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13 minutes ago, GingerHair said:

I don't think Duff had a lot of contact with Stephanie back on the days, so why should he be bothered by her anyway? In 91-92, Axl was living a separated life, not really hanging out with the rest of the band anymore; in an old interview, Slash was asked about Stephanie and he says something like that he didn't really know her at all, that she was only Axl's chick. 

Seems that in GNR's field, they are cool about exes. Meeghan seems to be VERY friend with Mandy Brixx (they are super active on each others IG account) and that doesn't seem to be a problem with Duff and Susan either.

But they are all cool with each other. Stephanie bashed Axl just a few years ago in an interview. I agree it could be awkward. Just imagine meeting up with someone who's very bitter about a friend of yours. Sure, you can meet up, I'm not saying you shouldn't, but I would feel a bit awkward.

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23 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

Idk just could be kind of awkward. Plus I'm not sure that Slash has seen Erin anytime recently.

I understand that. Some people find it awkward. Others find it cool. And yet others don't care one way or another.

We had a similar debate long ago about an Erin and Slash picture. This took place before the reunion was announced. I don't know if Slash, Meghan and Erin are very close friends. But from time to time they used to meet

 

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9 minutes ago, Lio said:

But they are all cool with each other. Stephanie bashed Axl just a few years ago in an interview. I agree it could be awkward. Just imagine meeting up with someone who's very bitter about a friend of yours. Sure, you can meet up, I'm not saying you shouldn't, but I would feel a bit awkward.

I don't know for sure how Duff feels about Stephanie but... haven't they ALL bashed Axl over the years, much more repeatedly?  In this extend, they probably all agree the man was a pain in the ass so Duff might even be sympathetic to her. ;)

GNR probably has a complete other level of awkwardness tolerance: Duff got in good terms with Kurt Cobain at end, despite the public feud; Slash and Axl are now in good terms, after years of cross-fire; Meegan, Erin and Mandy kept in contact over the years (although we don't know if Erin is still part of the equation); and, oh gosh, Meegan doesn't mind to show all her teenage love to Slash, despite his nasty words about her on his book. 

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1 hour ago, GingerHair said:

I don't think Duff had a lot of contact with Stephanie back on the days, so why should he be bothered by her anyway? In 91-92, Axl was living a separated life, not really hanging out with the rest of the band anymore; in an old interview, Slash was asked about Stephanie and he says something like that he didn't really know her at all, that she was only Axl's chick. 

Seems that in GNR's field, they are cool about exes. Meeghan seems to be VERY friend with Mandy Brixx (they are super active on each others IG account) and that doesn't seem to be a problem with Duff and Susan either.

Who's Mandy?

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5 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

Who's Mandy?

Duff first wife

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I like it that Susan is friendly with Stephanie, as they were something like former collegues. They’re not caring about what the guys would think or do and neither do I.

Always liked Stephanie and never thought she was a gold-digger, by the way. She already was a succesful model and didn’t need Axl as her boyfriend to become any more famous. She fell for him, she was only 21 at the time. She liked getting attention through music videos which is a thing many of the supermodels did. I also understand that Stephanie never wants to talk about that time anymore.

My 2 cents.

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19 hours ago, marlingrl03 said:

Here it is.

:wow:

Whoa!! hahahah I LOVE IT!!! :headbang:

15 hours ago, GingerHair said:

And Beta picked up a fight with one of Susan's follower who teased Axl because of Stephanie  (I'm not tech savvy enough to paste it here)

:facepalm: Jeez, what a loser that woman is..... is she in love with Axl?

Seems to me that she is.... otherwise, why pick up a fight with a nobody from the social networks over some bollocks that happened 30 years ago??

Talk to me about holding grudges and living with hate and poison inside :vomit:

 

9 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Axl is still friends with Sante D' Orazio, the photographer, who seems to be also friends (or at least friendly) with Stephanie.

I read in the NY Times that Sante dated Stephanie before she dated Axl.

Sante has photos of his work with Stephanie previous to her relationship with Axl.

Which also confirms that theory about Axl loving to eat his friends leftovers :lol:

 

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15 minutes ago, killuridols said:

I read in the NY Times that Sante dated Stephanie before she dated Axl.

Sante has photos of his work with Stephanie previous to her relationship with Axl.

Which also confirms that theory about Axl loving to eat his friends leftovers

You mean this article?

https://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/fashion/22Brant.html

It doesn't say that he dated Stephanie, only that they were friends and co-workers and he introduced her to Peter Brant.

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42 minutes ago, killuridols said:

No, its not that. I remember I saw it on IG.

