wasted Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: I grew too bored of it ages ago, like some films I fast forward to the end. Can't do that with Brexit, but not taking any interest, and just waiting for it to end! What will be will be, and it probably won't matter that much to you and me!! My mind is a apocalypsogindrinkinohlips so anything is probably better than my liver cirrosis fate. They don’t talk about dicktubes in brexit so I can’t relate. I suppose a socialist state might give me cheap booze and dicktubes so... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 The Austrians have now broken ranks with the EU on migration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, wasted said: My mind is a apocalypsogindrinkinohlips so anything is probably better than my liver cirrosis fate. They don’t talk about dicktubes in brexit so I can’t relate. I suppose a socialist state might give me cheap booze and dicktubes so... Not in the gulags! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: Not in the gulags! I’m sure I could sell them some gu and lags. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: The Austrians have now broken ranks with the EU on migration. Any country member of the EU can do whatever they want about immigration. That has always been the case. Italy has been sending people elsewhere recently. Immigrants don't arrive in Austria. They arrive in Italy, Spain or Greece. Then they move around. They only way the EU can stop the arrivals is by sending money to corrupt leaders all over Africa and the Middle East Edited November 1, 2018 by Padme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, wasted said: I’m sure I could sell them some gu and lags. Maybe do some anagram science, cooking up glu and gas; both would probably fetch a hefty price in the gulags: to keep people warm, as they'll probably be located on remote northern Scottish rocks n' rigs; the closest they'll get to rock n' roll! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Padme said: Any country member of the EU can do whatever they want about immigration. That has always been the case. Italy has been sending people elsewhere recently. Immigrants don't arrive in Austria. They arrive in Italy, Spain or Greece. Then they move around. They only way the EU can stop the arrivals is by sending money to corrupt leaders all over Africa and the Middle East Nope. The EU are annoyed with Austria (and Hungary) who are withdrawing from the UN Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration Pact, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/01/austria-criticised-not-signing-un-global-migration-compact-european-commission https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1039345/eu-migrant-crisis-austria-un-migration-pact-sebastian-kurz-jean-claude-juncker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Nope. The EU are annoyed with Austria (and Hungary) who are withdrawing from the UN Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration Pact, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/01/austria-criticised-not-signing-un-global-migration-compact-european-commission https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1039345/eu-migrant-crisis-austria-un-migration-pact-sebastian-kurz-jean-claude-juncker They can be criticised. The EU can be annoyed. But if they don't want to sign a document. They won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: Maybe do some anagram science, cooking up glu and gas; both would probably fetch a hefty price in the gulags: to keep people warm, as they'll probably be located on remote northern Scottish rocks n' rigs; the closest they'll get to rock n' roll! The Isle of Jury Whiskey Prison. Stag hunting in peat fields. Package tour. This is reality tv in communist Britain. Inmates will have to drink whisky and hunt stags without food for 2 weeks. Then they are executed. Simon Cowell then criticizes them heavily. Edited November 1, 2018 by wasted 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I was ahead of the game again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 On 01/11/2018 at 1:22 PM, wasted said: The Isle of Jury Whiskey Prison. Stag hunting in peat fields. Package tour. This is reality tv in communist Britain. Inmates will have to drink whisky and hunt stags without food for 2 weeks. Then they are executed. Simon Cowell then criticizes them heavily. Yes, Cowell will have been 're-educated', and be in the middle of the judging panel with fellow re-educated capitalist bad boy Philip Green. Corbyn and Abbott will be either side, looking smugger than ever, in their 'I'm rich but hide it better, holier than thou way!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: Yes, Cowell will have been 're-educated', and be in the middle of the judging panel with fellow re-educated capitalist bad boy Philip Green. Corbyn and Abbott will be either side, looking smugger than ever, in their 'I'm rich but hide it better, holier than thou way!' In my augmented reality there will be a hunt and kill simon cowell game on Nintendo. Mario will have a hat made out of Spice Girls albums. There will also be a Nic Cage blended whisky on sale in vending machines outside my motel room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl's Agony Aunt Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, wasted said: In my augmented reality there will be a hunt and kill simon cowell game on Nintendo. Mario will have a hat made out of Spice Girls albums. There will also be a Nic Cage blended whisky on sale in vending machines outside my motel room. Sounds a winner, especially the Mario hat; make your fortune before launching the revolution, so you'll be one of the 'comfortable equals'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, Axl's Agony Aunt said: Sounds a winner, especially the Mario hat; make your fortune before launching the revolution, so you'll be one of the 'comfortable equals'! Ain’t nuttin but pimpin these daze G. Don’t stop just keep rollin’ down hill. Keep blowin’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) How about a compromise to break the Brexit deadlock? A Northern Ireland only referendum that asks United Ireland or Brexit? I was born in a unionist area, but I might for vote a United Ireland over having to deal with the Tories again. The reality is there'll be riots and fighting here anyway once a wall goes up. I'm 