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If you open the background video in a new tab you can see GN'R in the bottom right. Possible cover for a single?

I think the page is unfinished, as they haven't officially shared the link yet (weren't expecting obsessives to be checking the URL every day ). Maybe the link will be shared on social media after a live performance beforehand?

Most likely Trunk is referring to the Schenker album (the one we’ve seen Slash and likely Axl record parts for in studios). Will we get The General by the end of the year? Already looking at flights to Vancouver…

I wonder if the countdown is for something like a 30 second preview?

Now we believe even more 🙏🏼🎉🙌🏼

Yup, you got all three I mentioned: If the World and Scraped at Hamilton, and Dead Horse at Hershey. I think the only ChiDem song that wasn’t played live in NA past ‘06 was I.R.S.? Though it wasn’t a staple in 2010, either (I only heard it at the London shows). I feel like Maiden have a larger percentage of the crowd who are there to hear something they haven’t heard before, if not something new entirely. Whereas with GNR I feel like they have to cater to an audience comprising of: 60% who just want to hear SCOM, KOHD, NR and PC +25% who want to hear AFD and UYI staples like ISE, YCBM, RQ, Estranged +10% who want to hear AFD and UYI deep cuts like Anything Goes and Bad Obsession +4% who want to hear ChiDem tracks +1% who want to hear new music* It’s a tough balancing act and I feel like this year they’ve struck a good balance, though the set has gotten longer. I remember the day after the Tallinn gig in 2018 a girl telling the waitress the show was good but she found it too long. Hardcores like us love hearing everything but the people who only want to hear the hits would rather go home earlier. Once they include Perhaps (hopefully on these upcoming NA gigs), I feel like they’ll cater to 100% of the crowd. *Literally no one wants to hear them play Wichita Linemam ever again, at least outside of NA EDIT: Just had a look at a Taylor Swift setlist and she does 45 songs a night???!!! Hats off to her, very impressive, especially for an artist whose second album was released just two weeks before ChiDem.

What was that comment someone made a while back about there being three “camps” in GNR back in ‘00-‘02, and one was just Axl and Bucket on their own since no one else (except Brain) got on with Bucket? All talented musicians but there were definitely hurt egos.

