CoolRanchDressing Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I just want the new band to have the opportunity to prove once and for all, definitively, head-to-head that they are superior musicians.Nostalgia is nostalgia, sure. And there's no accounting for personal tastes. But superior musicianship isn't debatable. And the re-recorded AFD would settle the dispute once and for all.I don't even know what to say to you....you think someone who can paint the Mona Lisa better than Da Vinci is a better artist than Da Vinci? Lol....No. But I do think there were lots of cheesy eighties production elements, like with the drums for example, that date the record. Do I thnk that the new band's version would replace it in history? No. Do I think they'd suddenly become more popular than a guy who plays with the Black Eyed Peas? No. Would I want to hear it? Yes. Do I think it would exhibit better overall, more well rounded musicianship? Yes, I do. And I'm not sorry of that offends you. If you think Steven Adler = Lenardo Da Vinci, then my friend, you are too ridiculously obsessed with that line-up of your favorite rock band. Holy Cow, talk about being up somebody's butt. You fans of the old band can be so nuts sometimes. Put down the cassettes and step away from your childhoods... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twenty-nine Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I just want the new band to have the opportunity to prove once and for all, definitively, head-to-head that they are superior musicians.Nostalgia is nostalgia, sure. And there's no accounting for personal tastes. But superior musicianship isn't debatable. And the re-recorded AFD would settle the dispute once and for all.I don't even know what to say to you....you think someone who can paint the Mona Lisa better than Da Vinci is a better artist than Da Vinci? Lol....No. But I do think there were lots of cheesy eighties production elements, like with the drums for example, that date the record. Do I thnk that the new band's version would replace it in history? No. Do I think they'd suddenly become more popular than a guy who plays with the Black Eyed Peas? No. Would I want to hear it? Yes. Do I think it would exhibit better overall, more well rounded musicianship? Yes, I do. And I'm not sorry of that offends you. If you think Steven Adler = Lenardo Da Vinci, then my friend, you are too ridiculously obsessed with that line-up of your favorite rock band. Holy Cow, talk about being up somebody's butt. You fans of the old band can be so nuts sometimes. Put down the cassettes and step away from your childhoods...Ignore my post. I've been reading some of your other posts today and don't want to bother myself with someone like you.Have a good day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRanchDressing Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 People talking about the record sounding "dated". Chinese Democracy sounds dated too. The drum loops on IRS and Prostitute (early 2000s) the industrial edge of Better and Shacklers Revenge (late 90s for that style of industrial) the cheesy piano songs This I Love and Street of Dreams (70s arena rock). See, "dated" doesn't mean anything really you can't update something to current times and have it be "technically" better. It would lose all the feeling, mood, atmosphere of the original. That's something nu-gnr fans don't seem to understand. Just because Ron can run circles around Slash with sweeps and tapping and other annoying guitar tricks doesn't mean he could play Slash's relatively simple stuff better than Slash.I'm not opposed to Axl one day re-recording and re-releasing Chinese Democracy either. I think that could be cool, just like I enjoy seeing remakes of movies and TV shows I like. Or new casts in my favorite plays. I happen to like sweeps, tapping and other guitar tricks you think are annoying. By contrast, hearing the same three chords and the same few blues licks bores me. Am I allowed to have this opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONEZY Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It won't sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Use Your Delusion 1 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Much prefer a remastered AFD tbh, as well as a remastered UYI 1&2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquor & Whores Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I'd love to hear AFD '99 because this is awesome it should be available for free download so nobody would say it's for moneybut won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 that clip kind of encapsulates why even if it came out it would hardly make a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRanchDressing Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 People talking about the record sounding "dated". Chinese Democracy sounds dated too. The drum loops on IRS and Prostitute (early 2000s) the industrial edge of Better and Shacklers Revenge (late 90s for that style of industrial) the cheesy piano songs This I Love and Street of Dreams (70s arena rock). See, "dated" doesn't mean anything really you can't update something to current times and have it be "technically" better. It would lose all the feeling, mood, atmosphere of the original. That's something nu-gnr fans don't seem to understand. Just because Ron can run circles around Slash with sweeps and tapping and other annoying guitar tricks doesn't mean he could play Slash's relatively simple stuff better than Slash.I'm not opposed to Axl one day re-recording and re-releasing Chinese Democracy either. I think that could be cool, just like I enjoy seeing remakes of movies and TV shows I like. Or new casts in my favorite plays. I happen to like sweeps, tapping and other guitar tricks you think are annoying. By contrast, hearing the same three chords and the same few blues licks bores me. Am I allowed to have this opinion?Did you ever see that episode of South Park where Steven Spielberg and George Lucas remake the first Indiana Jones movie?Ya. Also, it's fine you like the tapping and all that. I like electronic music, lots of it too. Would I (or pretty much anyone else) want some electro break-beat replacing the bongos on Mr. Brownstone? No. Would I (or pretty much anyone else) want a sweeping and tapping solo instead