GNR Women's Discussion - Part 2

[purplestargirl]

7 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Nope, he carries just an old suitcase....

"one bad mother put a rattlesnake suitcase under my arm"

Now I am curious about the guitar case as well.

 

 

And I'm watching the video right now....looking closely I can make out Izzy's facial features in the beginning as the dealer "harasses" Axl. The way his hair is styled threw me off.

Edited January 6, 2018 by purplestargirl

[purplestargirl]

Also I love the end  of the video where Axl is shaking his head at the TVs and walks off like, "Fuck this shit, I'm outta here." 

[Mararoyce]

49 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Maybe first tell him that you know he directed the videos of WTTJ, SCOM, PC, and Patience and congratulate him for his work. Then that you've always wondering about something in the WTTJ video:  is the guy who plays the dealer in the first shot, when Axl gets out of the bus, Izzy Stradlin? I'm not sure if you could also mention that there has been dispute among the fans about it

I sent a message to Izzy & Nigel Dick. Let's see if they respond.

[Gabrielaerojas]

15 minutes ago, killuridols said:

@nigeldick hello! I have a question about #GNR's WTTJ video: is Izzy Stradlin the person who plays the role of drug dealer at the very beginning of it? Thank you!

Ok, here it goes...

Tweeted. Fingers crossed. If TB comes knocking at my door in the middle of the night and take me away and throw me in a hole... ok, i’m too paranoid...

 

Edited January 6, 2018 by Gabrielaerojas

[killuridols]

Ok, now I'll go hide under a rock!

[purplestargirl]

4 minutes ago, Mararoyce said:

I sent a message to Izzy & Nigel Dick. Let's see if they respond.

Izzy never responds to tweets. Nigel seems like he would be your best bet.

[killuridols]

And we are all so dumb...... should have also asked about the girl on fishnet ...... is she Michelle Young?

[Gabrielaerojas]

HERE’S YOUR ANSWER!!!!  @killuridols @Blackstar @Tori72 @purplestargirl @janrichmond @Fang @Rocketqueen76 

Edited January 6, 2018 by Gabrielaerojas

[Blackstar]

Thank you, @Gabrielaerojas! You're the best!

Another mystery solved in/by the WT

[Georgina Arriaga]

There is some way to know if we will have new music this year? You guys can find anything

[Gabrielaerojas]

8 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Thank you, @Gabrielaerojas! You're the best!

Another mystery solved in/by the WT

Anytime! Do I need to go under the witness protection program now? Is TB going to come after me in the middle of the night for uncovering the missing link? 

Edited January 6, 2018 by Gabrielaerojas

[Gabrielaerojas]

5 minutes ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

There is some way to know if we will have new music this year? You guys can find anything

How about them lottery numbers? #JustSaying  

Say... I need to dig up some dirt on a co worker of mine... 

Edited January 6, 2018 by Gabrielaerojas

[purplestargirl]

34 minutes ago, Gabrielaerojas said:

Anytime! Do I need to go under the witness protection program now? Is TB going to come after me in the middle of the night for uncovering the missing link? 

Thanks!

That video was made before TB's time so I wouldn't worry. 

[Tori72]

Awesome! Thank you @Gabrielaerojas.

i knew it was method acting  

The Wonen‘s Thread rules!!! 

[Lio]

Thanks @Gabrielaerojas! It's great to learn new things after 30 years .

 

[MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle]

@Gabrielaerojas Well done!  I love how sometimes the most puzzling of mysteries is solved in the simplest of ways.  Just ask someone on twitter.   WT really is a treasure trove of knowledge on all things GNR.  If Axl wants to turn that 40k document of his into an actual autobiography, he should definitely come here for some of the facts. ^^  WT can act as his consultant. 

[purplestargirl]

53 minutes ago, MyPrettyTiedUpMichelle said:

@Gabrielaerojas Well done!  I love how sometimes the most puzzling of mysteries is solved in the simplest of ways.  Just ask someone on twitter.   WT really is a treasure trove of knowledge on all things GNR.  If Axl wants to turn that 40k document of his into an actual autobiography, he should definitely come here for some of the facts. ^^  WT can act as his consultant. 

I honestly think Axl would be disturbed by all the Slaxl in this thread if he came here.

[Tori72]

 

[purplestargirl]

4 minutes ago, Tori72 said:

 

Hehe. Of course, Izzy.

I did know it was Izzy who was the dealer after I got curious one day and researched it. He doesn't look like he normally does with his long hair and the newsboy cap and that throws me off every time I watch the video.

[sidman69]

14 hours ago, Rocketqueen76 said:

I like this idea...maybe Geoff should chime in too.

 

15 hours ago, Tori72 said:

Thank you, Sidman. That's awesome. Until then Women's Thread waits with anticipation. 

 

well ladies, I maybe able to settle this age old question of whether it was definitely izzy as I have an interview lined up with someone close to the band who should probably know the answer. Stay tuned!

[Zoot]

51 minutes ago, sidman69 said:

 

well ladies, I maybe able to settle this age old question of whether it was definitely izzy as I have an interview lined up with someone close to the band who should probably know the answer. Stay tuned!

We already have the answer. Thanks though.

