tentonneskeleton Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Does anybody else think that Battleground or Iris of the Storm could have made a great album closer.Nope. They're my two least favourite on the album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 The double tracked chorus in 'World on Fire', ''I THINK ITS TIME I...'', is fuckin annoying. Shame as I like the main riff, very Motörheadesque, and the verses have carried me up until that point, but then that big bland shouty chorus comes in and the arsehole falls out. Completely agree mate. If the song had a great chorus, it could have been one of the best on the album. I am heading to their first European gig in Ireland. First time playing in a huge arena in the whole island of Ireland for Slash. SO hope he plays Wicked Stone. If he does not, and then he plays it over in England, I will be extremely pissed off. Feckin English.I want to like this album - I truly do - but it is just, shite. I mean it is better than chin dem but then, if I farted in a can of Tizer, that would produce something more tuneful than cd, but this is just shit; perhaps Slash should reform the Pit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skik08 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) The double tracked chorus in 'World on Fire', ''I THINK ITS TIME I...'', is fuckin annoying. Shame as I like the main riff, very Motörheadesque, and the verses have carried me up until that point, but then that big bland shouty chorus comes in and the arsehole falls out. Completely agree mate. If the song had a great chorus, it could have been one of the best on the album. I am heading to their first European gig in Ireland. First time playing in a huge arena in the whole island of Ireland for Slash. SO hope he plays Wicked Stone. If he does not, and then he plays it over in England, I will be extremely pissed off. Feckin English.I want to like this album - I truly do - but it is just, shite. I mean it is better than chin dem but then, if I farted in a can of Tizer, that would produce something more tuneful than cd, but this is just shit; perhaps Slash should reform the Pit?I wouldn't be that harsh and call it 'shite', compared to most rock albums nowadays. But I completely understand why people who are fans of slash in a gnr or snakepit sense would not like it. This stuff is very, very different. I love it cause it still has great slash riffs and I just love Myles. I think the lyrics in most of the songs are shite, but most 80's rock lyris were. In this album I can tell he is trying to get the attention of modern rockers, yet still pleasing the old fans Edited September 23, 2014 by skik08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 i think the solo for 'battleground' reminds me a bit of 'messages,' which, imo, is still one of the best tunes slash has ever done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 After listening to Fortress by Alter Bridge, WOF seems a bit desperate to fit in. Slash has done a lot of good stuff but he's yet to find his true voice outside of GNR. There's definitely a core but the soul is coming from other places, like Scott or Myles. But yeah you listen to Fortress and it's not confusing, like what is this? it just makes sense. WOF is a bit odd, but still cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naupis Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 i think the solo for 'battleground' reminds me a bit of 'messages,' which, imo, is still one of the best tunes slash has ever done.Had the exact same thought when I heard it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 After listening to Fortress by Alter Bridge, WOF seems a bit desperate to fit in. Slash has done a lot of good stuff but he's yet to find his true voice outside of GNR. There's definitely a core but the soul is coming from other places, like Scott or Myles. But yeah you listen to Fortress and it's not confusing, like what is this? it just makes sense. WOF is a bit odd, but still cool. The "like what is this?" thing is caused by the way this album was constructed. You know... Slash sending out ideas to Myles and how the whole band bends to fit Slash's influences and ideas. His guitar is the lead singer. Myles is trying to be himself when he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 i think the solo for 'battleground' reminds me a bit of 'messages,' which, imo, is still one of the best tunes slash has ever done.Just listened to Messages for the first time ever. Terrible song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) i think the solo for 'battleground' reminds me a bit of 'messages,' which, imo, is still one of the best tunes slash has ever done.Just listened to Messages for the first time ever. Terrible song. Really the first time? Edited September 24, 2014 by Gibbo 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 i think the solo for 'battleground' reminds me a bit of 'messages,' which, imo, is still one of the best tunes slash has ever done.Just listened to Messages for the first time ever. Terrible song. Dafuq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Totally subjective, but for me WOF > Fortress though hard to compare as they are 2 very different records. And I just prefer Slash's playing over Tremonti's.It's the diversity of WOF over 17 tracks that makes it for me and keeps the record from sounding "too long". Edited September 24, 2014 by Turn_It_Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 i think the solo for 'battleground' reminds me a bit of 'messages,' which, imo, is still one of the best tunes slash has ever done.The best thing about Battleground is probably the solo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Totally subjective, but for me WOF > Fortress though hard to compare as they are 2 very different records. And I just prefer Slash's playing over Tremonti's.I can appreciate Tremonti as a player, but nothing he does really grabs you, AB is all about Myles' vocals and his solos are really the more memorable ones in that band. Tremonti always seemed too "metal" for me, but it's not that I don't enjoy metal playing, I love Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Randy Rhoads, but Tremonti seems very much "I learned metal from a book" kind of player, very stiff, very square. Compared to how a guy like Dimebag Darrell did metal, which is all about spontaneity and playing for the moment, Tremonti's brand of heavy doesn't always do it