of the Sweet Child solo? Hell no.No, sadly I mist have missed that episode of South Park. While I'm sure it was hilarious, I'd hate to think that my ability to enjoy music (or Axl's ability to make it) would be limited by an episode of a TV show, even one as good as South Park.I don't like electronic music particularly, but I still wouldn't have a problem with someone performing a version of Mr. Brownstone with these "electro break-beats" of which you speak. I wouldn't have a problem with someone recording it either. It's just music. Save all your life-and-death commandments for more serious matters... like life and death, for example! Just let me and others be free to enjoy whatever we want to -- which, as far as I'm concerned anyways, could even include some finger tapping and sweeping in a version of Sweet Child O' Mine. I know it's blasphemy to suggest that anyone could ever enjoy any other guitar player's version of one of Slash's songs because you think like a cult member. So I'll promise not to force you to listen to them. Deal?It won't sell.I'd buy a copy. That's all I care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artfromtex Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) A masterpiece, which AFD is, shouldn't be re-recorded.Agreed. It's bloody well overdue a decent remastering though.No way. Barry Diament's mastering is superb. It's plenty loud (without clipping) and it was taken right off the master tape. If it were remastered you know they'd compress the shit out of it and turn the levels up until it crackled. No thanks. The original CD is just fine. The MoFi is good too, but there's not much difference. Edited December 28, 2011 by artfromtex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) I'd rather the nu band release their own music, for their own recognition. Not diving further into yesteryear.Outside of the misspelling of new, I completely agree. I want something new, not something that's been on every tour they've had. There's enough good youtube videos of Appetite songs from the new band to show that these guys kick ass at the old songs. Edited December 28, 2011 by Damn_Smooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman007 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I would buy it! I would love to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolRanchDressing Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I would buy it! I would love to hear it.Uh--oh! Expressing that opinion will make you a prime target for the Nostalgia Nazis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I'd like to hear the rerecording from the late 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I have never understood the demand for this 1999 AFD. Axl said that it was used for rehearsal purposes - nothing more. Besides the SCOM '99 thing it will most likely never see the light of day. If you wanted a true representation of the band playing those songs why not just listen to the 01/02 boots? Or even the recent ones, since half the dudes who recorded in '99 aren't even in the band anymoreAnd it would just be insane to focus on releasing this re-recorded Appetite IMO. Not only will it not hold a candle to the original recordings (because c'mon that record is something else) but I would rather GNR focus on new material - which they will, I mean it's very clear that this thing was never intended to be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Maybe he doesn't want to put it out because he knows it's vastly superior to the old, cheesy recordings and doesn't want to diminish the impact of the original recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 If they released one re-recorded song it'd be cool. Not the whole album. And not Sweet Child or Jungle, either. Something less appreciated that could be given a new life. Out Ta Get Me, My Michelle, maybe an Illusion track. How about Don't Damn Me from the 21st century? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I'd rather they covered the Pulp Fiction soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Axl Goes Surfing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevelle Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I'd only ever want to hear it if it "leaked"...officially releasing a rerecorded version of AFD would be the worst thing he could do to his reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 A good bonus track for CDII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaida Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 A good bonus track for CDIIIf Buckethead, Robin, Brain hadn't quit, then they just might have give the re recorded AFD free as a bonus disc / special edition Chinese.I doubt teh current line up have bother to record those tracks. I doubt it will ever happen now. If Axl ever passed away, no doubt record companies would have a field day releasing a ton of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yeah they'd make a ton of money on dead artists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaida Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 I'd rather they covered the Pulp Fiction soundtrack.That is perfect the way it is. I own it on CD. Some classic tracks on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Maybe he doesn't want to put it out because he knows it's vastly superior to the old, cheesy recordings and doesn't want to diminish the impact of the original recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stro Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I think most people would agree it would be interesting to hear, but completely unneeded and unnecessary. I wouldn't see a problem with a handful of tracks with the current band in the same way that Slash has put out GNR/VR songs with Myles singing. That doesn't seem to be a problem for people. But rerecording one of the most popular albums of all time with the new guys seems cheap and petty. Due to the nature of how Axl has been in the past 15 years, I can't ever expect digital EPs or tracks being put out. I think I'd rather hear it with the current guys than Bucket/Robin. I like the current versions of most of the AFD songs more than at any other point. I do miss Bucket's Nightrain solo, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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