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3 hours ago, Padme said:

She seems to be a new member of the bunch. She says she's been there for the last 3 months. And Beta for once has been nice

I think that Beta post was for damage control , about all fuss that Fernando silly post caused between fans, seems she is more smart that Fernando is.

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23 minutes ago, Ratam said:

I think that Beta post was for damage control , about all fuss that Fernando silly post caused between fans, seems she is more smart that Fernando is.

The post to Dani? That's from December 10th. But yeah, beta is much smarter than her son. 

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12 minutes ago, Ratam said:

I think that Beta post was for damage control , about all fuss that Fernando silly post caused between fans, seems she is more smart that Fernando is.

Well I did some checking. Dani Tieber is not directly involved. She works for TAG company. They are events organizers/planers. She is a Senior Tour Specialist. She makes sure that everything is ready when the band and crew arrive at a given city. She arrives to places ahead of them. The company has a blog. She did a little interview talking about their show in Abu Dhabi. And how they spent Thanksgiving together. She organized the dinner for them and their staff members. Her company works with VIP people and high level events.

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1 hour ago, Padme said:

Well I did some checking. Dani Tieber is not directly involved. She works for TAG company. They are events organizers/planers. She is a Senior Tour Specialist. She makes sure that everything is ready when the band and crew arrive at a given city. She arrives to places ahead of them. The company has a blog. She did a little interview talking about their show in Abu Dhabi. And how they spent Thanksgiving together. She organized the dinner for them and their staff members. Her company works with VIP people and high level events.

Thanks , many people working with them !!

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Some interesting shit out of this recent 'AFD Podcast' interviewee Dave Dominguez, former engineer of album 'Chinese Democracy'... :monkey:

 

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What was it like working with Axl?

"I'm sure you've heard the famous stories of Axl just being out of control, and being rude, yelling. I never really got any of that personally. He always treated me great and treated my family great, and he was always awesome.

"The only time he ever did really get upset with me was during one session - at the end of the song 'This I Love' he had said he was repeating the Stephanie scene one, like 'I love you, Stephanie,' or, 'This I love Stephanie.'

"And he heard it and goes, 'Just erase all that.' I was like, 'Do you want me to back it up?'. He was, 'No, erase it!'. He yelled and walked out of the room.
The assistant comes in, and I said, 'We're going to erase something GN'R fans are never ever going to hear. This is crazy, this is a GN'R song that no one's ever heard, and no one is ever going to hear this again.'
I looked at him and said, 'Are you ready?'. And I put the tracks in and erased it."

W00t? :question:

I don't understand what he means by "he had said he was repeating the Stephanie scene one (...)"......... is he talking about a recorded song or a music video?
That line makes no sense to me!

Also.... why to erase a whole song when they could have just removed that sort of ad lib and just leave the rest of the song?

After all, the cringy lyrics are still there and I don't know if they are the original lyrics and music, but they still are a lament about past love.... so why get mad about it? lol :jerkoff:

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During those sessions, did Axl have a really good idea of what he wanted the album to sound like? Or was it just people throw out ideas and then they share the CDs?

"He was listening to a lot of Nine Inch Nails at the time, a lot of industrial stuff, so I remember that vibe, that was what he was going for."

 

Does anyone know what year they are talking about? Because I remember long discussions here arguing about Axl's musical direction and vision for CD and when many of us said that some songs reminded us of NIN, some people got their panties in a bunch, like it was a sin to compare his music to NIN.

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Source: Ultimate-Guitar.com

 

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36 minutes ago, killuridols said:

Some interesting shit out of this recent 'AFD Podcast' interviewee Dave Dominguez, former engineer of album 'Chinese Democracy'... :monkey:

 

W00t? :question:

I don't understand what he means by "he had said he was repeating the Stephanie scene one (...)"......... is he talking about a recorded song or a music video?
That line makes no sense to me!

Also.... why to erase a whole song when they could have just removed that sort of ad lib and just leave the rest of the song?

After all, the cringy lyrics are still there and I don't know if they are the original lyrics and music, but they still are a lament about past love.... so why get mad about it? lol :jerkoff:

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Does anyone know what year they are talking about? Because I remember long discussions here arguing about Axl's musical direction and vision for CD and when many of us said that some songs reminded us of NIN, some people got their panties in a bunch, like it was a sin to compare his music to NIN.

LOL

Source: Ultimate-Guitar.com

 

For how long has this guy worked on CD? Let's keep in mind we heard a couple of songs in RIR 2001. CD came out in 2008, a lot of water under the bridge. In the early 90s Axl was listening Nine Inch Nails a lot. That was one of reasons Robin Finck was hired. He wanted to go in that direction. We don't know what kind of music he was listening in 2004 or 2006.

The whole Stephanie breakdown, kinds sounds TIL was recorded in the mid or late 90s. However he wrote and recorded the song in Paris 92. How many times the song was recorded? There were different band members, producers, engineers. Most likely every single song in the album was recorded several times. It is normal for any artist to record a song. Then listen to it and then get rid of it because the artist in question doesn't find the recording good enough. I seem to remember Axl said in an interview he didn't want TIL in the album. But Robin Finck presuaded him to add it. But I'm not 100% sure I'm geting this right.

 

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20 hours ago, Padme said:

For how long has this guy worked on CD? Let's keep in mind we heard a couple of songs in RIR 2001. CD came out in 2008, a lot of water under the bridge. In the early 90s Axl was listening Nine Inch Nails a lot. That was one of reasons Robin Finck was hired. He wanted to go in that direction. We don't know what kind of music he was listening in 2004 or 2006.