for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn_It_Up Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) SLASH: 'World On Fire' First-Week Chart Positions Revealed"World On Fire", the third album to be made available under the Slash solo banner, sold around 29,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release to land at position No. 10 on The Billboard 200 chart. The CD arrived in stores on September 16 via Slash's own label Dik Hayd International distributed through Roadrunner Records (Europe, Middle East, Africa and Latin America)."World On Fire" first-week chart positions:Switzerland: #1Australia: #2Germany: #2 Ireland: #2 Japan: #3 Finland: #3Austria: #5UK: #7 USA: #10"World On Fire" is the second album to feature Slash's regular backing band, MYLES KENNEDY & THE CONSPIRATORS, and follows up 2012's "Apocalyptic Love", which sold around 38,000 copies in the United States in its first week of release to land at position No. 4 on The Billboard 200 chart.Slash's self-titled debut album scored the highest new entry on The Billboard 200 chart in April 2010, with first-week U.S. sales of around 60,000 copies.Although the "World On Fire" album title sounds like a political or social statement, Slash told The Pulse Of Radio it wasn't meant that way at first. "There's no social commentary originally about the album title," he said. "It was a song on the record basically about sex. But when I started looking for an album title, something about that title stuck out to me. I think it was because a lot of stuff has been going on — the whole thing with the Malaysian flight, and Israel, and all the stuff going on with Russia at the time. So 'World On Fire' all of a sudden had a much broader connotation."On Slash self-titled solo effort he employed a different vocalist on each track, before settling on ALTER BRIDGE member Kennedy for both touring and eventually recording."Apocalyptic Love" earned Slash his two first-ever No. 1 U.S. rock radio hits with "You're A Lie" and "Standing In The Sun".The former GUNS N' ROSES member and Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame inductee just wrapped up a summer tour with AEROSMITH and is now playing three shows in West Hollywood before heading out to Europe.The shows are taking place at three legendary Hollywood music venues: the Troubadour on September 23, the Roxy on September 25 and the Whisky on September 26.As previously reported, Slash has composed an original score for Clowns 3D, a new maze that will be featured as part of Universal Studios Hollywood's annual "Halloween Horror Nights" attraction. The maze and score will premiere on September 19 and run through the Halloween season.http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/slash-world-on-fire-first-week-chart-positions-revealed/Wow, in the comments section, even James Brown chimes in. Totally subjective, but for me WOF > Fortress though hard to compare as they are 2 very different records. And I just prefer Slash's playing over Tremonti's.I can appreciate Tremonti as a player, but nothing he does really grabs you, AB is all about Myles' vocals and his solos are really the more memorable ones in that band. Tremonti always seemed too "metal" for me, but it's not that I don't enjoy metal playing, I love Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Randy Rhoads, but Tremonti seems very much "I learned metal from a book" kind of player, very stiff, very square. Compared to how a guy like Dimebag Darrell did metal, which is all about spontaneity and playing for the moment, Tremonti's brand of heavy doesn't always do it for me.Man, you totally nailed it. Couldn't agree more. Edited September 24, 2014 by Turn_It_Up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tentonneskeleton Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 i think the solo for 'battleground' reminds me a bit of 'messages,' which, imo, is still one of the best tunes slash has ever done.Just listened to Messages for the first time ever. Terrible song. I am slightly offended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 If you could change the running order of the album what would you change and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Broue Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) If you could change the running order of the album what would you change and why?erase 3-4 trackscuz this is not UYI and 17 tracks on a solo album is too much Edited September 24, 2014 by Motivation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 If you could change the running order of the album what would you change and why?erase 3-4 trackscuz this is not UYI and 17 tracks on a solo album is too much Which tracks would you get rid of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Totally subjective, but for me WOF > Fortress though hard to compare as they are 2 very different records. And I just prefer Slash's playing over Tremonti's.I can appreciate Tremonti as a player, but nothing he does really grabs you, AB is all about Myles' vocals and his solos are really the more memorable ones in that band. Tremonti always seemed too "metal" for me, but it's not that I don't enjoy metal playing, I love Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Randy Rhoads, but Tremonti seems very much "I learned metal from a book" kind of player, very stiff, very square. Compared to how a guy like Dimebag Darrell did metal, which is all about spontaneity and playing for the moment, Tremonti's brand of heavy doesn't always do it for me.But he is the driving force of Alter Bridge. And you like them I think. He is stiff as shit. By the book electric guitar player, but he's good enough to pull that shit anyway. Dime is all feel motherfucker. Technique and feel, but he's like you said, but he's a rare talent so it's not a good example anyway.Tremonti is metal at heart, he loves that shit and you can tell. But it's not like he can't express to you what he feels with the guitar so I'll take it. Myles is a lucky fuck to be working with 2 guitar players on that caliber. Slash is far superior as the whole package, but Tremonti is no joke either. Edited September 24, 2014 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Totally subjective, but for me WOF > Fortress though hard to compare as they are 2 very different records. And I just prefer Slash's playing over Tremonti's.I can appreciate Tremonti as a player, but nothing he does really grabs you, AB is all about Myles' vocals and his solos are really the more memorable ones in