DieselDaisy Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Zeppelin just rip-off Howlin' Wolf and Robert Johnson and stick some elves in there and claim some artsy fartsyness. Stodgy heavy metal desecration of the blues with poodle haired screeching and clanky drumming. Awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gibson_Guy87 said: Zeppelin. I like some diversity in my music. That's the thing, they went down so many roads. The great thing is they turned me onto some pretty eclectic forms of music in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Dog Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Zeppelin just rip-off Howlin' Wolf and Robert Johnson and stick some elves in there and claim some artsy fartsyness. Stodgy heavy metal desecration of the blues with poodle haired screeching and clanky drumming. Awful. Boring would be a good description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) Neither, if I’m being totally honest, but Zeppelin if I have to choose. Edited January 12, 2018 by The Real McCoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverburst80 Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Black Sabbath pretty comfortably, Led Zep are a great band though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 They're both fucking great, as are Deep Purple. Sabbath were far more influential though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 2 hours ago, bucketfoot said: They're both fucking great, as are Deep Purple. Sabbath were far more influential though. Are they? Cause there are literally 0 guitarists out there that don't have Jimmy Page as their top 3 influences or drummers and Bonham. I mean, they influenced totally different things but don't think one is more influential than the other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Nicklord said: Are they? Cause there are literally 0 guitarists out there that don't have Jimmy Page as their top 3 influences or drummers and Bonham. I mean, they influenced totally different things but don't think one is more influential than the other Well they basically created an entirely new style of music in Heavy Metal, which has evolved into many, many sub-genres, it all leads back to Sabbath. As much as I love Led Zep and can't separate them in terms of preference, I wouldn't say they changed the musical landscape the way Sabbath did. Yeah, of course Jimmy Page is a massive influence on guitarists, but I'd argue that there will be plenty around who would say Tony Iommi is just as big an influence. You can make the argument that there are a few bands who predate Sabbath as Metal's year zero, bands that were doing a similar kind of thing around that time, I've always liked the idea that The Kinks started it off as far back as the mid 60's in terms of the rawness of their guitar riffs, but when it comes to overall sound/tone, lyrics, image and general fucking heaviness, it was definitely Sabbath. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Id say both bands are widely influential but Zeppelin moreso. By a great deal, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Jaro- Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Sabbath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Sabbath all day long. More Original for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 1:23 PM, Nicklord said: Are they? Cause there are literally 0 guitarists out there that don't have Jimmy Page as their top 3 influences or drummers and Bonham. I mean, they influenced totally different things but don't think one is more influential than the other I play guitar and while i respect Jimmy Page, I'll take Iommi over him any day, Bill Ward i prefer over Bonham also. (I recognize its sacrilege to think Bonham was shit, but to me he's a bit lumbering and plodding) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I do not like Bonham in the slightest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Bonzo! Please forgive them. ozzy idolized zeppelin, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenYou'reTalkinToYourself Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I used to like Zeppelin, but not so much anymore... On the other hand, even though I hate heavy metal, Sabbath is an exception. I'll take Iommi over Jimmy Page as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 5 hours ago, HOOSIER GUNZ said: ozzy idolized zeppelin, right? Err.... no. Not to my knowledge anyway. The only idolizing I've seen him do is over John Lennon/The Beatles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I thought i recall him saying how heavy they were and that was who he wished to be like, maybe I got my wires crossed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, HOOSIER GUNZ said: I thought i recall him saying how heavy they were and that was who he wished to be like, maybe I got my wires crossed... You could be right, I'm pretty sure he likes Led Zep but I've only really read/seen him speak of John Lennon as his idol, numerous times as well. Edited January 18, 2018 by bucketfoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 23 hours ago, bucketfoot said: You could be right, I'm pretty sure he likes Led Zep but I've only really read/seen him speak of John Lennon as his idol, numerous times as well. I have an interview with him from the 90s where he lists the first two LZ albums in his top ten 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) On 1/19/2018 at 9:57 PM, DR DOOM said: I have an interview with him from the 90s where he lists the first two LZ albums in his top ten Cheers mate, I haven't seen that. He did name Led Zeppelin IV in a recent 'Best Metal Albums' thing he did, so he definitely seems to be a fan, which isn't really surprising. I'm sure I've read something before about the two bands jamming in the studio at some point as well, Bonzo was apparently good friends with the Sabs and Iommi in particular. Edited January 20, 2018 by bucketfoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, bucketfoot said: Cheers mate, I haven't seen that. He did name Led Zeppelin IV in a recent 'Best Metal Albums' thing he did, so he definitely seems to be a fan, which isn't really surprising. I'm sure I've read something before about the two bands jamming in the studio at some point as well, Bonzo was apparently good friends with the Sabs and Iommi in particular. Iommi was best man at Bonzo's wedding. I think there are some tales of the two bands in the (definitive) How Black Was Our Sabbath? book by two of Sabbath's roadies. Ozzy does change his tune/mind/story a lot but yeah....undoubtedly a fan of LZ. Oz also sang on that Gary Moore song "Led Clones" which was a stab at all the rip offs...Coverdale/Whitesnake with Still Of The Night in particular! Edited January 21, 2018 by DR DOOM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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