person, have your life, get married or have children. I feel Sasha is too young to tie herself in a relationship that is going nowhere, because friends with benefits leads nowhere and if she's a real girlfriend of him, for so long, it doesn't look good either. But that's my personality maybe. I couldn't accept something like that ever. Not even from Axl.

Axl actually has been reported to have a mini-zoo of exotic animals at his house - no joke. He certainly has the room for it. When they say Sasha's feeding the cat, well, there are (or were) apparently a lot more animals there to feed and care for.

Freddie Mercury's female companion was reportedly his best friend - someone he loved deeply and trusted. Whether it was a platonic relationship is anyone's guess, and probably nobody's business, but the point remains that she stayed with him for a long time, even after he came out to her as gay, and he called her the "love of his life." Their relationship wasn't traditional but it worked. She's actually the only one who knows where his ashes were buried; he trusted her that much.

And a transvestite isn't gay; you're thinking of a drag queen. Eddie Izzard actually has a pretty diverse audience, too; you will see everyone from older people to teens from all walks of life at his shows in the USA.

Why *wouldn't* one have a friend with benefits for 10 years, if both parties are comfortable with that? Not everyone has a final goal of "settling down" and getting married, and many people are happily childfree. Whatever relationship they have might suit them just fine and might not need to lead anywhere else at all. Different people have different goals in life. Some people want to get married by the time they're 20; some people never want to.

Edited June 8, 2016 by stella

[killuridols]

22 minutes ago, stella said:

Axl actually has been reported to have a mini-zoo of exotic animals at his house - no joke. He certainly has the room for it. When they say Sasha's feeding the cat, well, there are (or were) apparently a lot more animals there to feed.

Freddie Mercury was reported to have been bisexual by many people, but whatever his sexuality, his female companion was reportedly his best friend - someone he loved deeply and trusted. Whether it was a platonic relationship is anyone's guess, and probably nobody's business, but the point remains that if he really wanted to, he could have had a beard, and he didn't. And also that his female companion stayed loyal to him and didn't want to marry or have kids elsewhere.

And a transvestite isn't gay; you're thinking of a drag queen. Eddie Izzard actually has a pretty diverse audience, too; you will see everyone from older people to teens from all walks of life at his shows in the USA.

Why *wouldn't* one have a friend with benefits for 10 years, if both parties are comfortable with that? Not everyone has a final goal of "settling down" and getting married, and many people are happily childfree. Whatever relationship they have might suit them just fine and might not need to lead anywhere else at all. Different people have different goals in life. Some people want to get married by the time they're 20; some people never want to.

I know he has lots of animals. Asides from the cats and some dogs, don't know what other species he may have but I still don't think a girl like Sasha is there to feed such animals only. I don't buy it.

Freddy Mercury, I think he had already died when I came around this world. I dont have much recollection of him being alive so I wont know how he was portrayed in the media and his relationships. To me he was clearly homosexual and having a wife doesn't mean anything. Lots of gay men are married, have children and still are gay. Look at Bruce Jenner. I think that due to the homophobia and bad press being gay had in the 70s & 80s, he may not have wanted to expose anything about his life because it would backlash at him anyway.

Hah, talk to me about marriage and children. I dont want to ever get married and I wouldnt be a good mother so kids are banned from my life but I guess I'm more of an exception than the rule. Most people want those things (especially women), maybe in lesser degrees nowadays, things are changing in that aspect too. But friends-with-benefits for such a long time don't go hand in hand. That's not the concept behind it. Any relationship that long its either a friendship or a serious couple relationship. You will eventually get tired of it because its an emotional demand from the other person, regardless of the ultimate goals for such relationship.

Edited June 8, 2016 by killuridols

[stella]

14 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I know he has lots of animals. Asides from the cats and some dogs, don't know what other species he may have but I still don't think a girl like Sasha is there to feed such animals only. I don't buy it.

Freddy Mercury, I think he had already died when I came around this world. I dont have much recollection of him being alive so I wont know how he was portrayed in the media and his relationships. To me he was clearly homosexual and having a wife doesn't mean anything. Lots of gay men are married, have children and still are gay. Look at Bruce Jenner. I think that due to the homophobia and bad press being gay had in the 70s & 80s, he may not have wanted to expose anything about his life because it would backlash at him anyway.

Hah, talk to me about marriage and children. I dont want to ever get married and I wouldnt be a good mother so kids are banned from my life but I guess I'm more of an exception than the rule. Most people want those things (especially women), maybe in lesser degrees nowadays, things are changing in that aspect too. But friends-with-benefits for such a long time don't go hand in hand. That's not the concept behind it. Any relationship that long its either a friendship or a serious couple relationship. You will eventually get tired of it because its an emotional demand from the other person, regardless of the ultimate goals for such relationship.