I dont know. I have not listened to the podcast but from what he says, I assume it is the late 90's or early 2000's..... :shrugs:

Even if CD was out in 2008, most of those songs were written in the mid-late 90's...... impossible to tell if the original versions remained but some of them do sound like NIN.

20 hours ago, Padme said:

The whole Stephanie breakdown, kinds sounds TIL was recorded in the mid or late 90s. However he wrote and recorded the song in Paris 92. How many times the song was recorded? There were different band members, producers, engineers. Most likely every single song in the album was recorded several times. It is normal for any artist to record a song. Then listen to it and then get rid of it because the artist in question doesn't find the recording good enough. I seem to remember Axl said in an interview he didn't want TIL in the album. But Robin Finck presuaded him to add it. But I'm not 100% sure I'm geting this right.

Yes, he said Robin Finck convinced him to add TIL to the album.....

I would like to know how the original TIL sounded and what were the lyrics but now it makes sense to me when Slash talked about the "Stephanie Seymour ballads" and that he wasn't into that anymore.

He was probably right and Axl got mad..... just to have it erased and not want it, a few years later :rolleyes:

It turned out to be a horrible song, no matter what....

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8 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

If axl wanted to focus on stephanie lyrics he should have just recorded those sort of songs under an AXL solo record rather than under the GNR name.

After 1993, it would have been healthier to just let it go and accept her decision to break up.

Songs, lyrics and other laments only made him look like an immature man unable to get over a breakup.

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Sounds like Axl was recording TIL, got flashback in studio & got melted, didn't want it in record, he insisted on removing it, still intensely emotional. It's the way you milk the emotion out of performance - you connect it to some intense emotion you went through. Sharp edge, but it's the way finest art is done. I understand Axl didn't want to be this personal and vulnerable on eventual official studio release. As far as being intense is Axl's default mode, from outside view that moment must have been memorable pure magic.

I love TIL live because of the intense emotion it carries.

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I haven't really been following this thread and I guess this has been talked to death already, but what do you think Axl meant by this:

"The person I wrote that song for said "thank you for the gift of your soul". Well, it took a while but I got that fucker back." [Copenhagen, Denmark, June 27, 2017]

He said it after performing TIL. What do you think Axl meant by getting Stephanie back? Surely they're not back together, but they're on good terms again I guess?

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3 minutes ago, Lies They Tell said:

I haven't really been following this thread and I guess this has been talked to death already, but what do you think Axl meant by this:

"The person I wrote that song for said "thank you for the gift of your soul". Well, it took a while but I got that fucker back." [Copenhagen, Denmark, June 27, 2017]

He said it after performing TIL. What do you think Axl meant by getting Stephanie back? Surely they're not back together, but they're on good terms again I guess?

 I never heard about this quote. Does it exist any video of it? 

Wouldn’t he be refering, in his Axl’s way of talking, that he’s gotten his ‘soul’ back? 

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22 minutes ago, Lio said:

Getting his soul back, not Stephanie. That's how I understood it.

As far as I know, last time Stephanie mentioned Axl, it was rolling her eyes and calling it a mistake when NR came on during an interview.

I guess he meant to say he got his soul back. Meaning he put it all behind him and moved on. However he didn't have a real meaningfull relationship again.

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Am I the only one who doesn't think Axl's talking about getting his own soul back? I mean if Stephanie Seymour thanked Axl for making that song, doesn't it sound like they've kinda patched up and isn't it more likely that Axl's talking about that? They're in good terms again and that's what Axl meant when he said he got her back. I don't know, it just sounds weird and far fetched to me that he'd be talking about getting his own soul back, but I could be wrong.

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6 hours ago, Lies They Tell said:

"The person I wrote that song for said "thank you for the gift of your soul". Well, it took a while but I got that fucker back."

It might have happened in the beginning of the relationship. Axl loved her madly, after all. So it might be a metaphor for getting over it. Just go through his photos of last 10 or so years, his vibe got far more intense and having-stuff-together at least since he has his old bandmates back. 

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Meh... You're not giving your soul to anyone like it was a thing, on the first place:facepalm: People can get over situations far more difficult and painful than a breakup...This kind of obsessions have nothing to do with the person who left you and there's always unresolved,underlying personal emotional package...Nobody belongs to no one, and as long as the other part have chosen someone else over you, for whatever reasons, it can take time and drama but in the end you must grow from it... Take your lesson, grow stronger,lift yourself up... When people are unable to learn from their mistakes, then, yeah, you get stuck in the mud for your whole life... But Axl can have a dozen of specialists around him anytime...Given that he's intelligent,ugh, ok, this is nothing but ego..."Buaaa,mommy i want this red balloon,but i waaann' iiiit".... Although, it's true that we can't get over some certain people,cause of the illusion we've created over them,not people themselves....Btw, i think that the"got this fucker back" thing has a little to nothing to do with Stephanie, and is more of a refreshed state of mind towards band's reunion, be in the highlight again,get Slash back as a friend, bandmate,whatever,why not?Often things are so confused and tangled in life, but more in our heads that we can't tell them apart.... Positive thing is that at least Axl looks cool,happy, smiley,melted down  and as for his personal life, i think that he's doing ok, but doesn't want publicity, to whatever is goin'on...And why should he?:shrugs:It's not 90's anymore and most people couldn't care less about the "next episode of ongoing telenovelas".... I can recall  Axl's personal life making highlights back then, and Johnny Depp's ,for example, as well,not to mention that it was a certain column of a girliish maganize i used to read, in which Axl-Stephanie/Johnny-Winona among others was an expected next episode:lol: But times've dramatically changed, sames goes for people....

 

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