30 years old, I'm still old enough to remember regular sectarian violence and bombings. It wasn't exactly generations ago. For anyone that thinks that a no wall outcome is realistic currently, ask why the Tories want a time limit on the backstop. Ask if you really believe right wing English voters and tabloids would be okay with the idea that anyone could fly to Dublin, get on a train to Belfast then get a ferry to Scotland or England without having their passport checked. They'd be in melt down with even more illegal immigration stories every other day and pretty soon a Tory would be campaigning for office to "build that wall". Edited November 6, 2018 by AtariLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) The average Englishman doesn't understand the complexity of Ireland and doesn't give two shits about Ireland. It has been that way since the Tudor plantations and is as true today as ever. ''Ireland? Full of bombs innit? Father Ted, bombs and Guinness?''. Edited November 6, 2018 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 05/11/2018 at 7:14 PM, Axl's Agony Aunt said: Sounds a winner, especially the Mario hat; make your fortune before launching the revolution, so you'll be one of the 'comfortable equals'! First I need to beat Bioshock Infinite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 10 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: The average Englishman doesn't understand the complexity of Ireland and doesn't give two shits about Ireland. It has been that way since the Tudor plantations and is as true today as ever. ''Ireland? Full of bombs innit? Father Ted, bombs and Guinness?''. Just like we don’t give two shits about all the despicable things The Empire did. We just marvel at how well we did for such a tiny island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Just now, MillionsOfSpiders said: Just like we don’t give two shits about all the despicable things The Empire did. We just marvel at how well we did for such a tiny island Well the Empire didn't co-opt the British working classes in any meaningful way except sending them off for soldiery. There were attempts to drum up support to at least the lower middle classes such as in boy's own adventure novels and through the creation of the boy scouts, etc., but the sad reality was that Britain owned an Empire that was completely disassociated from the metropolitan core's working classes who were suffering terribly and not gaining in any way from the possession of that empire (paradoxically, the empire co-opted indigenous elites, awarding them an Oxbridge educations and careers in the Indian Civil Service for instance!). It is like reading two coterminous histories, reading about the history of the British working classes and the history of the British empire. On the one hand you have disenfranchisement, Peterloo, ''the workhouses'', on the other you have Gordon of Khartoum, Napier, Rourke's Drift - ''imperial pomp and circumstances''. The working classes did have all their terraced streets named after imperial heroes and battles I suppose, ''Wellington Street, Waterloo Road'' etc. (whilst the namesake lived it superior accommodation than they did - and still do). This was why its post-war unraveling registered barely a footnote. The British were fairly good empire builders in fact, and fairly benign compared to most empires, but they pale compared to Romans; Rome turned indigenous people hostile to Rome into Romans; within a few generations they too could be Emperor; Severus was an African (and quite possibly black); Trajan and Hadrian were of Spanish descent. If the Romans ran the British Empire, Gandhi wouldn't have opposed the empire but would have become its Prime Minister! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 I was listening to This Sceptred Isle on the BBC and it was saying the empire came about by chance after the development of trade routes around the world. It wasn’t an evil plan to take over the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, wasted said: I was listening to This Sceptred Isle on the BBC and it was saying the empire came about by chance after the development of trade routes around the world. It wasn’t an evil plan to take over the world. ''We seem to have conquered the world in a state of absent-mindness''. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, wasted said: I was listening to This Sceptred Isle on the BBC and it was saying the empire came about by chance after the development of trade routes around the world. It wasn’t an evil plan to take over the world. More or less its all an evil plan to take over the world, isn't it? Not speaking here about the Empire but rather politics in general, wargames etc etc. The governing motivation is power isn't it and taken to the nth degree it results in taking over, any country would do it given the chance. How do you get the BEST economy and the strongest government? By having the strongest international controlling interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 23 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: ''We seem to have conquered the world in a state of absent-mindness''. There wasn’t much to conquer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: More or less its all an evil plan to take over the world, isn't it? Not speaking here about the Empire but rather politics in general, wargames etc etc. The governing motivation is power isn't it and taken to the nth degree it results in taking over, any country would do it given the chance. How do you get the BEST economy and the strongest government? By having the strongest international controlling interest. I guess but the idea wasn’t to take by force or do bad things. It was trade routes. In the same way China success is built on making things to sell the rest of the world. It’s not stampeding across into countries smashing everything to pieces. If the trade routes weren’t possible then it wouldn’t happen. It wasn’t state controlled trade either, it all grew organically. Edited November 7, 2018 by wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) Also much of the empire building was enacted by individuals (generals, governors, explorers, settlers) acting independently, the government receiving a fait accompli. Edited November 8, 2018 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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