Was wondering how many songs I had heard live in total from 31 concerts over 13 years: From AFD, 10 out of 12: WTTJ ISE Nightrain OTGM Brownstone PC My Michelle SCOM Anything Goes RQ From G N' R Lies, 5 out of 8: Reckless Life Nice Boys Patience Used to Love Her You’re Crazy From UYI I, 6 out of 16: LALD Don’t Cry Bad Obsession DTJ NR Coma From UYI II, 8 out of 14: Civil War 14 Years Yesterdays KOHD PTU Locomotive Estranged YCBM From TSI, 4.5 out of 13 New Rose Down on the Farm Raw Power Attitude Memory (sort of, intro to others) From CD, 11 out of 14: CD SR Better SOD TWAT Catcher Sorry IRS Madagascar TIL Prostitute Other Covers come to 7: The Seeker Wichita Lineman Whole Lotta Rosie Walk All Over You Dead Flowers Slither Black Hole Sun And 3 non-album singles: SOYL ABSURD Hard Skool Totals: 54.5 songs (not including other solo spots) 51 (not including any Duff solo spots) 44 (minus all non-album covers, including Slither) 42 (minus Nice Boys and DOTF, so no TSI included at all) 40 (if you count KOHD and LALD as covers) 38 true GNR originals (if you want to be really pedantic and count Reckless Life and SOYL as covers since they were originally for Hollywood Rose) I think that's a pretty decent number over the years. The setlist didn't change much between gigs in 2012 or 2017, and the two shows I went to in 2018 were identical to each other, but other years were healthier in terms of variation, especially 2023, credit to the band there. Just for fun (and for @Powerage5's interest ), I decided to tot up how many Iron Maiden songs I had seen live in the same time period. I only saw them for the first time in 2013 and saw them twice on that Maiden England tour, but if you're not aware about Maiden, they don't change the setlist throughout a tour as they have quite an elaborate stage set-up planned out. However, they do change it quite a bit between tours. I've seen them five times total on four different tours, so I thought I would look at the setlist of the first show I went to, then add on all the extra songs over the years: London, August 2013 - Maiden England Tour: Moonchild Can I Play with Madness The Prisoner 2 Minutes to Midnight Afraid to Shoot Strangers The Trooper The Number of the Beast Phantom of the Opera Run to the Hills Wasted Years Seventh Son of a Seventh Son The Clairvoyant Fear of the Dark Iron Maiden Aces High The Evil That Men Do Running Free 17 songs (their sets are typically 15-17 songs long) London, May 2017 (GNR played TWAT this same night in Ireland ) - The Book of Souls Tour, If Eternity Should Fail Speed of Light Wrathchild Children of the Damned Death or Glory The Red and the Black Powerslave The Great Unknown The Book of Souls Blood Brothers +10 songs that weren't played on the last tour (and that I hadn't heard before) Mexico City, September 2019 - Legacy of the Beast Tour: Where Eagles Dare The Clansman Revelations For the Greater Good of God The Wicker Man Sign of the Cross Flight of Icarus Hallowed Be Thy Name +8 And I caught them this year in June in Krakow on their Somewhere in Time Tour (marking this as a spoiler for anyone who is going to a future show on this leg who doesn't know what's on the setlist): +9, which brings us to a total of... 41 songs (no covers, obviously). I can't really say that one band "beats" the other, they both have different approaches. GNR's catalogue is obviously a lot more limited, but Iron Maiden have a few years on them as well, and I felt on the latest tour they could have played maybe one or more two hits for the casuals who seemed really lost at some points. GNR play *much* longer shows, especially these days. There also used to far more solo spots and jams, but (thankfully) those have been trimmed down to just one Duff and one Slash solo spot per show. I do miss the Another Brick in the Wall intro to NR Obviously I could have gone to fewer shows and got even more songs if I knew which gigs to go to, e.g. gigs where they played Dead Horse, If the World, and Scraped, but I really can't complain at this stage. I was gonna look at setlists for the six Bruce Springsteen shows I've been to since 2013 but I'd be here all bloody day Though the last two I went to didn't vary as much, which seems to be a common complaint from his die-hard fans online (I'm more of a casual with him but will always check him out when he comes to London, puts on a fantastic show).

Was looking at the setlist for the Buenos Aires 2014 show and apparently I heard My Michelle live for the first time then? Forgot about that, was also the live debut of Raw Power and the only time I heard that at a gig. Was a wild show even if it didn't go as planned (I got early entry but gave up on the barrier as soon as doors opened as people started shoving aggressively straight away, before any acts even appeared, and I had food poisoning from a dodgy hot-dog ). Also looked at how much I paid for the ticket: 785 Argentinian pesos. Back then that was just under £60... now it's £2.20

I love Axl’s voice on that Taipei performance. Shame about Ashba’s solo. What’s weird is in the 2009 rehearsal Ashba nails it the first time… and then messes it up (slightly, not as bad as Taipei) when they play it again straight after. I would say it was nerves at the Taipei show but he got it right at least once before but never again

22nd of May - Rammstein, Vilnius (first time seeing them) 8th of June - Rammstein, Munich Olympiastadion 13th of June - Iron Maiden, Krakow 26th of June - The Warning, London 27th of June - Guns N' Roses, Glasgow 30th of June - Guns N' Roses, London, Hyde Park 4th of July - Nile Rodgers & Chic, London 6th of July - Bruce Springsteen, London, Hyde Park 7th of July - Billy Joel, London, Hyde Park 8th of July - Bruce Springsteen, London, Hyde Park 13th of July - Guns N' Roses, Paris 16th of July - Guns N' Roses, Bucharest 22nd of July - Rammstein, Paris Done for the year (with the exception of a small Yann Tiersen gig in Liverpool in a few weeks). Rammstein can't be beat when it comes to pyro etc., epic stadium show (first time was GA, second was seated, third was FEUERZONE) Maiden coming out with the deep cuts (at the expense of crowdpleasers, leading to a dead audience at times) Nile Rodgers always fun The Warning were a blast in a small venue Springsteen good as always but less variation in his setlist on this tour between gigs Billy Joel a lot of fun (audience interaction, jokes, etc.), also surprise Joe Jonas appearance

Anyone remember an interview with an orchestra musician from around 2009 (before we knew about the Asia dates) saying that they were gonna go on tour with GNR? I can't find it now, but I remember thinking how awesome it would be to hear TIL etc. performed live with an orchestra. I guess it got scrapped for cost reasons but it would be fun to have as a limited run thing.