From what I heard, and don't really want to repeat, it's not exactly the sort of species you'd find in a pet store. If he's away from the house for any length of time, he'd need someone who specifically knows how to care for them. Even if he only had horses - a lot of rich people hire someone just to tend to those.

The point with Freddie Mercury and his love is that they're a great example that some people don't need to be in a sexual or traditional relationship to have a long, lasting commitment. And they clearly were dedicated to each other even if they weren't a traditional couple and were platonic friends. Having a wife *doesn't* mean he was straight; but that's not the point here.

I think at last count something like 40% of under 35s were unmarried and the number of people having kids has dropped so much that it's zero population growth in some countries. Japan for instance has been looking for ways to incentivize having kids because so many people don't want them.

 

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" But friends-with-benefits for such a long time don't go hand in hand. That's not the concept behind it. Any relationship that long its either a friendship or a serious couple relationship. You will eventually get tired of it because its an emotional demand from the other person, regardless of the ultimate goals for such relationship. "

 

But you don't know that. Everyone's different, and something that might not work for you might work perfectly well for someone else. The concept of FwB is that you're having sex with someone with no romantic expectations or obligations from them. A lot of people have friends that they keep for their entire lives; decades and decades. A non-platonic friendship that stays on a friendship level, with no other expectations, could certainly last just as long if the people were both on the same page with it. There's no reason to think that it couldn't. If you feel differently that's cool; we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.

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[killuridols]

7 minutes ago, stella said:

From what I heard, and don't really want to repeat, it's not exactly the sort of species you'd find in a pet store. If he's away from the house for any length of time, he'd need someone who specifically knows how to care for them. Even if he only had horses - a lot of rich people hire someone just to tend to those.

I know and more reason to think someone like Sasha wouldn't have the knowledge to take care of that type of animals. I'm sure he has someone to take care of them, but that's not Sasha. Cats and dogs are ok for her.

There are other people who serve Axl and live permanently in his house. A fan from Argentina who recently made a trip to his mansion and rang his bell said she was received by this woman who's name I dont remember right now and she's like the maid or something. I assume they can take care of cats and dogs as well.

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The point with Freddie Mercury and his love is that they're a great example that some people don't need to be in a sexual or traditional relationship to have a long, lasting commitment. And they clearly were dedicated to each other even if they weren't a traditional couple and were platonic friends. Having a wife *doesn't* mean he was straight; but that's not the point here.

 

Not sure the Freddy Mercury situation is the best example for this because there's still the underlying issue of the homosexuality and how this choice was and is still somewhat difficult to be open about.

Axl and Sasha are straight people (as far as I know, lol) hence they enjoy the priviledges of belonging to a majority that is hardly ever questioned about their sexual partners or romantic relationships.
 

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But you don't know that. Everyone's different, and something that might not work for you might work perfectly well for someone else. The concept of FwB is that you're having sex with someone with no romantic expectations or obligations from them. A lot of people have friends that they keep for their entire lives; decades and decades. A non-platonic friendship that stays on a friendship level, with no other expectations, could certainly last just as long if the people were both on the same page with it. There's no reason to think that it couldn't. 

 

I may not know their particular case but I've been there, done that too. And I also have friends going for that kind of stuff and other people I know. So I know life stories and how much drama it brings. Friends with benefit sometimes is not as independent and free and open minded as some may think. Relationships are complicated all the time. People are complicated. One bad move, one mistake and you've got an earthquake in a minute. Actually, those kinds of relationships are sometimes unhealthy. It takes a special mind and maturity to carry on with them, without mixing feelings. How do you regulate not falling in love with your FWB? That's another challenge for that kind of relationship.

People are not robots, this cold thing of "no romantic expectations or obligations" does not always go that way, as the perfect idea it seems. It's theory but in practice, I have my reservations. Ten years of that? I don't think so.

But hey! again, that's me

 

[stella]

1 hour ago, killuridols said:

I may not know their particular case but I've been there, done that too. And I also have friends going for that kind of stuff and other people I know. So I know life stories and how much drama it brings. Friends with benefit sometimes is not as independent and free and open minded as some may think. Relationships are complicated all the time. People are complicated. One bad move, one mistake and you've got an earthquake in a minute. Actually, those kinds of relationships are sometimes unhealthy. It takes a special mind and maturity to carry on with them, without mixing feelings. How do you regulate not falling in love with your FWB? That's another challenge for that kind of relationship.

People are not robots, this cold thing of "no romantic expectations or obligations" does not always go that way, as the perfect idea it seems. It's theory but in practice, I have my reservations. Ten years of that? I don't think so.

But hey! again, that's me

 

Ya know, others commenting here may have particular experiences too, and they may have worked out well. Just saying. The thing with anecdotal evidence, either for or against, is that it's a very small sample size. Everyone's relationships and particular circumstances are different.

 

Agreeing to disagree and all.

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