98izzark Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Obviously Guns' best album, right? Fuck this album, it had so much potential. It feels like they decided to extend it from an EP (hey puns) to a full length album in order to be like "Hey where's still dangerous and badass" and to me it just doesn't sound right. They don't have the "attitude" they should on a punk album, for fuck sake Duff was the most punk out of the five original guys so what's the issue? The same issue everyone had with Chinese (Even tho the title track, Shackler's Revenge and If The World are all fucking amazing). It's not the original line up, to me Sorum just sounds like he's trying to replicate Steven and doesn't succeed, he worked on Illusion but not here. Then Gilby is the key element here that I think makes this album fail. I think if Izzy and Slash had the interplay and intertwining guitar sound they had on Appetite this album would have been the shit but instead it's the forgotten GnR album. When I listen to it all I hear is lost potential to what could of been a great album. The thing I like most about this album is the fucking title because its a cool little nod to Steven Adler. I literally photoshopped the Live Era and Spaghetti cover into each other and use it as Live Era's cover because I find Live Era's cover boring for what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZoSoRose Posted June 29, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 29, 2017 Its funny, I woke up this morning thinking, "I could really go for a new TSI? Fan review!" By golly, did I get it! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98izzark Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: Its funny, I woke up this morning thinking, "I could really go for a new TSI? Fan review!" By golly, did I get it! Maybe you're a prophet ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprite Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I see it as more than a punk cover album. 50s doo-wop to punk to soundgarden to Beatles to Manson, it has it all. It introduced me to a ton of music I probably never would have heard if not. I always loved the drumming on it. Matt's loose as a goose. I wonder what uyi would sound like with that production? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 I like it. Good album. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 44 minutes ago, Sprite said: I see it as more than a punk cover album. 50s doo-wop to punk to soundgarden to Beatles to Manson, it has it all. It introduced me to a ton of music I probably never would have heard if not. I always loved the drumming on it. Matt's loose as a goose. I wonder what uyi would sound like with that production? Beatles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie82 Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Ok. @98izzark Do you feel better now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostalgia^ Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Thread title on point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98izzark Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 20 minutes ago, Nostalgia^ said: Thread title on point! Exactly ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98izzark Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 49 minutes ago, soon said: Beatles? 1 hour ago, Sprite said: I see it as more than a punk cover album. 50s doo-wop to punk to soundgarden to Beatles to Manson, it has it all. It introduced me to a ton of music I probably never would have heard if not. I always loved the drumming on it. Matt's loose as a goose. I wonder what uyi would sound like with that production? I think they mean The Skyliners and yeah that's one of the few songs I think is OK on the album but still not worth being on my phone . 26 minutes ago, Marie82 said: Ok. @98izzark Do you feel better now? Yes, yes I do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprite Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, soon said: Beatles? The end of hair of the dog has the guitar intro of day tripper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Sprite said: The end of hair of the dog has the guitar intro of day tripper. oh, cool. Never noticed that. the main riff was a clear lift of that to begin with so cool they made the reference. thanks! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Sprite said: I see it as more than a punk cover album. 50s doo-wop to punk to soundgarden to Beatles to Manson, it has it all. Yup and 70's hard rock with Nazareth.. It has Beatles on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprite Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Just now, Tom-Ass said: Yup and 70's hard rock with Nazareth.. It has Beatles on it? Just now, soon said: oh, cool. Never noticed that. the main riff was a clear lift of that to begin with so cool they made the reference. thanks! That's how I always heard t anyway. I thought it said something about daytripper in the booklet? But I haven't seen that in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Sprite said: That's how I always heard t anyway. I thought it said something about daytripper in the booklet? But I haven't seen that in years. yeah, he's definitely playing the riff differently as the track comes to an end. Just once. Sounds like day tripper to me. I haven't seen booklet in years either. Wish Id kept more of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Some of Matt's finest drumming and tone. I don't know where you're getting your "trying to replicate Steven" from. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98izzark Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, EvH said: Some of Matt's finest drumming and tone. I don't know where you're getting your "trying to replicate Steven" from. Because it sounds like Appetite, Down on the Farm is a prime example. Steven woulda make it sound much better. Edited June 29, 2017 by 98izzark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 totally coincidentally was listening to this today!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 39 minutes ago, EvH said: Some of Matt's finest drumming and tone. I don't know where you're getting your "trying to replicate Steven" from. Objectively, he sounds really good on that album and SFTD. Way better imho than UYI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98izzark Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, RONIN said: Objectively, he sounds really good on that album and SFTD. Way better imho than UYI. He does sound good, all I'm saying is Steven would of sounded better 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, RONIN said: Objectively, he sounds really good on that album and SFTD. Way better imho than UYI. True, if only the drums had been mixed that way on UYI... And totally agreed regarding Matt on SFTD. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicDwolfwood Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 Decent album to listen to once in a blue moon. yeah it lacks some punk attitude and is a bit too polished to be punk, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 55 minutes ago, 98izzark said: Because it sounds like Appetite, Down on the Farm is a prime example. Steven woulda make it sound much better. I doesn't sound even remotely similar to Appetite. More polished but still way drier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 They made hardrock out of the punk songs. Raw Power for example. In its original form it is a real dirty punk song. Axl and Duff couldn't immitate Iggy's rawness. Matt's drumming and Slash's leadguitar are way to precise. I love both versions. But it's exactly that. Stooges played a wild punk song while Guns did a accurate hardrock song. Both great. And that's the case with many other songs too on this record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RONIN Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 45 minutes ago, EvH said: I doesn't sound even remotely similar to Appetite. More polished but still way drier. I think what he might mean is that Steven is a more punk-y drummer compared to Matt who is more of a metal/hard rock guy. Since those were punk covers, Steven may have had the right loose and limber feel for them. Who knows. Edited June 29, 2017 by RONIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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