Taylor also has trucks full of stage equipment etc. for an elaborate show. Was watching the 2009 rehearsal recently and remembered how much I liked the pyro & lightning that "revealed" Axl when ChiDem was an opener and the pyro/sparks for WTTJ, LALD, and NR, and the confetti for PC. The current show feels really anaemic for a stadium concert, especially after having seen Rammstein a few times this year. A stripped-down stage setup wouldn't be so bad if they were playing smaller venues.

If they were to do a UCAP Mk. II tour I'd be happy to pay the prices they're currently asking in the US to be seated half a mile away in a stadium to instead see them up close and personal in a club. The Atlantic City gig I went to in 2012 is one of my favourite concerts I've ever been to.

Just realised I never heard Out Ta Get Me live until I went to the Toronto '16 gig and My Michelle until the second Saitama '17 show. OTGM was definitely the highlight of the Toronto show for me, Axl absolutely fucking killed it. Wonder if Think About You will make a comeback? The song is basically rasp-free but it is all in the high voice.

Highlight for me out of the four I went to was definitely Paris. Axl was good on Prostitute, and I was really impressed by Slash both on Prostitute and TWAT. The former always used to be a disaster with the '09-'14 lineup and Slash used to struggle on the latter but he pleasantly surprised me. Also really liked Slash's outro on Locomotive at Bucharest, and when Axl used his lower voice I thought that was better than previous attempts since they brought that track out again.

Still waiting for that solo album he talked about back in 2013! Only seen him live once with NIN in 2014. Looks like Elfman is playing London in October but sans Finck :/

Also stuff like - the Creem magazine relaunch (which did eventually happen last year, but pretty sure they were never gonna promote a re-release of ChiDem) - Sheng Tang Music Festival: no such thing - Offers to play festivals in Shanghai and Beijing????? Since the Village leaks in 2019 I've become more and more convinced that that was just a joke from Axl that people took seriously and started making connections with plans to do a song for Mr. Nice Guy back in the '90s. "Checkmate" was just what the leaker was saying in response to Merck etc. trying to buy him off. I think the only legit title the song ever had was Hard Skool.

RyanAir/easyJet/WizzAir are your friend I remember back in 2010 I did London - Paris - Geneva - London for about £70. My most expensive flight this year by far was Paris -> Bucharest because it was on Bastille Day and last minute (144 euros), my other flights (London -> Paris, Bucharest -> London) were around £30. For Glasgow I braved a Megabus (£30 return), probably won't do that ever again Also AirBNBs are much cheaper on the continent than in the UK or the US.

I think Locomotive could’ve been one of the all-time great GNR tracks if it were just a verse (or even two) shorter. That outro is epic but a lot of folk will tap out before getting there.

@6lake sa66ath how long did shipping take? I went with 2nd class delivery for my Paris tee that I ordered on the day of the gig, still don't think it's been dispatched.

Friend and I got cheap upper bowl seats for the Toronto '16 show. On the day we saw we got bumped up to the lower bowl. I imagine they'll have to do the same again this year.

Fingers crossed for new music 🤞🏼

Looking at setlist.fm, I think this is only the fourth ever show where both Prostitute and TWAT were played. 1. 19th December 2009, Tokyo 2. 6th June 2014, Vegas 3. 29th November 2017, Inglewood 4. 13th July 2023, Paris Also, can our resident Versace experts @Lio and @Rovim let me know if this is a Versace shirt, and if so, where one may purchase it? 👀(the banding on the shirt is from the screen, not the design )

My guess is releasing Perhaps before the US/Canada tour to drum up publicity. Ticket sales for North America have been doo-doo; just had a look at the Moncton show and still a ton available.