DieselDaisy Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: AAA research note: Ritchie Blackmore is perhaps the closest guitarist personality to the Axl vocalist. Can you imagine trying to manage a band with them in? Axl, Blackmore, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker - Gallaghers and Morrisey on backing vocals. Band of Cunts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, wasted said: Boris, Trump and Putin could start WW3. It’s my simulation and I’ll die if I want to. I want to experience a nuke war. It’s on my bucket list. I experienced one last night, watching Warbirds: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1047544/ It's a pretty good TV movie. It only scores 3.3 on IMDB; bit of rhyming 33-DB beat poetry (Kerouac was my hero!); continued with poetry; but I'd give it 7.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Axl, Blackmore, Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker - Gallaghers and Morrisey on backing vocals. Band of Cunts. BOC: Blue Oyster Cult? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 35 minutes ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: I experienced one last night, watching Warbirds: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1047544/ It's a pretty good TV movie. It only scores 3.3 on IMDB; bit of rhyming 33-DB beat poetry (Kerouac was my hero!); continued with poetry; but I'd give it 7.5. I check it out. I need to be ready. David Carradine reading On the Road as the mushroom cloud blooms. Once in a lifetime. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 48 minutes ago, wasted said: I check it out. I need to be ready. David Carradine reading On the Road as the mushroom cloud blooms. Once in a lifetime. Grasshopper, how is it you don't remember the pterodactyls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: Grasshopper, how is it you don't remember the pterodactyls? The Grasshopper Lies Heavy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 19/11/2018 at 12:27 PM, wasted said: The Grasshopper Lies Heavy To remember the pterodactyls, watching Warbirds is not enough. To remember the pterodactyls, you must be the pterodactyls. Then, and only then, will you be the grasshopper who remembers pterodactyls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: To remember the pterodactyls, watching Warbirds is not enough. To remember the pterodactyls, you must be the pterodactyls. Then, and only then, will you be the grasshopper who remembers pterodactyls. This is a old series I don’t know the reference. I feel empathy for dinosaurs, one day humans will be extinct. No one will know my posts. I feel sorry for them. I pity the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, wasted said: This is a old series I don’t know the reference. I feel empathy for dinosaurs, one day humans will be extinct. No one will know my posts. I feel sorry for them. I pity the future. In the future this age will be known as the wasted years. I will remember them well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: In the future this age will be known as the wasted years. I will remember them well. When I get back to the future I’ll tell them we messed it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 This draft is a dog's dinner, an invitation for being rogered up the arse by the EU. I hope the Tory rebels, DUP and Labour hard-left chuck the thing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Parliament will let through to avoid no deal? basically it’ll be the same as it ever wuz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, wasted said: Parliament will let through to avoid no deal? basically it’ll be the same as it ever wuz. I don't believe that it will. Remove the DUP's 10 moaning about the open border and remove about 40 hardline Tory Euroskeptics and a few stray Tory ''Euro loonies'' like Ken Clarke and you are probably left with about 260 maximum. She needs 320 as Sinn Fein don't participate. She'll be forced to rely on the opposition. Blairy Labour (e.g., Chuka Umana) hate the prospect of leaving the EU to such an extent that they'll vote against any divorce, insisting on a ''people's vote'' (whatever that is?) - similarly the Lib Dems, SNP and Caroline Lucas who combined are basically a 48 strong Europhile voting block. The hard-left, the Bennites conversely will vote against it because they hate the EU and this is basically a ''Brexit in a (EU) straight jacket''. Edited November 23, 2018 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: I don't believe that it will. Remove the DUP's 10 moaning about the open border and remove about 40 hardline Tory Euroskeptics and a few stray Tory ''Euro loonies'' like Ken Clarke and you are probably left with about 260 maximum. She needs 320 as Sinn Fein don't participate. She'll be forced to rely on the opposition. Blairy Labour (e.g., Chuka Umana) hate the prospect of leaving the EU to such an extent that they'll vote against any divorce, insisting on a ''people's vote'' (whatever that is?) - similarly the Lib Dems, SNP and Caroline Lucas who combined are basically a 48 strong Europhile voting block. The hard-left, the Bennites conversely will vote against it because they hate the EU and this is basically a ''Brexit in a (EU) straight jacket''. So a No deal or postponed the games because