Ritz 1988 or Paris 1992 - Better Show?

[Crash Diet]

Watching Ritz 1988 show again fo the first time in a while, thought i'd do a poll on these two shows - generally perceived as the best/most favoured 'Classic GN'R' shows.

So - take your pick.

I go for Ritz 1988. Although Paris has more UYI tunes, I've always found myself preferring Ritz out of the two. A short, sharp and powerful show.

I don't dislike Paris, but i've never got the love for it as much as others. Steven Tyler and Joe Perry on Mama Kin is greatl, but the other guest performances never did much for me - probably would say otherwise had Jeff Beck actually managed to perform Locomotive.

I prefer Ritz 88, cause that is a real rock n' roll band

Paris was great, especially the Always on the run tune and Aerosmith, but overall too much shit going on... These days i rarely listen to the UYI circus band, sorry...

If Locomotive performed (regardless from Jeff Beck) i would vote Paris though

Edited September 2, 2014 by Crash Diet

[DieselDaisy]

This forum is full of Illusion loving Axl ballad pussys.

[bran]

paris, still have it on an old VHS somewhere

Edited September 2, 2014 by bran

[seely]

This forum is full of Illusion loving Axl ballad pussys.

Now now, those are excellent songs/records.

[Mr. Dude]

This forum is full of Illusion loving Axl ballad pussys.

I appreciate the AFD era shows, but I think it would've been dishonest to continue on as if they were still some punk band in touch with the streets. I like the Illusion era tour because the band is tighter and because of the massive spectacle. Illusion tour had a Stones vibe that I really dig.

[seely]

This forum is full of Illusion loving Axl ballad pussys.

I appreciate the AFD era shows, but I think it would've been dishonest to continue on as if they were still some punk band in touch with the streets. I like the Illusion era tour because the band is tighter and because of the massive spectacle. Illusion tour had a Stones vibe that I really dig.

This.

On the whole I prefer the UYI era. Bigger and better setlists, huge venues...The Paris gig just never impressed me as a recording of that tour. May have to dig it out again tonight though...

[Mr. Dude]

Watching Ritz 1988 show again fo the first time in a while, thought i'd do a poll on these two shows - generally perceived as the best/most favoured 'Classic GN'R' shows.

So - take your pick.

I go for Ritz 1988. Although Paris has more UYI tunes, I've always found myself preferring Ritz out of the two. A short, sharp and powerful show.

I don't dislike Paris, but i've never got the love for it as much as others. Steven Tyler and Joe Perry on Mama Kin is greatl, but the other guest performances never did much for me - probably would say otherwise had Jeff Beck actually managed to perform Locomotive.

I prefer Ritz 88, cause that is a real rock n' roll band

Paris was great, especially the Always on the run tune and Aerosmith, but overall too much shit going on... These days i rarely listen to the UYI circus band, sorry...

If Locomotive performed (regardless from Jeff Beck) i would vote Paris though

Overall you think there was too much shit going on?

Yet your favorite moments are the one's where the most shit is going on.

Go figure.

[Tom-Ass]

Ritz by far... This is the show that put Guns on the map...

Paris is good too but Axl's outfits were just too tough to watch by 1992....

[EvH]

Axl's amazing WTTJ intro in Paris...

[cspalding22]

Both shows are awesome, however the energy of the band from the Ritz was incredible. Stage could barely hold them. Axl stage diving, feet flying up in the air from the crowd, girl trying to get on stage, etc. Only bad part was RQ.

[Mr. Dude]

Ritz by far... This is the show that put Guns on the map...

Paris is good too but Axl's outfits were just too tough to watch by 1992....

I think his outfit(s) for Ritz 88 were worse

[Iron MikeyJ]

Just for shits, I decided to watch Paris 92' today. Holy fuck does this concert piss on AFDemocracy. I like AFD, but damn did they hit a groove on this night.

It's been a good year and half or so since I watched Paris 92', it really is a good night. I'd still take Ritz though.

Edited September 2, 2014 by Mike420

[DieselDaisy]

Pity Beck developed ear ache or we would have got a soundboard/pro-shot 'Locomotive.'

[Iron MikeyJ]

Pity Beck developed ear ache or we would have got a soundboard/pro-shot 'Locomotive.'

Agreed.

[DieselDaisy]

I have about 40 seconds of rehearsal footage of it - it is such a prick tease.

[Nosaj Thing]

Edited September 2, 2014 by Nosaj Thing

[DieselDaisy]

Never seen that. I just have a shorter extract of that which was part of an UK news report on the PPV.

[RandallFlagg]

Paris, the Ritz is a legendary show though, two different energies really but the same strange beast unfurled a little less angrily and more extravagantly.

[D-GenerationX]

I don't dislike Paris, but i've never got the love for it as much as others. Steven Tyler and Joe Perry on Mama Kin is greatl, but the other guest performances never did much for me - probably would say otherwise had Jeff Beck actually managed to perform Locomotive.

I'd go with Paris, but always felt the setlist was a song or two short. Should have played 'Locomotive' anyway.

[Crash Diet]

Watching Ritz 1988 show again fo the first time in a while, thought i'd do a poll on these two shows - generally perceived as the best/most favoured 'Classic GN'R' shows.

So - take your pick.

I go for Ritz 1988. Although Paris has more UYI tunes, I've always found myself preferring Ritz out of the two. A short, sharp and powerful show.

I don't dislike Paris, but i've never got the love for it as much as others. Steven Tyler and Joe Perry on Mama Kin is greatl, but the other guest performances never did much for me - probably would say otherwise had Jeff Beck actually managed to perform Locomotive.

I prefer Ritz 88, cause that is a real rock n' roll band

Paris was great, especially the Always on the run tune and Aerosmith, but overall too much shit going on... These days i rarely listen to the UYI circus band, sorry...

If Locomotive performed (regardless from Jeff Beck) i would vote Paris though

Overall you think there was too much shit going on?

Yet your favorite moments are the one's where the most shit is going on.

Go figure.

WUT

One of my fav is Locomotive and we don't even have a decent pro shot live performance. I mean shit is the horns two keyboards, etc. I don't hate those concerts just nowadays i get bored when i saw them

The UYI tour was really good when Izzy was stil with them (more songs, rotated setlist, crazy performances and renditions of the songs)

That's all

Go figure Dude

[Kill Your Hero]

There were many shows like the ritz, they just weren't televised. Overrated show.

[Gordon Comstock]

Melbourne 88 >>>> Ritz 88. The editing effects can be annoying and the quality isn't as good, but it's a way better show.

[Powerage5]

Paris was a better show, but The Ritz was more important/influential.

[bacardimayne]

What did the Ritz influence? Who is it important to apart from a bunch of nostalgic 40-somethings on YouTube clamoring for a reunion?

Edited September 3, 2014 by bacardimayne

[Mr. Dude]

I have about 40 seconds of rehearsal footage of it - it is such a prick tease.

I think there is like 7 or 8 min of him rehearsing it with Slash, Duff, and Matt somewhere on youtube. I may be a bit off on the length, but I'm sure its more than 40 seconds.