He’s posted a bunch of stuff on IG (both captions and pics) that suggest they knew each other intimately. He was known for “dating” his subjects back in the day and  he took the absolute hottest photos of her (her Playboy shoot and a bunch of others). There was one post of the two of them that he deleted after Axl fans started attacking him 🤣

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5 minutes ago, Angelica said:

He’s posted a bunch of stuff on IG (both captions and pics) that suggest they knew each other intimately. He was known for “dating” his subjects back in the day and  he took the absolute hottest photos of her (her Playboy shoot and a bunch of others). There was one post of the two of them that he deleted after Axl fans started attacking him 🤣

Yes, yes, yes, yes!!! :headbang:

I mixed up the sources but I remember the pictures and captions. I had them saved in my other IG account and now when I tried to retrieve them, they're not there anymore.... or maybe I don't even know which folder I put them :lol:, it's been sooooo long since I have checked anything related to GN'R, but yes, there was one pic where she's like totally naked :o and he is behind her... lol... it's impossible those two didn't have sex at all.

Steph was a bomb and free-minded woman, that's why the misogynists and conservative women dislike her. She did as she pleased, like we all should do. It's hard for me to see how she damaged Axl so badly, when he was the one who physically hurt her and obsessed over her for more than a decade :shrugs:

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BTW, can someone explain to me what the poster in Susan's IG meant by "Axl you snooze you lose"? I don't understand the expression :question:

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13 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Yes, yes, yes, yes!!! :headbang:

I mixed up the sources but I remember the pictures and captions. I had them saved in my other IG account and now when I tried to retrieve them, they're not there anymore.... or maybe I don't even know which folder I put them :lol:, it's been sooooo long since I have checked anything related to GN'R, but yes, there was one pic where she's like totally naked :o and he is behind her... lol... it's impossible those two didn't have sex at all.

Steph was a bomb and free-minded woman, that's why the misogynists and conservative women dislike her. She did as she pleased, like we all should do. It's hard for me to see how she damaged Axl so badly, when he was the one who physically hurt her and obsessed over her for more than a decade :shrugs:

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BTW, can someone explain to me what the poster in Susan's IG meant by "Axl you snooze you lose"? I don't understand the expression :question:

 

I’ve always believed Axl took the breakup so hard because he’d allowed himself to get so attached to Dylan and he thought having a family would ‘fix’ his past and mental health issues. But that’s on Axl, not Stephanie. 

‘You snooze you lose’ means you waited too long and missed out on something, it doesn’t fit the situation though. 

 

 

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18 hours ago, GingerHair said:

I don't know for sure how Duff feels about Stephanie but... haven't they ALL bashed Axl over the years, much more repeatedly?  In this extend, they probably all agree the man was a pain in the ass so Duff might even be sympathetic to her. ;)

GNR probably has a complete other level of awkwardness tolerance: Duff got in good terms with Kurt Cobain at end, despite the public feud; Slash and Axl are now in good terms, after years of cross-fire; Meegan, Erin and Mandy kept in contact over the years (although we don't know if Erin is still part of the equation); and, oh gosh, Meegan doesn't mind to show all her teenage love to Slash, despite his nasty words about her on his book. 

"Meegan doesn't mind to show all her teenage love to Slash, despite his nasty words about her on his book."

ive always wondered how slash feels about writing that stuff now.

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7 hours ago, Angelica said:

 

I’ve always believed Axl took the breakup so hard because he’d allowed himself to get so attached to Dylan and he thought having a family would ‘fix’ his past and mental health issues. But that’s on Axl, not Stephanie. 

‘You snooze you lose’ means you waited too long and missed out on something, it doesn’t fit the situation though. 

 

 

To be honest, thats how duff f e lt when things fell apart betwee  him and mandy.

I think axl saw steph and dylan as having the type of family that he didnt have and wanted to have a stable life with them....until the relationship went sour and doesnt excuse his behaviour.

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Beta had her own issues with Stephane, no? Thats why she quit and went with Axl?

So even if the comment was about Axl, maybe the entire subject is raw for Betas own reasons too?

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42 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

To be honest, thats how duff f e lt when things fell apart betwee  him and mandy.

I think axl saw steph and dylan as having the type of family that he didnt have and wanted to have a stable life with them....until the relationship went sour and doesnt excuse his behaviour.

Agreed. But again, that’s on him not her.

46 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

"Meegan doesn't mind to show all her teenage love to Slash, despite his nasty words about her on his book."

ive always wondered how slash feels about writing that stuff now.

Or more to the point, how she does 🤣

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53 minutes ago, soon said:

Beta had her own issues with Stephane, no? Thats why she quit and went with Axl?

So even if the comment was about Axl, maybe the entire subject is raw for Betas own reasons too?

