tberrie007 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I am a fan of the new band, seen them live and am a fan of CD. When all this chatter of will he/ wont he stay in GnR i am on the side of "i hope he stays"...talented, great personality etc etc... HOWEVER, after spending a few nights on youtube this week watching some recent shows i have to say that his tone just misses the mark for me.Specifically, parts like the WTTJ and Estranged solos just don't have the same color to them when he plays them. They are note for note..he does a great job playing them and really getting into his parts but its missing that "something"...and i don't mean its missing Slash... am i alone in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Bumblefoot's tone is awful. Too flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Nope, I completely agree with you. I have no problem with digital effects, love technology and would kill for a setup like BBF's. When he's covering Slash's parts though, it simply doesn't sound good.Not only Ron, but Richard's solo on NR, for example, has always sounded weird. As for DJ, I just can't blame the gear...Robin and Bucket, on the other hand, did a great job adapting their equipment to the GNR sound, adding their own characteristics here and there, of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Yeah, I'm a Bumble fan and I don't like his tone. I like his wide bends, and his vibrato is great imo. HORRID tone though.Richard has a shitty tone as well. And I don't like his bends. He does this annoying as shit thing where he doesn't bend it right away to the target note. I hate it. But I like his guitar playing anyway. A great guitar player.Robin's tone is awesome. In Guns, it was sharp as fuck, piercing through whatever the fuck. Tons of emotion. Just badass.Bucket's tone and bends are fuckin' perfect. There is nothing wrong with his tone imo. Some will dislike just how clean it is, but it's so good, I don't care. Edited August 29, 2014 by Rovim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSoftie Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I think they each have different tones so that their playing stands out from one another but Bumbles tone in GNR usually isn't fantastic... Still, better than Ashba's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashisGOD Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 That's what you get when you use shit like Line6 or whatever the fuck processing he uses. Give me a fuckin Marshall JCM800, Marshall stack, and a Les Paul any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yep his biggest down full for sure. Just about sounds as shitty as Axl voice theses days. I suck pee pee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Best guitar player, but bucket had the best tone with Slash and Izzy of course.I think Bumble needs some balls on his tone, it's too lightly. He can be a pretty wild guitar player if he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yeah I am not a huge fan of that digital sound, however I do like the actual stuff he plays though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 SlashAwesome. BucketheadSweet. BumblefootUtterly awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 You mean bumblefoot that dude who used to be a guitarist in GnR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuneo77 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 i was concerned that on the blurry that he didn intereact much with the other guys,dj in particular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 BBF sounds better than Slash did on Estranged. Hands down! Opinion, not fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 BBF sounds better than Slash did on Estranged. Hands down! Opinion, not fact...lol yeah right listen too Rio 2011 his guitar sounds like it's from the $2 shop Slash can play it better pissed and on drugs the bumble ever will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Slash wrote Estranged solos and guitar melodies. Bumblefoot does a great job covering Slash's material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War2k14 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Ever since they all went digital smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klay Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) SlashBumblefoot Utterly awful. Bumble's tone on that one has q-zone pedal or a wah pedal kicked in at a fixed position, that's why it sounds like that.Best tone I've ever heard was Slash's live tone from 1989 till middle 2000s, in particular on the UYI tour. It was courtesy of the best Marshall ever produced, the Silver Jubilee that marked 25 years of Marshall amps and latter in 1995 was reissued as Marshall JCM Slash, altough it was the same amp.Slash doesn't uses it anymore, that's why he doesn't sounds as good as he used to in my opinion (talking about the tone, not the playing). Edited August 29, 2014 by Klay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakDown2014 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Bumblefoot's tone is awful and his songwriting skills don't match (imo) GN'R. I hope he doesn't mess the CD 2 songs like he did on CD. I love his solo stuff though, and live he does a great job playing Bucket's solos wich is something really impressive to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Bumble's tone on that one has q-zone pedal or a wah pedal kicked in at a fixed position, that's why it sounds like that. Is he using the same here? He sounds utterly awful in that video too. Terrible tone. Best tone I've ever heard was Slash's live tone from 1989 till middle 2000s, in particular on the UYI tour. It was courtesy of the best Marshall ever produced, the Silver Jubilee that marked 25 years of Marshall amps and latter in 1995 was reissued as Marshall JCM Slash, altough it was the same amp. Slash doesn't uses it anymore, that's why he doesn't sounds as good as he used to in my opinion (talking about the tone, not the playing). Yep, in my opinion, best tone was Slash's UYI tone during the UYI tour, followed by AFD. And yes, his current tone is flat, and it sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klay Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Bumble's tone on that one has q-zone pedal or a wah pedal kicked in at a fixed position, that's why it sounds like that.Is he using the same here? He sounds utterly awful in that video too. Terrible tone.No, I don't think so; his tone here is cool.On the other video the tone is quacky, clearly a wah kicked in at a fixed position or a q-zone pedal which does the same effect.Here's a rig rundown of Bumble's gear: Bumble seems to be a nice guy, down to earth, got to respect that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 His tone has always seemed way too clean and clinical for me but hey he plays them very well and it all meshes together well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Slash wrote Estranged solos and guitar melodies. Bumblefoot does a great job covering Slash's material.Holy fuck really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Slash wrote Estranged solos and guitar melodies. Bumblefoot does a great job covering Slash's material.Holy fuck really?Believe me, sometimes people forget (or pretend to forget) this fact.Ron will never play it perfectly regardless of his technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Ron's cover of Estranged is perfect in terms of playing. The tone could be better but he's got the song itself down to a science and he's had it down since Rio. No 4 year and ongoing learning curve like DJ with TIL (and Patience, and SCOM, etc.) Ron's tone is pretty bad. Honestly I think Finck's tone is the only nugnr tone I can definitely say I've liked. Bucket's playing was phenomenal of course and I'd never ask him to change his tone, but sometimes it did lead to GNR songs not really sounding like GNR songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumble's Bridge Pickup Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 (edited) That's what you get when you use shit like Line6 or whatever the fuck processing he uses. Give me a fuckin Marshall JCM800, Marshall stack, and a Les Paul any day. He's used an ENGL Invader and Marshall cabs since 2009. The only digital thing in his rig is the TC Electronics Nova System, used for solo boosts and whatever little effects he might need. There's a wah in there too.It's a simpler rig than Slash's current setup.Bumble's tone on that one has q-zone pedal or a wah pedal kicked in at a fixed position, that's why it sounds like that.I think he's using both pickups out of phase actually, his guitars are wired like that. It gives you that real nasally Bohemian Rhapsody solo type of sound.If I remember right, I think he discusses guitar electronics here: Edited August 30, 2014 by Bumble's Bridge Pickup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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