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Just now, DTJ80 said:

@zombux - I was literally just about to ask you about your list!! So that now reads 3 of the 10 - where did the confirmation of the 10 pieces come from?

I don't remember, it must have been some old interview with Duff about Izzy (?), maybe @SoulMonster will be the right guy to ask.

and damn, demos with Steve Stevens and Billy Idol - that must be the original "Neurotic Boy Outsiders" demos, before the lineup changed to the "classic Neurotic Outsiders" lineup. fuck.

oh well. I guess these tapes are as lost as Beautiful Disease (yeah, I know that it eventually got out as a promo copy, but still - it's not an official release).

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3 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Here are two quotes from Izzy (I haven't been able to find the full interviews they're from *):

I can't recall right now if Duff has ever talked about those demos in 1995.

From the Izzy quotes it seems that Axl hadn't kept the demos at the time and Izzy had taken them, so in 2000-01 Axl phoned him asking for the tape, and finally Axl kept two songs from it. It also makes sense that there was a copy of the demos made for Duff.

I agree with everybody who said that most likely these tapes in the storage space have to do with Duff and sessions he did with Izzy and other musicians over the years. To me it's almost obvious, but I guess the fans have some kind of PTSD from TB and see them everywhere :lol:

 

 

Yes @Blackstar, this is the exact interview i was talking about, thanks for finding it!

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So yes now I am very convinced that the Duff & Izzy labels on those tapes HAVE to be the "ten demos" Duff and Izzy wrote for GNR in 1995

and I am also convinced that these are great songs that have GN'R HOLY GRAIL written all over them if you ask me!

 

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Izzy: In April, 1995, Duff calls me again: "I'm trying to compose new songs for the guys in GN'R. Come and give me a hand." [...] I'd left Guns but I said to myself: 'Well shit, after all, why not?' Duff and I wrote ten pieces in the space of a week. We even recorded them as demos.


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Izzy: In '95, Duff and me recorded songs for the band [GN'R]. We made a tape that went nowhere. Then, a couple of months ago I have a message on my answering machine: 'Yo! It's Axl, I need a copy of the songs that you did.' There was one called 'Down by the Ocean' or 'Down by the Sea', they may have used it.

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6 minutes ago, zombux said:

I don't remember, it must have been some old interview with Duff about Izzy (?), maybe @SoulMonster will be the right guy to ask.

and damn, demos with Steve Stevens and Billy Idol - that must be the original "Neurotic Boy Outsiders" demos, before the lineup changed to the "classic Neurotic Outsiders" lineup. fuck.

oh well. I guess these tapes are as lost as Beautiful Disease (yeah, I know that it eventually got out as a promo copy, but still - it's not an official release).

Cheers. Yeah - to think all this stuff has been in storage just boggles the brain. Pretty sure it’s Duffs stuff so let’s just hope it all sees the light of day. 👍

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4 minutes ago, ludurigan said:

 

Yes @Blackstar, this is the exact interview i was talking about, thanks for finding it!

:headbang:

So yes now I am very convinced that the Duff & Izzy labels on those tapes HAVE to be the "ten demos" Duff and Izzy wrote for GNR in 1995

and I am also convinced that these are great songs that have GN'R HOLY GRAIL written all over them if you ask me!

 


Popular Magazine 2001 wrote:
 

 

Cheers for posting this - now I know where the confirmation of the 10 songs came from!

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On 05/01/2019 at 11:40 PM, Propaganda said:

I would love to listen to those recordings from Aerosmith! The band at their best!

tried to send you the links via PM but says "Propaganda cannot receive messages" so i reckon either your box is full, or you blocked messages from me (or from anyone) or something is wrong with the site

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2 minutes ago, gnr5 said:

What did i miss??

Someone posted photos of some possibly gnr related stuff that recently got given back to the original owner, who we are currently speculating is Duff. 

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7 minutes ago, Jw224 said:

Someone posted photos of some possibly gnr related stuff that recently got given back to the original owner, who we are currently speculating is Duff. 

Thanks! Is the photo anywhere?

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1 hour ago, ludurigan said:

tried to send you the links via PM but says "Propaganda cannot receive messages" so i reckon either your box is full, or you blocked messages from me (or from anyone) or something is wrong with the site

It's probably full, let me check! 

EDIT: done!

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7 minutes ago, Propaganda said:

It's probably full, let me check! 

EDIT: done!

sent!

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58 minutes ago, gnr5 said:

Thanks! Is the photo anywhere?

2a9zbqr.jpg

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23 minutes ago, lame ass security said:

I thought I knew quite a bit about Guns but some people on here have forgotten more than I know.😄  The knowledge on here is pretty amazing.

...and @SoulMonster and @Blackstar have basically created a free-for-all "GNR Learning Center" that you can go to anytime you please!

http://www.a-4-d.com/f19-gn-r-interview-and-articles-archive

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2 hours ago, Italian girl said:

so in 1995 Izzy started  writing  music for Gnr again??

I'm not really sure if exactly *for GNR* but he was definitely writing with Duff.

(remember Duff was featured on most Izzy solo albums, and definitely on all of them in the 90's)

from wiki: 
In 1995, Stradlin began recording material for his second solo album, 117°.[6] Released in March 1998, the album was recorded in fits and starts over a period of two years and featured his former band mates Duff McKagan and Rick Richards

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17 hours ago, zombux said:

I'm not really sure if exactly *for GNR* but he was definitely writing with Duff.

(remember Duff was featured on most Izzy solo albums, and definitely on all of them in the 90's)

from wiki: 
In 1995, Stradlin began recording material for his second solo album, 117°.[6] Released in March 1998, the album was recorded in fits and starts over a period of two years and featured his former band mates Duff McKagan and Rick Richards

 

20 hours ago, Italian girl said:

so in 1995 Izzy started  writing  music for Gnr again??

 

those izzy and duff quotes make it quite clear that they wrote the songs specifically for GNR/AXL, right?

 

Izzy: In April, 1995, Duff calls me again: "I'm trying to compose new songs for the guys in GN'R. Come and give me a hand." [...] I'd left Guns but I said to myself: 'Well shit, after all, why not?' Duff and I wrote ten pieces in the space of a week. We even recorded them as demos.

 

Izzy: In '95, Duff and me recorded songs for the band [GN'R]. We made a tape that went nowhere. Then, a couple of months ago I have a message on my answering machine: 'Yo! It's Axl, I need a copy of the songs that you did.' There was one called 'Down by the Ocean' or 'Down by the Sea', they may have used it.

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good. so that means Izzy and Duff were in 1995 writing both for GNR and Izzy solo album, correct?

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On 09/01/2019 at 4:15 AM, zombux said:

good. so that means Izzy and Duff were in 1995 writing both for GNR and Izzy solo album, correct?

probably yes

@sidman69 brand new podcast has some great info about izzy jamming on studio with slash and duff and taz

this guy dave dominguez was around when they (izzy and slash) jammed with taz, apparently for izzy's album but he seems to be very confused on dates

starts on the 9-10 minutes mark

http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/221904-our-interview-with-dave-dominguez-chinese-democracy-afd-re-recording-live-era-engineer/

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