No, Beta didn't have any issues with Stepahanie. When Axl and Stephanie broke up Beta also left Axl. Remember, at that time Stephanie was Beta's boss not Axl. Soon after that Axl called Beta. He offered her a job and she took it. 

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32 minutes ago, Padme said:

No, Beta didn't have any issues with Stepahanie. When Axl and Stephanie broke up Beta also left Axl. Remember, at that time Stephanie was Beta's boss not Axl. Soon after that Axl called Beta. He offered her a job and she took it. 

Yeah, I thought she quit working for Stephanie when Axl and her broke up? I must have that timeline wrong. But I swear I remember reading a quote from Beta about it being an easy choice to leave with the implication being that she didnt think well of Stephanie.

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I've often wondered if it isn't awkward for Meegan and Axl to be around one another. She was the one who testified against him in Erin's lawsuit and called him a pig. If I was in Meegan's position, I'd probably continue to hold it against Axl what he did to my friend. Not that I know whether Meegan and Erin are still friends. I thought they had a fallout at some point?

As for Susan and Stephanie, no reason for any awkwardness there as far as I can tell. It would be quite a stretch to suggest that Susan should allow the singer in her husband's band to dictate who she can and cannot be friends with.

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2 minutes ago, soon said:

Yeah, I thought she quit working for Stephanie when Axl and her broke up? I must have that timeline wrong. But I swear I remember reading a quote from Beta about it being an easy choice to leave with the implication being that she didnt think well of Stephanie.

Yes, I remember that also.

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7 minutes ago, soon said:

Yeah, I thought she quit working for Stephanie when Axl and her broke up? I must have that timeline wrong. But I swear I remember reading a quote from Beta about it being an easy choice to leave with the implication being that she didnt think well of Stephanie.

 

3 minutes ago, Scream of the Butterfly said:

Yes, I remember that also.

Yeah, it's here:

http://ladydairhean.0catch.com/Axl/Interviews/article0155.htm

She didn't really seem to like Stephanie and she hadn't been with her long before she met Axl. Rereading that, I can understand why she might still be bitter about Stephanie, if she thinks she's not a nice person who was never there for her child. But still no reason to tell people to shut up about Axl because they don't know him :lol:

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44 minutes ago, soon said:

Yeah, I thought she quit working for Stephanie when Axl and her broke up? I must have that timeline wrong. But I swear I remember reading a quote from Beta about it being an easy choice to leave with the implication being that she didnt think well of Stephanie.

She badmouth Stephanie AFTER she was hired by Axl. She did an interview during RIR 2001. And there she went after Stephanie. Nobody should be surprised. One thing for sure,if Stephanie would've never been part of Axl's life. Beta wouldn't be in the position she is today.

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10 hours ago, Angelica said:

I’ve always believed Axl took the breakup so hard because he’d allowed himself to get so attached to Dylan and he thought having a family would ‘fix’ his past and mental health issues. But that’s on Axl, not Stephanie. 

That's a reasonable analysis.

10 hours ago, Angelica said:

'You snooze you lose’ means you waited too long and missed out on something, it doesn’t fit the situation though. 

Tnx. It didn't make sense to me that's why I didn't understand... It's strange that Beta picked this comment to argue with. 

2 hours ago, soon said:

Beta had her own issues with Stephane, no? Thats why she quit and went with Axl?

So even if the comment was about Axl, maybe the entire subject is raw for Betas own reasons too?

Yes, I think so. Holding such grudges for so long speaks volumes to me, but I don't want to expand my opinion on that because there is a 1% chance that I would be talking out of my ass :lol:

15 minutes ago, Padme said:

She badmouth Stephanie AFTER she was hired by Axl. She did an interview during RIR 2001. And there she went after Stephanie. Nobody should be surprised. One thing for sure,if Stephanie would've never been part of Axl's life. Beta wouldn't be in the position she is today.

Beta says Stephanie was with her in a different way than she was with others... I wonder what the hell that means :question:

Sounds like Beta was bitter about not becoming Stephanie's right hand and confessor? Drawing a line with the domestic service is always difficult, they know everything about you and when you part ways with them, they go talking bullshit around. Imagine what would happen if Axl was to fire Beta some day... :wow:

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2 hours ago, killuridols said:

Imagine what would happen if Axl was to fire Beta some day... :wow:

By now Beta is a woman with resources. She is a manager/assistant and she makes a good amount of money. She could mess up and lose everything. But that remains to be seen.

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1 hour ago, Padme said:

By now Beta is a woman with resources. She is a manager/assistant and she makes a good amount of money. She could mess up and lose everything. But that remains to be seen.

Yeah. Though I meant in the sense of speaking and ventilating personal stuff about her boss.

She should not have said those things about her former employer. Sounds unprofessional and like a gossiper.

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