jz1276 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I've been watching Youtube clips for hours of the tour and Axl sounds... like Axl. I think this is the best he has sounded in 20 years I'd like to think that it's due to the return of Slash & Duff that let Axl get the rasp back but sadly there must be some vocal processing going on right? Even songs like Rocket Queen & November Rain where Mickey voice was at an all time high sound great now. What do you guys think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenan Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Mickey is still there and I couldn't care less about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenYou'reTalkinToYourself Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 33 minutes ago, jz1276 said: I've been watching Youtube clips for hours of the tour and Axl sounds... like Axl. I think this is the best he has sounded in 20 years I'd like to think that it's due to the return of Slash & Duff that let Axl get the rasp back but sadly there must be some vocal processing going on right? Even songs like Rocket Queen & November Rain where Mickey voice was at an all time high sound great now. What do you guys think? I don't see why it's sad to have his old vocal coach helping him again. That means that he is motivated for all this thing. And this motivation surely stems from being again with Slash and Duff (and the ACDC thing as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 34 minutes ago, jz1276 said: I've been watching Youtube clips for hours of the tour and Axl sounds... like Axl. I think this is the best he has sounded in 20 years I'd like to think that it's due to the return of Slash & Duff that let Axl get the rasp back but sadly there must be some vocal processing going on right? Even songs like Rocket Queen & November Rain where Mickey voice was at an all time high sound great now. What do you guys think? If you like rasp, then his voice is definitely not the best it's been in 20 years. Check out some 2010 videos. He sounded waaaayyyy more raspy back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Nosaj Thing Posted July 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2016 Mickey is still present but Axl is giving his best, so... can't complain. Plus, you now have REAL Gn'R members Slash and Duff to focus your attention on. Every single video I find myself waiting for Slash's solos. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spliff Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 43 minutes ago, jz1276 said: I've been watching Youtube clips for hours of the tour and Axl sounds... like Axl. I think this is the best he has sounded in 20 years I'd like to think that it's due to the return of Slash & Duff that let Axl get the rasp back but sadly there must be some vocal processing going on right? Even songs like Rocket Queen & November Rain where Mickey voice was at an all time high sound great now. What do you guys think? sure it's not mickey but best in 20 years? divide that by 4 maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted July 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Nosaj Thing said: Mickey is still present but Axl is giving his best, so... can't complain. Plus, you now have REAL Gn'R members Slash and Duff to focus your attention on. Every single video I find myself waiting for Slash's solos. I was gonna post something similar. People are gonna call me an apologist, but from what I've seen, Axl is giving 100% and that's all I can ask for. There is a VAST difference for me in the effort level between the last time I saw GN'R and these shows. Does he sound perfect on everything at every show? Nope. Far from it. HOWEVER, he gives way more of a shit then I've seen him give since Hammerstein 2006 and Detroit 1993 before that. That matters way more to me then whether or not he uses rasp every night on NR, YCBM or SCOM. As for Slash... dude is killing it. Anyone saying otherwise is unreasonable in their dislike for Slash. That dude is absolutely killing his own material and bringing new life to shit he didn't even right. If Axl looks like he gives a shit, then Slash looks like he's giving ALL of the fucks possible. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 7 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Hate to spoil your fun, but nobody's actually fighting bout anything. Most people, me included are happy that Axl's giving it his all. And he sounds great overall. Facts are facts though and he's not as raspy as in 2010. You don't need to lie to yourself to enjoy these shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Lies They Tell said: Hate to spoil your fun, but nobody's actually fighting bout anything. Most people, me included are happy that Axl's giving it his all. And he sounds great overall. Facts are facts though and he's not as raspy as in 2010. You don't need to lie to yourself to enjoy these shows. Oh I know............just wait............... I totally agree with your point though. When I saw them in Vegas & Detroit, I