of snow. Then a people’s vote sounds like another referendum? Can they not get a basic deal through then work out details later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 8 hours ago, wasted said: Then a people’s vote sounds like another referendum? It is. Nobody voted for a Norway kind of deal. The referendum was about Leave or Remain. Let people vote on this third way that wasn't available the first time around. This new referendum should be Leave, Remain, Just free trade agreement with EU. It has to look more or less like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Why is it called a ''people's vote'' though? Referenda are inherently ''people's vote'' anyhow seeing as they entail the entire electorate excising a direct vote. Is it claiming that the 2016 referendum, 33,577,342 participating, was not a ''people's vote''? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Won’t free trade vote just take votes away from Leave, Remain will win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Why is it called a ''people's vote'' though? Referenda are inherently ''people's vote'' anyhow seeing as they entail the entire electorate excising a direct vote. Is it claiming that the 2016 referendum, 33,577,342 participating, was not a ''people's vote''? It is the same thing with different name. Eventually if it done I guess the official name will be referendum on the deal or something like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, wasted said: Won’t free trade vote just take votes away from Leave, Remain will win? I don't have a crystal ball. I have no way of knowing what people are going to end up deciding. Leave it to the media to do a few polls. It is probably the only way to have an idea about what people want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 43 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Why is it called a ''people's vote'' though? Referenda are inherently ''people's vote'' anyhow seeing as they entail the entire electorate excising a direct vote. Is it claiming that the 2016 referendum, 33,577,342 participating, was not a ''people's vote''? Is it the people who want to stay who call it the people's vote? It's obviously meant to sound as if the people haven't voted already and this was all done behind the people's back. The way it sounds now is as if now finally let's hear what the people think about it! The high and mighty have had their referendum, now the average Joe will have the people's vote. At least that's how it sounds to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 10 minutes ago, Padme said: It is the same thing with different name. Eventually if it done I guess the official name will be referendum on the deal or something like it It is political rhetoric. A second referendum would of course be obscene. What if they don't get the vote they want? Will they demand a third, a fourth, a... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Padme said: I don't have a crystal ball. I have no way of knowing what people are going to end up deciding. Leave it to the media to do a few polls. It is probably the only way to have an idea about what people want. I think it will actually go through parliament. There’s all this talk but things just keep going forward getting more diluted as it goes. It will go through be delayed and have some undecided sections. My crystal ball is well polished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 17 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: It is political rhetoric. A second referendum would of course be obscene. What if they don't get the vote they want? Will they demand a third, a fourth, a... But there has to be another referendum. Nobody voted for this deal in 2016. Unless this deal is rejected in the Parliament. If this is the case then I don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, Padme said: But there has to be another referendum. Nobody voted for this deal in 2016. Unless this deal is rejected in the Parliament. If this is the case then I don't know I disagree. Nobody voted for the millions of other legislation that has passed through Parliament either. The United Kingdom is not and never has been a direct plebiscitary democracy. But we did have one in 2016, so let's say we do have a second referendum? One thing is certain: the United Kingdom must leave the EU. It doesn't matter if it is Norway, Chequers, Canada, no deal/WTO rules, the UK must leave in order to honour the referendum of 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said: I disagree. Nobody voted for the millions of other legislation that has passed through Parliament either. The United Kingdom is not and never has been a direct plebiscitary democracy. But we did have one in 2016, so let's say we do have a second referendum? One thing is certain: the United Kingdom must leave the EU. It doesn't matter if it is Norway, Chequers, Canada, no deal/WTO rules, the UK must leave in order to honour the referendum of 2016. But this deal doesn't honour the Referendum for neither side. When you say the UK must leave. This deal is not really a Leave. Norway kind of deal is half way Leave and Remain And people voted back in the 70s over membership in the EEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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