that band. Tremonti always seemed too "metal" for me, but it's not that I don't enjoy metal playing, I love Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Randy Rhoads, but Tremonti seems very much "I learned metal from a book" kind of player, very stiff, very square. Compared to how a guy like Dimebag Darrell did metal, which is all about spontaneity and playing for the moment, Tremonti's brand of heavy doesn't always do it for me.But he is the driving force of Alter Bridge. And you like them I think. He is stiff as shit. By the book electric guitar player, but he's good enough to pull that shit anyway. Dime is all feel motherfucker. Technique and feel, but he's like you said, but he's a rare talent so it's not a good example anyway.Tremonti is metal at heart, he loves that shit and you can tell. But it's not like he can't express to you what he feels with the guitar so I'll take it. Myles is a lucky fuck to be working with 2 guitar players on that caliber. Slash is far superior as the whole package, but Tremonti is no joke either.Yeah absolutely, I would never take away from Tremonti as a player. The dude has chops for days, but I used Dimebag as an example because he does all the things that speak to me as a player and a metal fan, that Tremonti just doesn't do. I think Tremonti even recognizes that Myles can get to places playing-wise that are just foreign to him, which is why he encouraged him to take a bigger role in the guitar department after the first AB album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Nosaj, I am disappoint. "Messages" is such a beautiful song to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Totally subjective, but for me WOF > Fortress though hard to compare as they are 2 very different records. And I just prefer Slash's playing over Tremonti's.I can appreciate Tremonti as a player, but nothing he does really grabs you, AB is all about Myles' vocals and his solos are really the more memorable ones in that band. Tremonti always seemed too "metal" for me, but it's not that I don't enjoy metal playing, I love Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Randy Rhoads, but Tremonti seems very much "I learned metal from a book" kind of player, very stiff, very square. Compared to how a guy like Dimebag Darrell did metal, which is all about spontaneity and playing for the moment, Tremonti's brand of heavy doesn't always do it for me.But he is the driving force of Alter Bridge. And you like them I think. He is stiff as shit. By the book electric guitar player, but he's good enough to pull that shit anyway. Dime is all feel motherfucker. Technique and feel, but he's like you said, but he's a rare talent so it's not a good example anyway.Tremonti is metal at heart, he loves that shit and you can tell. But it's not like he can't express to you what he feels with the guitar so I'll take it. Myles is a lucky fuck to be working with 2 guitar players on that caliber. Slash is far superior as the whole package, but Tremonti is no joke either.Yeah absolutely, I would never take away from Tremonti as a player. The dude has chops for days, but I used Dimebag as an example because he does all the things that speak to me as a player and a metal fan, that Tremonti just doesn't do. I think Tremonti even recognizes that Myles can get to places playing-wise that are just foreign to him, which is why he encouraged him to take a bigger role in the guitar department after the first AB album.Yea. Nosaj, I am disappoint. "Messages" is such a beautiful song to me.Haha Nosaj is just being honest. I love Messages. Slash taps into that Estranged vibe. Slash can tap that shit sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Totally subjective, but for me WOF > Fortress though hard to compare as they are 2 very different records. And I just prefer Slash's playing over Tremonti's.I can appreciate Tremonti as a player, but nothing he does really grabs you, AB is all about Myles' vocals and his solos are really the more memorable ones in that band. Tremonti always seemed too "metal" for me, but it's not that I don't enjoy metal playing, I love Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Randy Rhoads, but Tremonti seems very much "I learned metal from a book" kind of player, very stiff, very square. Compared to how a guy like Dimebag Darrell did metal, which is all about spontaneity and playing for the moment, Tremonti's brand of heavy doesn't always do it for me.But he is the driving force of Alter Bridge. And you like them I think. He is stiff as shit. By the book electric guitar player, but he's good enough to pull that shit anyway. Dime is all feel motherfucker. Technique and feel, but he's like you said, but he's a rare talent so it's not a good example anyway.Tremonti is metal at heart, he loves that shit and you can tell. But it's not like he can't express to you what he feels with the guitar so I'll take it. Myles is a lucky fuck to be working with 2 guitar players on that caliber. Slash is far superior as the whole package, but Tremonti is no joke either.Yeah absolutely, I would never take away from Tremonti as a player. The dude has chops for days, but I used Dimebag as an example because he does all the things that speak to me as a player and a metal fan, that Tremonti just doesn't do. I think Tremonti even recognizes that Myles can get to places playing-wise that are just foreign to him, which is why he encouraged him to take a bigger role in the guitar department after the first AB album.AB is great live and I think you're selling Tremonti a little short. And just think, Myles could be playing with Slash, Tremonti, and Jimmy Paige. If you saw the Eddie Trunck interview with Tremonti and Myles, Myles tells the story of getting to sing the Rain Song with Paige, Jones, and Bonham's son. Of course, the rain song being one of my all time favorites from zep I would love to hear that rarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Somebody has to get a hold of those rehearsals of Myles with Zep if they were recorded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted September 24, 2014 Author Share Posted September 24, 2014 Such a god damn shame a Kennedy/Page/Jones/Bonham tour didn't happen. For fuck's sake I got up at like 8 am every day in 08 hoping and praying for an announcement.Ah well, at least I have seen Plant, Page, and Bonzo Jr before. Still have to see Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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