wasn't like "OMGZ! IT'S 2010 ALL OVER AGAIN11!!!!111!!" but I also wasn't sitting there with a notebook jotting down things like "2:10 into NR; no rasp. Wait. 4:57; rasp is back" I was busy having an awesome time and taking the whole affair in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy14 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) People shitting on Axl in 3, 2, 1.... Edited July 1, 2016 by Andy14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEPTEM Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Not only the "rasp" is back. Also the " slash mojo" is back as well. Slash was havin awfull performances before this reunion . that smkc at the roxy is the worst ive seen of slash .. What a terrible performance. Now this "not in this life time" slash?? Now he's unfire. He is "slash Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lies They Tell Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 2 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Oh I know............just wait............... I totally agree with your point though. When I saw them in Vegas & Detroit, I wasn't like "OMGZ! IT'S 2010 ALL OVER AGAIN11!!!!111!!" but I also wasn't sitting there with a notebook jotting down things like "2:10 into NR; no rasp. Wait. 4:57; rasp is back" I was busy having an awesome time and taking the whole affair in. That's the right attitude. Don't really understand these "OMGZ IT'S THE BEST AXLS SOUNDED IN 20 YEARZ11!!1"-people though, especially if rasp is their criteria for a good voice. Like I said, these are great reunion shows, there's no need to lie to yourself in order to enjoy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eggers Posted July 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2016 I think something fundamentally changed in Axl's life and we are seeing a new person. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipm787 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 11 minutes ago, SEPTEM said: Not only the "rasp" is back. Also the " slash mojo" is back as well. Slash was havin awfull performances before this reunion . that smkc at the roxy is the worst ive seen of slash .. What a terrible performance. Now this "not in this life time" slash?? Now he's unfire. He is "slash Again Mate you're talking absolute horseshit. Slash gives 100%, all the time, and he was absolutely brilliant with SMKC and will continue to be. Give us some examples of Slashs 'terrible' performances? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy14 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 3 minutes ago, Lies They Tell said: That's the right attitude. Don't really understand these "OMGZ IT'S THE BEST AXLS SOUNDED IN 20 YEARZ11!!1"-people though, especially if rasp is their criteria for a good voice. Like I said, these are great reunion shows, there's no need to lie to yourself in order to enjoy them. Exactly. "This second line in the first verse of jungle is the best Axl has sounded since 1988, but this third word in the chorus is a complete disaster, full Mickey, he's already lost his voice, the reunion is over" I'm really enjoying these shows, even though the time zones don't give me a chance to watch it live. Axl is doing great, so is Slash and Duff. The energy, stage presence and overall feeling is what matters. I don't care about a couple of missed notes, you can see that they're having fun and putting everyhing into it. And that's what makes me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 8 minutes ago, eggers said: I think something fundamentally changed in Axl's life and we are seeing a new person. Absolutely. The dude just looks like a much, MUCH happier person. Couldn't agree more that he is like a different (better) dude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedrolg Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 With Guns he sounds better than 02 and 11-14 for sure. Not as raspy as some would like, but he sounds good, his clean voice is also better and more powerful. With AC/DC he sounds like an absolute force of nature. All things considered it's a great year for Axl. Even with diminished skills he is still a very impressive singer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted July 1, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Andy14 said: People shitting on Axl in 3, 2, 1.... LoL. Yeah, here we go again. "The rasp" vs "Mickey". 4 hours ago, RussTCB said: I was gonna post something similar. People are gonna call me an apologist, but from what I've seen, Axl is giving 100% and that's all I can ask for. There is a VAST difference for me in the effort level between the last time I saw GN'R and these shows. Does he sound perfect on everything at every show? Nope. Far from it. HOWEVER, he gives way more of a shit then I've seen him give since Hammerstein 2006 and Detroit 1993 before that. That matters way more to me then whether or not he uses rasp every night on NR, YCBM or SCOM. As for Slash... dude is killing it. Anyone saying otherwise is unreasonable in their dislike for Slash. That dude is absolutely killing his own material and bringing new life to shit he didn't even right. If Axl looks like he gives a shit, then Slash looks like he's giving ALL of the fucks possible. 