[Tori72]

1 hour ago, sidman69 said:

 

well ladies, I maybe able to settle this age old question of whether it was definitely izzy as I have an interview lined up with someone close to the band who should probably know the answer. Stay tuned!

We know the answer from Nigel Dick already. But thanks anyway. Please make sure to ask your next guest to tell us some Izzy stories, ok? 

[Tori72]

I checked Nigel Dick's website http://www.nigeldick.com and there are not only the vevo-Videos of all the stuff he did, including Sweet Child o Mine and Welcome but also the "treatments" to the videos.

 

Quote

This page contains treatments
for videos you might have seen. 

A treatment is…
a) a sales pitch to the artist and the label and
b) (if it’s accepted) a script for the video you are about to make.

 

I have purposefully not edited the treatments so that you can see my shameless sales technique at work, some interesting gaffes, and also try and spot the difference between the treatment and the final video!

 

Watch his writing of Axl's name and how he explains it under the text.  He also points out that "Axel" wanted to have shots of Manson on the TV he watches in the hotel room (in the video). So there was a fascination there and there is no way that he didn't know who was on his stupid tshirts during the uyi tour...

 

GUNS N’ ROSES – Welcome To The Jungle

df #171
written 7/10/87

GUNS N’ ROSES will perform the number onstage at the Whiskey. We will shoot the band’s close-ups during the day and then let in a regular audience that evening and shoot them during their live show. They will play the song perhaps two or three times during the show. There will probably be a need for some exctra lighting for the stage show in addition to what they have at the Whiskey but we are not talking about massive lighting rigs etc.We would like to have access to a small crane.

THE CONCEPT: (To be intercut with performance):

PART ONE
Axel (the lead singer) steps off a Greyhound bus in Hollywood at night. He has just arrived in town complete with case and guitar. (To be shot on lacation day 2).

PART TWO
Axel walks up to a Television store and looks into the window. (Night ext. day 2).

PART THREE
Axel’s POV of the television store window. There are a number of TV sets all showing various scenes of violence, civil unrest, contemporary advertising etc. These pieces of footage would need to be obtained from a library. The TV ads could be anything from the last 5 years but does not need to show package shots or product names. All the TV sets should be different. I would suggest we build this window on a set. (To be shot in a studio day 2).

PART FOUR
Axel is in a seedy hotel bedroom with a girl. They are watching a number of TV sets. Once again the screens are filled with violent images. Amongst these images we must include Manson, the Nightstalker and other ‘key’ figures. I would suggest that this room is built on a set. (To be shot in a studio day 2).

PART FIVE
Axel is now strapped into a large chair in a clinical room. He wears a straight jacket and a head brace. He is forced to watch a bank of modern high tech TV monitors. (These are not the monitors we have seen previously). Once again the images on the screen are of violence. Eventually Axel screams, terrified. I would suggest that this room is built on a set. (To be shot in a studio day 2).

PART SIX
Reprise of Part Three. We see Axel’s screaming face on all the Tv screens in the shop window. (NB this is the first time that the TV screens having been showing the same image as each other).

PART SEVEN
Reprise of Part Two. Axel is standing in front of the window of the TV store. He sees himself screaming on the TV’s, shrugs his shoulders and walks away.

THE END.

I guess I didn’t know how to spell Axl’s name properly – I hadn’t met the band when I wrote this. The treatment was basically handed to me by Alan Niven over the phone and I put it in order and I typed it out, which is the way Alan and I would work, I guess that’s why I typed the phrase ‘key’ figures the way I did. It’s interesting to note Axl’s early fascination with Manson even before the release of the first album.

 

There also is Sweet Child

GUNS N’ ROSES – Sweet Child O’ Mine

dickfilm #185
written 4/7/88

GUNS N’ ROSES will be shot in the Ballroom location in Huntington Park. The band’s gear will be set up in the centre of the room as if in rehearsal. They are surrounded by their equipment, cabinets, road cases etc. They are lit dramatically with Xenons, but ambient light from this lighting spills into other parts of the room.

The band perform the song and we will shoot them from every conceivable angle using two cameras. We will adopt a semi-documentary approach in that we will make no attempt whatsoever to hide the crew from the camera. Very often one camera will see the other, members of the crew and other hangers-on will be seen in the background. However our focus is very definitely on the band and each set-up will be used to show the band in performance at their very best. Despite the documentary approach we will still take great care with lighting at all times.

In addition to the two camera set-up we will have two Bolex cameras on call and will have copious amounts of stock available so that we can capture informal and light-hearted moments during the shoot with the band. This Bolex footage will be transformed to tape in Black and White. It will be grainy! It will be fun!

We will add some props to the Ballroom to enhance its current seedy, rundown look. We will place lots of old chairs around and add to the atmosphere that already exists there. We will create a couple of dressing room areas with lights so that we can shoot some of the Bolex footage there too.

The end result will be that we will have loads of footage of GUNS N’ ROSES both in performance and relaxing that we can cut together to create an exciting video that will capture the essence and character that is GUNS N’ ROSES.

© Guns N’ Roses / Alan Niven / Nigel Dick 1988

Those were the days – 5 short paragraphs. Wish it were that easy now.

[janrichmond]

 @killuridols

Edited January 6, 2018 by janrichmond

[Tori72]

1 minute ago, janrichmond said:

Now I'm fucking jealous!!!!!!!!