3 hours ago, Pedrolg said: With Guns he sounds better than 02 and 11-14 for sure. Not as raspy as some would like, but he sounds good, his clean voice is also better and more powerful. With AC/DC he sounds like an absolute force of nature. All things considered it's a great year for Axl. Even with diminished skills he is still a very impressive singer. I agree. Axl is giving everything he has for these reunion shows as well as for the AC/DC ones. Is his voice at 1993 or 2006 level, let alone 1988? No (he seems more motivated now than 2006 and 2010 though). It doesn't mean that he's not still a very good singer and a great frontman, better than most out there. And he still has something no one else has: the versatility in his singing and the ability to transform his voice and style from song to song so much that it gives the impression it's another person singing. It's not just a matter of hitting the notes and vocal range (others have wide range, too), it's mostly about feeling it. Axl still growls like a wild animal on Jungle and Out Ta Get Me, he sounds fragile with this whiny voice (raspy or not) on Estranged and This I Love, he can sing Back In Black like a demon (since we now have the AC/DC repertoire too), and he makes Patience, this simple and "easy-to-sing" ballad, with his natural tender and soulful voice, a song that could be sung in a church or something. I don't know, maybe I'm exaggerating here, but I think no singer alive can do this, at least to such an extent. I see that the majority of fans here appreciate only the rasp, but I like Axl's "natural" voice (I don't know if the term is correct, I mean the voice he uses e.g. for the main part of Patience and the verses of Civil War) as much as the raspy one. November Rain will be fine for me if they slow it down and Axl sings it with this voice. Slash seemed a bit aloof in the April shows (in the Artisan News clip he said that he didn't expect much and he didn't give it much thought, he'd just go up and play). But now he's not just 100% in it, he almost owns the show. And Axl seems very happy that Slash shines on the stage. Edited July 1, 2016 by Blackstar 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 4 hours ago, Kenan said: Mickey is still there and I couldn't care less about it. Where? Show me? I haven't heard Mickey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikki_Sixx Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Lose Mickey ??? And you spent hours listening to these 'reunion' shows ? You must not have been paying attention ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 1 minute ago, Nikki_Sixx said: Lose Mickey ??? And you spent hours listening to these 'reunion' shows ? You must not have been paying attention ... I'm sure that's what he said. You don't have a reading problem. Show us where you've heard Mickey, I haven't heard it (I'll concede I may have). But the point is I imagine what you think is Mickey, others don't and probably isn't. So, show me where you think you've heard Mickey...ill be waiting. 4 hours ago, Philipm787 said: Mate you're talking absolute horseshit. Slash gives 100%, all the time, and he was absolutely brilliant with SMKC and will continue to be. Give us some examples of Slashs 'terrible' performances? He did give you an example, read his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWINGTRADER Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 It didn't take a reunion to bring back the rasp because it has not returned. ACDC did that for him, not Guns. He doesn't seem to care enough about GNR to sing correctly. I am still wondering what motivated him to sing the way he did in 2010. That is still a mystery. Whatever it was, I wish it happened again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 13 minutes ago, SWINGTRADER said: It didn't take a reunion to bring back the rasp because it has not returned. ACDC did that for him, not Guns. He doesn't seem to care enough about GNR to sing correctly. I am still wondering what motivated him to sing the way he did in 2010. That is still a mystery. Whatever it was, I wish it happened again. I can show you examples where it has...not accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I've heard Mickey for sure at times.. Some performances of RQ, YCBM, Sweet Cild. PC.. I think he is supposed to sound like that on Better.. It is definitely less prevalent that it used to and seemed to come out more during the early shows. It seems to be on the verge of coming out at other times but you can hear Axl fighting it. He could sound better at times but seems to be giving it 100% and that is good enough for me. He does seem winded at times during the more challenging songs. I bet dropping about 20-40 pounds would help with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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